Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002

[tyler]

Cold and calculating psychopathic Jeremy Bamber,who went windsurfing and on foreign holidays following the murders. Julie Mugford accompanied him believing him to be a cold blooded murderer....so what does this make her?!!

[Steve_uk]

steve where is it documented that Jeremy was giggling with Brett was Julie with them.

No I think MI5 were listening in to their conversations.

[tyler]

Oh please don't tell me MI5 were involved in this case as well?!!

[susan]

steve are you having a laugh or what

[susan]

Hello tyler exactly what does that make her steve will tell you she loved him and hoped none of it was true and of course she was frightened of him.

[Jane]

..and when he said he was glad they were dead,but he "did miss the old man occasionally"..was this dissociation as well. When he told Julie at Blazer's restaurant Blackheath "maybe there is something wrong with me..I don't feel anything" was this dissociation as well? Or does he just pace around his prison cell thinking "everything will come out in the wash" as he reminisces on the five victims he killed just when Times reporters happen to be in the neighbourhood?

I am VERY loath to accept as truth ANYTHING which Julie SAID Jeremy said, however, I can concur that he would naturally have expected to feel something so I can find nothing wrong with him expressing that he felt nothing.

[susan]

steve you have very little or no experience of how emotions work in different individuals I have been there I know what it is not to feel anything when you think you should but it does happen at a  later date it is called a delayed reaction to trauma that you block out.

[HMEssex]

The point is that they had to confess. Otherwise it would certainly have been revealed in court. They didn't do it because they felt guilty, they confessed because they knew they had no choice. The meeting had been discussed by someone with the fraud department prior to JM and SB's visit to the bank, probably to pressure them not to prosecute despite that being the bank's policy. Jones conveniently was off work so there was no log entry of his whereabouts. Even if the stuff was given away it didn't matter because the cheques would be made out to the shops who could then identify the girls.

Interesting.

It was a case of tidying up any loose ends by SBJ, otherwise called manipulation.  Surely, police officers are not supposed to work when 'off work'?

Regarding the fraud department already knowing, is this the bank or police? 

[Jane]

steve are you having a laugh or what

Don't think Steve does laughs, Susan.

[tyler]

To be honest,I'm not sure that I would take it in straight away if my whole family were wiped out in one fell swoop in such horrific circumstances. I'm sure the valium that Jeremy was prescribed would have made him feel numb! What was Julie's excuse when she went along to identify the victims and appeared to show no emotion whatsoever?

[Jane]

Of course whether the above is true or not it all pales into comparison with the cold-blooded murder of five individuals.

Are you telling us that in your opinion she did nothing wrrong? I would have been VERY interested to see if the law agreed with your lenient view of her crimes and just how easy she found it to get gainful employment AFTER she'd been convicted.

[susan]

tyler she had a need to ask morbid questions then she needed a ciggy when she got outside.  Valium numbs all emotions and makes a person like a zombie whereas they do not feel emotions I am speaking from experience and this is how Jeremy was after the horrific deaths of his entire family.

[Alias]

Of course whether the above is true or not it all pales into comparison with the cold-blooded murder of five individuals.

Well, it is true, Julie got her pale little fingers on a lot of money in a criminal and morally questionable manner, it is a fact; but since you say it is OK to steal and commit fraud as long as you donate to charity or throw your loot in the trash ( ) or haven´t murdered five people (even though you say that you knew for a whole year about the plans to carry out those murders), who am I to judge! 

[Jane]

To be honest,I'm not sure that I would take it in straight away if my whole family were wiped out in one fell swoop in such horrific circumstances. I'm sure the valium that Jeremy was prescribed would have made him feel numb! What was Julie's excuse when she went along to identify the victims and appeared to show no emotion whatsoever?

Tyler, other than Steve who seems to have a clear cut prescriptive pattern of behaviour for every circumstance known to man, I TRULY don't believe ANY of us would.

[Caroline R]

..and when he said he was glad they were dead,but he "did miss the old man occasionally"..was this dissociation as well. When he told Julie at Blazer's restaurant Blackheath "maybe there is something wrong with me..I don't feel anything" was this dissociation as well? Or does he just pace around his prison cell thinking "everything will come out in the wash" as he reminisces on the five victims he killed just when Times reporters happen to be in the neighbourhood?

And there's where the problem 'lies'