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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: Conflicting Statements
« Reply #285 on: December 23, 2019, 09:51:PM »




Locked farmhouse is right. How did he get in ? through the letter-box ?
Didn't I read somewhere they always left a window open for the cat to jump through?

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« Reply #286 on: December 23, 2019, 10:05:PM »
Didn't I read somewhere they always left a window open for the cat to jump through?





No Steve, that's me. What cat ?

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Re: Conflicting Statements
« Reply #287 on: December 24, 2019, 04:58:PM »
Another conflicting part of Brett’s statement, he’s asked to confirm his movements between July and August, he makes no mention of a Amsterdam trip with Jeremy not long after arriving in the Uk before the murders?  Jeremy’s drug trade business to Scotland had fell through at this stage.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9699.0;attach=54048

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8969.0;attach=50190

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8969.0;attach=50193

Yet Hulie mentions his trip to Amsterdam with Jeremy when he arrived in the summer?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9699.0;attach=54050

Here again Jeremy had asked Julie to go alone to Amsterdam with Brett, one can only surmise it’s to do with drugs?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9699.0;attach=54052
British police dismissed Brett as rather a coquettish individual: a fool. He was far from that as Jeremy was using him to value the family heirlooms at White House Farm. He also was a career criminal of sorts, so nobody's fool, but five murders..

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« Reply #288 on: December 24, 2019, 05:09:PM »
British police dismissed Brett as rather a coquettish individual: a fool. He was far from that as Jeremy was using him to value the family heirlooms at White House Farm. He also was a career criminal of sorts, so nobody's fool, but five murders..
how was Jeremy using him? They had met a few years previously. By Brett's own admission he had been in Greece, took a stroll seen a newspaper that reported the massacre and then come to the UK to support his friend. By mugfords own words, Jeremy seemed submissive to brett.
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« Reply #289 on: December 24, 2019, 05:16:PM »
British police dismissed Brett as rather a coquettish individual: a fool. He was far from that as Jeremy was using him to value the family heirlooms at White House Farm. He also was a career criminal of sorts, so nobody's fool, but five murders..
Yes your right Steve, seems he’s been at it all his life?  Bamber used anyone or anything, his family was on to him hence the mention of changing their wills.

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« Reply #290 on: December 24, 2019, 05:19:PM »
Yes your right Steve, seems he’s been at it all his life?  Bamber used anyone or anything, his family was on to him hence the mention of changing their wills.
which you can only draw from third party opinions having never have met the man....
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« Reply #291 on: December 24, 2019, 05:24:PM »
British police dismissed Brett as rather a coquettish individual: a fool. He was far from that as Jeremy was using him to value the family heirlooms at White House Farm. He also was a career criminal of sorts, so nobody's fool, but five murders..
Is this the same Brett Collins Steve, he would have been 61 in 2014

http://i.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news/10224335/30k-fine-for-selling-too-many-vehicles

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Re: Conflicting Statements
« Reply #292 on: December 24, 2019, 06:10:PM »

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Re: Conflicting Statements
« Reply #293 on: December 24, 2019, 06:45:PM »
I believe it is.
Thanks NGB, age matches with his statement age.  It’s the first I’ve known about Jeremy’s trip to Amsterdam just before the murders with Brett?  The fact he doesn’t mention this in his statement about his time in UK, I knew of a trip after but not just before.  I need to  catch up, the police never mention it as well and they looked at his passport?

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Re: Conflicting Statements
« Reply #294 on: December 24, 2019, 07:59:PM »
I believe it is.
ngb even though this isn't your point of reference, you must admit that other posters bringing up a news article of Brett Eric Collins committing crimes some 30 years after his involvement with Jeremy Bamber , which hasten to add, are motor vehicle related. And the fact that Collins was in Greece at the time of the murders, and furthermore no kind of conspiracy between Bamber and Collins was put forward. Would lead anybody to think that nothing sinister or relevance had happened..


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Re: Conflicting Statements
« Reply #295 on: December 24, 2019, 08:00:PM »
Furthermore this article of Brett Collins involved In some dodgy car trade is always put forward. It doesn't add nothing to substainate Bambers guilt ....
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« Reply #296 on: December 24, 2019, 08:05:PM »
British police dismissed Brett as rather a coquettish individual: a fool. He was far from that as Jeremy was using him to value the family heirlooms at White House Farm. He also was a career criminal of sorts, so nobody's fool, but five murders..
Like you said Steve he was a career criminal


 He sold eight vehicles in 12 months, which exceeded the limit of six allowed under the Motor Vehicle Sales Act.

The $30,000 fine last month was the largest imposed under the act, the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment said.

Fines for unregistered vehicle trading usually average about $4600.

Ministry registries integrity and enforcement team manager Karla Flood said the heavy penalty reflected the fact this was the man's fifth conviction since 2006 for the same offence.

"This defendant continued to sell motor vehicles for several years, despite several previous convictions for selling motor vehicles without being registered," she said.

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« Reply #297 on: December 24, 2019, 08:50:PM »
Bit of a contradiction really, he says even without the silencer on the noise still makes them scatter, sometimes not alway, but if you miss the richochet  will?  Yet he’s gone out to shoot rabbits in fading light without a silencer and without sights?  He hadn’t much chance of shooting anything really, waste of time loading the rifle.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1144.0;attach=5851;image

Also confusing, some report he heard rabbits,  then he changes to seen rabbits?  Then he says “I told my parents I was going to get them rabbits”. Then in another statement he says I had my back to my parents and he never mentions he was going to get them rabbits?

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Re: Conflicting Statements
« Reply #298 on: December 24, 2019, 09:33:PM »
Bit of a contradiction really, he says even without the silencer on the noise still makes them scatter, sometimes not alway, but if you miss the richochet  will?  Yet he’s gone out to shoot rabbits in fading light without a silencer and without sights?  He hadn’t much chance of shooting anything really, waste of time loading the rifle.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1144.0;attach=5851;image

Also confusing, some report he heard rabbits,  then he changes to seen rabbits?  Then he says “I told my parents I was going to get them rabbits”. Then in another statement he says I had my back to my parents and he never mentions he was going to get them rabbits?
good points rj,what bamber fail to realise is to be a good lier one must have an excellent memory.

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Re: Conflicting Statements
« Reply #299 on: December 24, 2019, 10:08:PM »
Furthermore this article of Brett Collins involved In some dodgy car trade is always put forward. It doesn't add nothing to substainate Bambers guilt ....

I totally agree.  It is completely irrelevant.