This is one of the secrets Essex police did not want anyone to find out about...

[bb2010]

Great job, thanks for that. That's what this forum needs more of.

[Pete0001]

This is my take... happily concede to be wrong if someone thinks I've circled incorrectly...

I've cropped the body out as its hosted on a public image site and i dont want to distress anyone.

Great job, thanks for that. That's what this forum needs more of.

I do want to make clear I'm not trying to disprove anything anyone is saying... but also that if I can't understand or initially agree with what is being presented I will look at it until I can.. or except that I never will

These 2 pictures were posted with a statement of now you see the blood and pic 2 of now you don't.

A simple 5 minute Photoshop job to make lights and darks appear more vibrant (purely levels adjustments.. no minipulation) shows that both images show the same blood spots.. just taken from different angles.
So in reply to the opening post - I see the same blood in image two that is apparent in image 1.

[Kaldin]

Nice job Pete. The fact that the pictures are at different angles, show different bits of carpet, and are of different qualities makes it all difficult to compare them.

[bb2010]

Nice job Pete. The fact that the pictures are at different angles, show different bits of carpet, and are of different qualities makes it all difficult to compare them.

While I agree that comparison is difficult. Pete has done enough to persuade me that these are the same areas of carpet.

[Kaldin]

Nice job Pete. The fact that the pictures are at different angles, show different bits of carpet, and are of different qualities makes it all difficult to compare them.

While I agree that comparison is difficult. Pete has done enough to persuade me that these are the same areas of carpet.

I agree. I have no reason to think that the blood on the carpet is different in the photos. One photo shows a larger area of carpet so it shows more blood. It's also a clearer picture.

[Pete0001]

Mike - I was wondering if my 5 minute circling exercise (i admit quite roughly done) on the photo's you posted shed any more light on what you initially thought.
Thanks
Pete

[Pete0001]

Any thoughts? I might have missed something.

[jon]

Any thoughts? I might have missed something.

Good work Pete but can you sit the photos on top of each other , i believe JB  team think they are different .

[Kaldin]

Any thoughts? I might have missed something.

Good work Pete but can you sit the photos on top of each other , i believe JB  team think they are different .

That would be difficult as they are taken from different angles, both vertically and horizontally, if that makes sense.

[jon]

So are the pictures of SC body but experts can line them up somehow , dont ask me how mind.

[Pete0001]

Hmm they could be placed on top of each other but there would be a degree of "adding" information to one of the pictures.

The pictures are totally different angles, focal lengths and focus points. You would have to majorly change the information within one of the pictures to make them line up one on top of the other... and I think any lawyer would argue the photo is no longer original.

The key point in what I did is circle patterns that appear in both shots regardless of angles, focus etc..

[mike tesko]

Hmm they could be placed on top of each other but there would be a degree of "adding" information to one of the pictures.

The pictures are totally different angles, focal lengths and focus points. You would have to majorly change the information within one of the pictures to make them line up one on top of the other... and I think any lawyer would argue the photo is no longer original.

The key point in what I did is circle patterns that appear in both shots regardless of angles, focus etc..

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My understanding, is that in one of the pictures, an attempt may have been made to clean the bloodstains up, but that whoever tried to do it with a view to trying to eradicate the blood evidence, did not make a very good job of it...

Hence...

The very light traces of where the blood staining, originally existed...

Let us also not forget, that Essex police cut this piece of carpet out from the remainder of the bedroom carpet, and they burned it on a bonfire in the grounds at whf...

[Kaldin]

I don't really understand this business of cutting up carpets. I could understand it if they got rid of all the carpets where there was blood, but not bits of them.

[Pete0001]

I don't really understand this business of cutting up carpets. I could understand it if they got rid of all the carpets where there was blood, but not bits of them.

I guess initially they would have cut a section of carpet that showed the blood spatter/pooling etc as part of evidence. I can't imagine they would have the time/man power to remove the whole bedroom carpet.

[mike tesko]

I don't really understand this business of cutting up carpets. I could understand it if they got rid of all the carpets where there was blood, but not bits of them.

I guess initially they would have cut a section of carpet that showed the blood spatter/pooling etc as part of evidence. I can't imagine they would have the time/man power to remove the whole bedroom carpet.

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If you cut the carpet, which contains the very bloodstains by which it would have been possible to reconstruct what took place leading up to, and during, and after the time of Sheila's death, the fact that you then seek to burn and destroy such a vital piece of evidence, suggests to me, that the police who destroyed it, did not want anyone to come along at a later date, to reconstruct what had actually taken place, as alleged...