Det. Supt. 'Mick' Ainsley - oversight of corrupt practices

[lookout]

It's mainly the top brass isn't it ?
I found another of Jeremy's letters yesterday regarding the bloods in the silencer, written to Mike in 2003.

Jeremy is a lone voice against these shysters who are supposed to uphold the law.
What chance does anyone stand ?

[lookout]

Digressing----EP admitted that mistakes were made in the murder of Stuart Lubbock during the Michael Barrymore case. A DCI had led the team of investigators. Police had believed witnesses saying it had been " a tragic accident " when it had been rape and murder. The scene was never sealed off.

Barrymore has always pleaded innocence of any involvement and has helped Stuart's dad to keep the case in the limelight in order to track down what had actually happened.

[Roch]

It's mainly the top brass isn't it?

This is what I was trying to explain the other day. In order to be top brass in the first place, you have to be seen as a safe pair of hands who won't rock the boat. This CPS bloke has probably been told just to let it go to judicial review, because there's a good possibility Bamber will lose anyway.  Then there's no need to worry about disclosing anything.

[lookout]

This is what I was trying to explain the other day. In order to be top brass in the first place, you have to be seen as a safe pair of hands who won't rock the boat. This CPS bloke has probably been told just to let it go to judicial review, because there's a good possibility Bamber will lose anyway.  Then there's no need to worry about disclosing anything.

That's exactly right Roch.

[notsure]

Yes he told Liz Rimington they were spoiled children. Other than that since he couldn't even remember the married name of his sister that morning I doubt there were many pronouncements on the subject, apart from telling Julie he would have to kill all five of them.

and this is exactly what i don’t get. who in thier right minds wouldn’t tell if they were told the children would have to be killed. evil beyond belief if she really was told he was going to kill the children and she didn’t tell. i don’t believe julie was evil and i don’t believe he told her this!

[lookout]

and this is exactly what i don’t get. who in thier right minds wouldn’t tell if they were told the children would have to be killed. evil beyond belief if she really was told he was going to kill the children and she didn’t tell. i don’t believe julie was evil and i don’t believe he told her this!

Because JM had told one lie ( MM ) the rest of what she said was indeed questionable.

[Jane]

Because JM had told one lie ( MM ) the rest of what she said was indeed questionable.

How was it her lie when she was only repeating what Jeremy told her? Surely it makes "questionable" what HE said?

[lookout]

How was it her lie when she was only repeating what Jeremy told her? Surely it makes "questionable" what HE said?

She'd known it was a lie, but the remark came in handy at the time. Normally she took no notice of JB's quips as she'd often freely admitted that he was a joker.

[lookout]

Hadn't JB allegedly told RWB that he could " kill his parents ?" Why didn't he do something about that at the time ?

[Jane]

Hadn't JB allegedly told RWB that he could " kill his parents ?" Why didn't he do something about that at the time ?

Like "Good Morning officer, I'd like to report that my nephew has just told me he could kill his parents"? You know perfectly well the answer would very likely, if it hadn't been "And?", would most likely have been "Thank-you, Sir, but there's nothing we can do until such time as a crime is committed". It would then have been forgotten about..................

.................However, I'm aware that the irony is that had he got together with Julie and shared information.............? Two heads are always better than one.

[lookout]

Like "Good Morning officer, I'd like to report that my nephew has just told me he could kill his parents"? You know perfectly well the answer would very likely, if it hadn't been "And?", would most likely have been "Thank-you, Sir, but there's nothing we can do until such time as a crime is committed". It would then have been forgotten about..................

.................However, I'm aware that the irony is that had he got together with Julie and shared information.............? Two heads are always better than one.

Erm, a well-known " pillar of the community " who had friends in the Met, and wouldn't have been believed ??

[Jane]

Erm, a well-known " pillar of the community " who had friends in the Met, and wouldn't have been believed ??

Perhaps you can name his so-called "friends in the Met" who, had he believed the threat to be serious enough, he'd have told? I don't know whether you realize it, but the Met aren't part of Essex police, -who, I imagine, had more on their hands than looking into yet another threat by a disgruntled son- and have no jurisdiction over them. It MAY have been filed and forgotten. More likely it would just have been forgotten. Let's face it, Lookout. If you want to be honest, neither RWB nor Julie could have prevented what happened.................but both were probably left with the feeling that they wished they'd said something.

[lookout]

Perhaps you can name his so-called "friends in the Met" who, had he believed the threat to be serious enough, he'd have told? I don't know whether you realize it, but the Met aren't part of Essex police, -who, I imagine, had more on their hands than looking into yet another threat by a disgruntled son- and have no jurisdiction over them. It MAY have been filed and forgotten. More likely it would just have been forgotten. Let's face it, Lookout. If you want to be honest, neither RWB nor Julie could have prevented what happened.................but both were probably left with the feeling that they wished they'd said something.

The Carr family, father and son----who interfered in the Bamber case by keeping RWB up to speed with what was going on when the case was in progress.

[Jane]

The Carr family, father and son----who interfered in the Bamber case by keeping RWB up to speed with what was going on when the case was in progress.

 "Interfered with"? That would be your opinion, naturally. It's not unheard of for the police to give updates of investigations to family members. In this case, it would be a courtesy. They were, after all, the Bambers' closest relatives. I don't believe there to be a law against it

[maggie]

This is what I was trying to explain the other day. In order to be top brass in the first place, you have to be seen as a safe pair of hands who won't rock the boat. This CPS bloke has probably been told just to let it go to judicial review, because there's a good possibility Bamber will lose anyway.  Then there's no need to worry about disclosing anything.

Thanks for posting that Roch.