DocMaker article on Milbank

[Steve_uk]

Sheila had love and respect for June. June was heavily financially supporting her, visiting her & Sheila was staying at WHF.

June may have pushed her religous beliefs too far on both of them when younger. Although Bamber claimed Sheila was religous & left a bible next to her 

Bamber had no love or respect for June. Resulting in his warped actions.

I think that's going a bit far. She may have respected her insofar as she seemed more capable and better organized, maybe she wanted to spare her feelings upon searching for her birth mother and thus asked Ann Eaton to take a photograph of her in her garden lest June found out. But I don't think love came in to the equation. Remember there were never any hugs, let alone kisses.

[ILB]

Resulting in his warped actions.

Sometimes you can put good arguments across but resorting to Justice Drakes sentencing remarks word he used to try and use it to your advantage is just goading and petty.

[snow66!]

I listened to it over on Twitter, Steve.
I'm no use at posting links to anything, but no doubt someone will post them here soon.
The likes of ngb or Dan perhaps?

Listened to episode 2 over on Twitter. Heidi interviews Dave and there's input from Bews as usual.
Julie wouldn't reply and Anne and Peter refused to discuss the murders when Heidi visited Whitehouse farm uninvited, although she had sent them a letter requesting an interview in the weeks previously.

[Adam]

I believe he was possibly warped enough to do this,  there have been other instances brought up of his use of Rats, Aldridge refers to, and JM remarks about the Rats eating his Marijuana plants making them easy to catch, so possibly he did this to June, someone who he had a dislike of?

He was very warped before the massacre and still is.  His attitude to women is warped.

Calling Sheila names and trying to frame her. Minutes after killing her.

Putting rats in June's car & cycling around her. Prior to killing her.

Complaining to MM about June & calling MM 'Mummy'. 

Involving Julie in his plans & threatening her not to go to the police. Prior to asking another out in front of her. Accusing her of lying since 1985. Despite no evidence of his innocence.

[Adam]

Listened to episode 2 over on Twitter. Heidi interviews Dave and there's input from Bews as usual.
Julie wouldn't reply and Anne and Peter refused to discuss the murders when Heidi visited Whitehouse farm uninvited, although she had sent them a letter requesting an interview in the weeks previously.

So nothing new regarding who spoke & who didn't.

Did they not interview CC? If not there is plenty of audio interviews of him online.

Visited WHF? Thought it was private property.

[ILB]

He was very warped before the massacre and still is.  His attitude to women is warped.

Calling Sheila names and trying to frame her. Minutes after killing her.

Putting rats in June's car & cycling around her. Prior to killing her.

Complaining to MM about June & calling MM 'Mummy'. 

Involving Julie in his plans & threatening her not to go to the police. Prior to asking another out in front of her. Accusing her of lying since 1985. Despite no evidence of his innocence.

Do you believe Bamber is a misogynist?

[Hardy Boy]

He was very warped before the massacre and still is.  His attitude to women is warped.

Calling Sheila names and trying to frame her. Minutes after killing her.

Putting rats in June's car & cycling around her. Prior to killing her.

Complaining to MM about June & calling MM 'Mummy'. 

Involving Julie in his plans & threatening her not to go to the police. Prior to asking another out in front of her. Accusing her of lying since 1985. Despite no evidence of his innocence.

The Utter shambles of the investigation has given him the Strategy for police corruption which enables him to claim his innocence and  to keep his campaign going. Doesn’t matter how many times his appeals have failed, his supporters (who do him more harm) will always distort a Narrative for him.  The list is endless what they have come up with, you’ve only got to look around the Aga evidence, and the claims that the Police moved Neville from the Aga to burn evidence after shooting June, or that Sheila knocked Neville out cold for three hours and he burned his back by the Aga?

[snow66!]

So nothing new regarding who spoke & who didn't.

Did they not interview CC? If not there is plenty of audio interviews of him online.

Visited WHF? Thought it was private property.

No Colin yet, Adam, but its only episode 2.
Heidi just chanced her arm turning up at WHF!

[Adam]

No Colin yet, Adam, but its only episode 2.
Heidi just chanced her arm turning up at WHF!

Have not read CC gave them an interview. They may play some former audios of his.

Optimistic of Heidi, just turning up.

[Adam]

Think everyone is waiting for an audio of Millbank's interview. If it comes to nothing, everyone will be waiting for Guest29835's evidence. He posted on his forum -

'I am now at the point where I believe his factual innocence is a significant possibility.  I never thought I would make that statement.  This change of stance is due to one specific piece of evidence I have seen that has never been made public.  It is not conclusive, and never will be, and I must grant that it is also possible I am misinterpreting it.  Expert input is needed, but my tentative conclusion about it is that it is damning for the prosecution. '

[snow66!]

Have not read CC gave them an interview. They may play some former audios of his.

Optimistic of Heidi, just turning up.

Well she had written to Ann requesting an interview but got no reply.
Yes, they may play previous audios of CC, I think thats what they may have done with Bews?
Dave and Ann dont get on very well now, due to the distribution of the Bambers estate!
Oh and Peter told Heidi not to get seduced by JBs charms and fall for his lies.

[snow66!]

Think everyone is waiting for an audio of Millbank's interview. If it comes to nothing, everyone will be waiting for Guest29835's evidence. He posted on his forum -

'I am now at the point where I believe his factual innocence is a significant possibility.  I never thought I would make that statement.  This change of stance is due to one specific piece of evidence I have seen that has never been made public.  It is not conclusive, and never will be, and I must grant that it is also possible I am misinterpreting it.  Expert input is needed, but my tentative conclusion about it is that it is damning for the prosecution. '

Yes, the Milbank audio is obviously what everyone is waiting for, Adam!

[handymanz]

It is very warped of Bamber to put rats into June's car. As well as cycle around her while taunting her.

Bamber testified 'there was a lack of understanding' !

In the podcast Barbara Wilson said Jeremy put a bag of rats into her car. Or have I missed something and he did it to June as well.

[snow66!]

The Utter shambles of the investigation has given him the Strategy for police corruption which enables him to claim his innocence and  to keep his campaign going. Doesn’t matter how many times his appeals have failed, his supporters (who do him more harm) will always distort a Narrative for him.  The list is endless what they have come up with, you’ve only got to look around the Aga evidence, and the claims that the Police moved Neville from the Aga to burn evidence after shooting June, or that Sheila knocked Neville out cold for three hours and he burned his back by the Aga?

Well realistically, HB, if you accept that the Aga was indeed responsible for the burns, then there are only two scenarios, either Nevill was alive when lying against it and then got up himself, or he was already dead and the police moved him!
Of course most just dismiss the Aga evidence and say that it could have been any hot item that caused the burns, but deep down I think we all know that there was no real logical reason whatsoever for the killer to burn Nevills back, be it Jeremy or Sheila!
Indeed, the burns had always been a bit of a mystery until the Boyce evidence emerged a few years ago, which to be honest, made a lot of sense, well to me anyway!
Yes, I for one will always have reasonable doubt of JBs guilt even if he never gains his freedom, due to the Aga evidence alone.

[Adam]

Well realistically, HB, if you accept that the Aga was indeed responsible for the burns, then there are only two scenarios, either Nevill was alive when lying against it and then got up himself, or he was already dead and the police moved him!
Of course most just dismiss the Aga evidence and say that it could have been any hot item that caused the burns, but deep down I think we all know that there was no real logical reason whatsoever for the killer to burn Nevills back, be it Jeremy or Sheila!
Indeed, the burns had always been a bit of a mystery until the Boyce evidence emerged a few years ago, which to be honest, made a lot of sense, well to me anyway!
Yes, I for one will always have reasonable doubt of JBs guilt even if he never gains his freedom, due to the Aga evidence alone.

There is no aga evidence. Just more things invented by the CT.  The evidence is in the raid team WS's from 1985. That Nevill was found with his head in the coal scuttle.

One of the few things guilters agreed with Bamber about was his 2012 CCRC submission. That the burns could have been submitted with rifle minus silencer. But he changed his mind on this.