The Silenced Rifle Did Not Fit Inside The Gun Cupboard

[Adam]

That post was directed at Adam, not you.  But taking it at face value, as usual with you, I don't see what point you are trying to make in relation to the point I am making about you, Adam and others.  You do seem fond of shifting the goalposts to avoid the point.

The point is simple:

You came on the Forum affecting to the neutral, or something similar, then in fairly short order you became a dogmatic pro-guilt person.

I know this, because I've read the relevant posts.

You are of course perfectly entitled to your views and it could be that you genuinely made up your mind.  That's your business.

I just find it interesting, especially when others noticed it at the time and it was commented on, and others have made the same observations about you that I have.

I don't like these unpleasant confrontations between us, but ultimately I didn't start the trouble between us.  You did.

Posters are entitled to change from neutral to guilt or innocent.

I only suggested to be neutral in my foyer introduction. The forum was very pro innocent then. So wanted to make a friendly intro.

After that no one will say I have ever been anything but a guilter.

[guest2181]

I'm not sure I agree.  It seems to me that there have been lots of problems on the Red Forum. 

The point in regard to yourself, which I see you don't deny, is that you are not in a position to criticise the posting habits of anybody.  You yourself are an abusive poster.  You know that full well.  The same applies to Steve, Hartley and Real Justice.

Instead of indulging in sermons about other people's behaviour, perhaps mend your own ways?  Good people are people who do good things, not people who boast about doing good or spend their time preaching to other people about it.

Erm, thanks but leave me out of your petty squabbles please.

[guest29835]

Erm, thanks but leave me out of your petty squabbles please.

Then don't start squabbles, Hartley.

I am not fooled by your pompous sermonising, NewHighlyStrungHartley.

I see through you.

[guest29835]

Posters are entitled to change from neutral to guilt or innocent.

I only suggested to be neutral in my foyer introduction. The forum was very pro innocent then. So wanted to make a friendly intro.

After that no one will say I have ever been anything but a guilter.

I don't believe you.

[Adam]

I don't believe you.

My foyer introduction is here to read.

[guest29835]

My foyer introduction is here to read.

I mean, I don't believe what you say is genuine.

[lookout]

Just to add, in the late Margaret Thatcher's words----" This lady's not for moving ".

[Jane]

Just to add, in the late Margaret Thatcher's words----" This lady's not for moving ".

I'd never have known. You kept it very quiet

[lookout]

I'd never have known. You kept it very quiet

I'm not one for making things known 

[guest29835]

Just to add, in the late Margaret Thatcher's words----" This lady's not for moving ".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ-M0KEFm9I

[lookout]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ-M0KEFm9I

Moving/ turning, what's the difference ?

[guest29835]

Moving/ turning, what's the difference ?

I'm all for having principles, but I think Thatcher's approach to things - very ideological and based on rigid practical convictions about how things should be - was sometimes questionable.  Note I refer to her approach to things, I am not trying to make a political point or making any comment here on the merits or otherwise of her policies, an entirely different matter.

The principled position here is that justice should be done.  I think that if you go beyond that and start taking an immoveable approach to questions of factual guilt or innocence, then you end up with miscarriages of justice.  The whole basis of the criminal justice system, as I see it, is that it is supposed to embrace scepticism.  There is no place for Thatcher's attitude in a criminal trial.

[Steve_uk]

I'm all for having principles, but I think Thatcher's approach to things - very ideological and based on rigid practical convictions about how things should be - was sometimes questionable.  Note I refer to her approach to things, I am not trying to make a political point or making any comment here on the merits or otherwise of her policies, an entirely different matter.

The principled position here is that justice should be done.  I think that if you go beyond that and start taking an immoveable approach to questions of factual guilt or innocence, then you end up with miscarriages of justice.  The whole basis of the criminal justice system, as I see it, is that it is supposed to embrace scepticism.  There is no place for Thatcher's attitude in a criminal trial.

Maybe you should move on orthography once again..https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/immovable

[guest29835]

Maybe you should move on orthography once again..https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/immovable

Immoveable is a perfectly good alternative spelling of the same word.

Haha!  This is very funny, especially in view of your background in teaching.  You're such an idiot, but please keep it up.  It's really entertaining and, not for the first time, you've given me a good laugh.

This is why I call you Badly Taught Steve.  You didn't know that a dictionary is for checking the meaning of words as well as the spelling, and every time you try to correct my spelling, you get it wrong.

You seem to drop clangers every time you come on to the Forum.

[Steve_uk]

Immoveable is a perfectly good alternative spelling of the same word.

Haha!  This is very funny, especially in view of your background in teaching.  You're such an idiot, but please keep it up.  It's really entertaining and, not for the first time, you've given me a good laugh.

This is why I call you Badly Taught Steve.  You didn't know that a dictionary is for checking the meaning of words as well as the spelling, and every time you try to correct my spelling, you get it wrong.

You seem to drop clangers every time you come on to the Forum.

I'll accept this if you can show me the link or a screenshot to this exact word being spelled your way.