Author Topic: the Official Campaign Team  (Read 15117 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Hartley

  • Guest
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2012, 01:44:PM »
How long after the close date (if it is not extended further) do you anticipate the CCRC responding with their decision?

I'm not sure what NGB would say, but I would anticipate a decision around early to mid March depending on the contents of what has been resubmitted.

Newbury1

  • Guest
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2012, 01:55:PM »
Just a little mood lightener  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

Jackiepreece

  • Guest
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2012, 02:00:PM »
Nick you were spot on with the campaign team I mean admin comment


They have had so much help on offer and they have thrown most of it away and without my help wouldn't even have simon

They are a very distasteful bunch of people playing with someone's life

Perhaps they like him being kept in prison and having control of him


I will never get my head around their behaviour

Jackiepreece

  • Guest
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2012, 02:01:PM »
Keira could run that. Campaign standing on her head
Wasted opportunities

Offline ngb1066

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6671
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2012, 02:05:PM »
Emotions are no doubt running high, especially with latest extended period end looming.

I feel there is a little jockeying for position going on here should the eventual outcome be favourable to JB and his team of adm.. - I mean supporters!! ;)  ;D

ngb, are you still confident the defense team will have had enough time to have prepared a strong enough case by this close date (31 Jan 12)?
How long after the close date (if it is not extended further) do you anticipate the CCRC responding with their decision?
I would love to know what induced Mckay to enter the fray so late in day - I assume it must be something significant - or his name will be mud like the previous JB lawyers.

If the CCRC decline this latest appeal will Mckay continue with the cause?

Nick - I will answer your questions as well as I can:

Jeremy tried to call me at the weekend to wish me a happy new year and to give me an update. Unfortunately I was not able to take the call but he left a voicemail message.  He said that the work to prepare the final submissions is going well and the submissions will be made by the deadline of the end of this month.  He also said that the ECHR decision on his whole life tariff is expected on 17th January.

I anticipate that the CCRC will take several weeks to review the final submissions.  My guess is that a decision is likely at the end of March at the earliest, and more likely in April.  It is possible that the submissions will include renewed requests for the CCRC to obtain additional evidence using their section 17 CAA powers. If so it is possible that there will be a further delay for scientific examination to be carried out, and further supplementary submissions made.  I emphasise that this is just my own view and is not based upon anything I have been told by Jeremy.

Simon McKay became involved as a result of Jackie's twitter campaign.  As I understand it he started following Jackie on twitter and expressed an interest in the case.  Jackie passed this on to the campaign team and also told Jeremy.  I know Jeremy was considering the question of his legal representation because he discussed it with me.  Eventually a visit was arranged and Simon spent a long time with Jeremy discussing the case.  Following this meeting Simon offered to take on the case and Jeremy, after very careful consideration, decided to instruct him.  This was a major decision for Jeremy in view of the limited time available but in my view (without going into the discussions I had with Jeremy about this) he made a sound decision for the right reasons.  I do not know Simon McKay and have never spoken to him but from what he has said via twitter I understand that he has taken on the case (it is significant that he takes on very few cases and is therefore able to be selective) because he believes Jeremy to be the victim of a miscarriage of Justice.  I know that Simon gave Jeremy a commitment about the resources he would put into the case (bear in mind he is acting pro bono) and Jeremy has been very pleased that Simon has done what he said he would.

Jeremy remains confident that the case will be referred to the Court of Appeal and that he will succeed in an appeal against his convictions.  If the CCRC's final decision is not to refer the case to the Court of Appeal the campaign on behalf of Jeremy will continue.  Obviously I am not able to speak on behalf of Simon McKay but I anticipate that he would continue to support Jeremy.

       



Jackiepreece

  • Guest
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2012, 02:32:PM »
Ngb
There was a little mistake there.
When I got Simon interested I tried to pass it on to the campaign team as I knew how important a contact this was but they were not interested and asked me to deal with it. I was involved right up until Jeremy made the decision to instruct Simon. I even had to give Simon Jeremys prison number so Simon could write to Jeremy. Simon kept me informed the whole way and even told me the day of his visit with Jeremy.

At one time when Simon wanted to visit Jeremy it appeared the campaign team were trying to put Simon off saying he would have to wait 3 months to visit Jeremy in prison

Simon easily got around that

Nobody else apart from me was interested in getting involved probably because they didn't think it would come off

Offline ngb1066

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6671
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2012, 02:33:PM »
Ngb
There was a little mistake there.
When I got Simon interested I tried to pass it on to the campaign team as I knew how important a contact this was but they were not interested and asked me to deal with it. I was involved right up until Jeremy made the decision to instruct Simon. I even had to give Simon Jeremys prison number so Simon could write to Jeremy. Simon kept me informed the whole way and even told me the day of his visit with Jeremy.

At one time when Simon wanted to visit Jeremy it appeared the campaign team were trying to put Simon off saying he would have to wait 3 months to visit Jeremy in prison

Simon easily got around that

Nobody else apart from me was interested in getting involved probably because they didn't think it would come off

Jackie - thank you for clarifying that. 


Offline grahameb

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 11830
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2012, 02:34:PM »
To be fair Grahame, change that around a bit and make the relatives the subject of the hatred and you get to see that it's all about perspectives.

No, none my comments were a hollow swipe at anything, if an official campaign team is put together then it can be controlled to a certain degree, certainly a better degree than it currently is.

What it appears to me is, yet again, your comments are a hollow swipe at me, you just can't control yourself.  ???
My comments still stand and if you had an ounce of reason you would see the wisdom of them.

Hartley

  • Guest
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2012, 02:36:PM »
My comments still stand and if you had an ounce of reason you would see the wisdom of them.

I'm sorry Grahame but you've lost me completely with your inane ramblings. One thing that I would most certainly not associate with you, is wisdom.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2012, 02:42:PM by Hartley »

Offline grahameb

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 11830
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2012, 02:37:PM »
Emotions are no doubt running high, especially with latest extended period end looming.

I feel there is a little jockeying for position going on here should the eventual outcome be favourable to JB and his team of adm.. - I mean supporters!! ;)  ;D


No one that I know is jockeying for any position. We are just disgusted that the relative authorities are dragging this thing out so long. They are the incompetents who need to be ordered.

Offline grahameb

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 11830
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2012, 02:40:PM »
Ngb
There was a little mistake there.
When I got Simon interested I tried to pass it on to the campaign team as I knew how important a contact this was but they were not interested and asked me to deal with it. I was involved right up until Jeremy made the decision to instruct Simon. I even had to give Simon Jeremys prison number so Simon could write to Jeremy. Simon kept me informed the whole way and even told me the day of his visit with Jeremy.

At one time when Simon wanted to visit Jeremy it appeared the campaign team were trying to put Simon off saying he would have to wait 3 months to visit Jeremy in prison

Simon easily got around that

Nobody else apart from me was interested in getting involved probably because they didn't think it would come off
Who told Simon that he would have to wait 3 months? The prison authorities?

Offline grahameb

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 11830
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2012, 02:42:PM »
I'm Grahame but you've lost me completely with your inane ramblings. One thing that I would most certainly not associate with you, is wisdom.
Well obviously your intellect cannot cannot contain but simple sentences. Although I admit I am not a wise person. But the words that I wrote were wise words.

Offline ngb1066

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6671
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2012, 02:43:PM »
Who told Simon that he would have to wait 3 months? The prison authorities?

No, apparently the campaign team.  In fairness it can take a while to secure approval to visit a Cat A prisoner as checks are made by the prison authorities.  However a legal visit is far easier to arrange and this fell into that category.


Hartley

  • Guest
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2012, 02:44:PM »
Well obviously your intellect cannot cannot contain but simple sentences. Although I admit I am not a wise person. But the words that I wrote were wise words.

What is quite strange here is that the forum is being disrupted by a moderator, I'm not really sure I can advise you as to a possible solution for that one. Perhaps you could pick NGB's brains, he may have some ideas.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2012, 02:44:PM by Hartley »

Hartley

  • Guest
Re: the Official Campaign Team
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2012, 02:45:PM »
No, apparently the campaign team.  In fairness it can take a while to secure approval to visit a Cat A prisoner as checks are made by the prison authorities.  However a legal visit is far easier to arrange and this fell into that category.

Possibly taken out of context then, a simple misunderstanding?
« Last Edit: January 05, 2012, 02:47:PM by Hartley »