PC John Manners statement - 23/09/1985

[mike tesko]

Mike, that photo is so obviously key - is there no way it can be traced?

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through the negatives, but Essex police chopped them up into single frames and several are still missing or unaccounted for, as far as I can gather? The police had to destroy the bedding upon which Sheila's body was laying because there would have been evidence contained on the blankets that Sheila had been laying there, so they burnt all the damning evidence on a bonfire in the grounds of whf...

Police told Ann Eaton that Sheila and June were found on the bed...

Why would the police lie to the relatives?

[Jackiepreece]

Of course because of the importance of the photos I bet they conveniently dissapear. They will use every trick in the book with public opinion turning in JB s favour

[grahameb]

I believe Mike has seen Sheila on the bed what reason would he have to lie about that point?

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Sheila was photographed on the bed, and Ann Eaton was told by a police officer that June was found on the bed, along with Sheila, and the gun laying between them...

So what?   They moved her, get over it.

Dave, I'd wish you'd do a bit of reading of early posts before you comment on something you obviously know nothing about. That way you will come over in an intelligent way instead of giving the impression that you are fumbling in the dark.

[grahameb]

Of course because of the importance of the photos I bet they conveniently dissapear. They will use every trick in the book with public opinion turning in JB s favour

Now I know you are deluded. The public will never warm to a child butcher.

No, but they would to an innocent man unjustly convicted.

[andrea]

dave of course it matters if the bodies were moved, they should be photographed in the position they were FOUND in, not manipulated by the police first before photos are taken. it matters alot, dont you get it ?

[andrea]

fact is dave , the bodies shouldnt have been moved by the police before they were photographed, it hasnt give an accurate depiction of the crime scene has it, they shouldnt have interfered with the crime scene, simple as that.

[Hartley]

And also to add I do not think he was mistaken, to describe it as such would not convey my opinion, I believe he is actively lying in order to bolster his argument.

Just as he did when he informed us that Ann Eaton took blood soaked clothes home for whf, he cropped a page of Ann's statement, if he hadn't cropped it then we would have seen the next line which shows Mike to be actively lying in an attempt to deceive people.

So yes that's it. You have irritated the hell out of me though, but I'll calm down in thirty seconds. 

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Yes, Ann Eaton took home the bloodstained panties of Sheila, and other bloodstained garments from the bucket in the kitchen, why would someone want to do this?

And whilst on the subject of bloodstained panties, wasn't it her who conspired with DCS "Mick" Ainsley (head of the second investigation) to make sure that she mentioned when testifying that you can tell the difference between menstrual blood and ordinary blood by way of the smell (if she was asked about the possibility that the silencer had been deliberately contaminated with blood from Sheila's panties)?

It amounts to something when the head of the second investigation is telling witnesses what to say when they testify, don't you think?

No she didn't, this is like groundhog day. I've already done this.

Read Anns statement, it even explains which bin they went into.

 http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,497.msg8443.html#msg8443

[shonapugs]

And also to add I do not think he was mistaken, to describe it as such would not convey my opinion, I believe he is actively lying in order to bolster his argument.

Just as he did when he informed us that Ann Eaton took blood soaked clothes home for whf, he cropped a page of Ann's statement, if he hadn't cropped it then we would have seen the next line which shows Mike to be actively lying in an attempt to deceive people.

So yes that's it. You have irritated the hell out of me though, but I'll calm down in thirty seconds. 

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Yes, Ann Eaton took home the bloodstained panties of Sheila, and other bloodstained garments from the bucket in the kitchen, why would someone want to do this?

And whilst on the subject of bloodstained panties, wasn't it her who conspired with DCS "Mick" Ainsley (head of the second investigation) to make sure that she mentioned when testifying that you can tell the difference between menstrual blood and ordinary blood by way of the smell (if she was asked about the possibility that the silencer had been deliberately contaminated with blood from Sheila's panties)?

It amounts to something when the head of the second investigation is telling witnesses what to say when they testify, don't you think?

No she didn't, this is like groundhog day. I've already done this.

Read Anns statement, it even explains which bin they went into.

 http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,497.msg8443.html#msg8443
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I thought that, too. Mike, this has been sorted, and you know that it has. When you have so many facts at your fingertips, why do you compromise your credibilty? I'm still recovering from the Ali Bongo fiasco. And I still dream about beetroot.

[Enigma]

Of course because of the importance of the photos I bet they conveniently dissapear. They will use every trick in the book with public opinion turning in JB s favour

Public opinion turning in Bamber's favour! Yeah he is a popular bloke now!
I see all the free Bamber marches and demos all the time on Sky News!
It's on the Fantasy Channel.

[shonapugs]

Dave, diss Jackie at your peril. No one works harder. You have to admire that.

[andrea]

ffs

[shonapugs]

Of course because of the importance of the photos I bet they conveniently dissapear. They will use every trick in the book with public opinion turning in JB s favour

Public opinion turning in Bamber's favour! Yeah he is a popular bloke now!
I see all the free Bamber marches and demos all the time on Sky News!
It's on the Fantasy Channel.

You had me going there for a bit Poor Bambi until I saw Fantasy Channel.  Between that and the Jackie tweets it makes for a mind-boggling afternoon.

You have to humour some of the cranks sometimes .... actually there's only two cranks before I get told off! And Grahame deffo isn't one of them!

I sometimes wonder, PB, if you don't crank a bit too much. IMO.

[Enigma]

ffs

Only joking 

[andrea]

just stop the shit now, theres no need for it, you was doing ok pb until dave came on line, hes leading you astray lad 

[chochokeira]

Dave, diss Jackie at your peril. No one works harder. You have to admire that.

Hi Shona, great to see you! Good post about Jackie -very true too. +1 for both of you.