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tyler

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Was Pargeters rifle also an Anshutz?
« on: June 23, 2011, 09:37:PM »
I have noticed that those who believe in JBs guilt,also  tend to regard Roger Wilkes book "Blood Relations as their "bible"! As in that what has been written is gospel.Well,it clearly states in that book,on more than one occasion,that Anthony Pargeters rifle was ALSO an anshutz (as used to carry out the muders).Is this true?

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Re: Was Pargeters rifle also an Anshutz?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2011, 09:47:PM »
Hi, Tyler. I ordered that book from Amazon yesterday - apparently it will be a second- hand copy with notes in the margins! Serves me right for being a cheapskate!

(I'll let you know if the notes are interesting!)

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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2011, 09:52:PM »
Haha.Thank you Shona.Am only a little way in to the book,but am amazed by how upset JB actuall was after the tragedy considering everyone has said he showed no emotion or grief.But I wont tell more.Dont want to spoil it for you  ;)

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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2011, 10:10:PM »
Sorry but really think it is both important and relevant to get an answer for this.Does anyone know?Or does anyone know how I can find out?

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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2011, 10:18:PM »
I'm waiting on an answer too. It's quite possible that my question was just plain dumb (wouldn't be the first time) but when Mike told me that all the bullets fired that night had been destroyed, I wondered if they had been photgraphed before they were destroyed, re. the fragmented bullet from Sheila's body.

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Re: Was Pargeters rifle also an Anshutz?
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2011, 10:58:PM »
Hi, Tyler. I ordered that book from Amazon yesterday - apparently it will be a second- hand copy with notes in the margins! Serves me right for being a cheapskate!

(I'll let you know if the notes are interesting!)

Hi Shona, Please do post on the forum what the margin notes say!

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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2011, 11:02:PM »
I will, choch!! I'm hoping they're signed A.E!! Or D.B!!

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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2011, 11:13:PM »
Although the hit-man theory has never really been taken seriously, or investigated in any detail, I still find it more feasible than imagining Sheila shooting the boys, then June, having to re-load, then chasing Ralph to the kitchen and beating and shooting him. Ralph was a tall, strong man - he wouldn't have just waited for Sheila to attack him. There is no evidence that he tried to leave the house or protect himself in any way - and if shots had already been fired, Ralph would have warned JB to stay outside. In all reality, asking JB to "come quick, your sister's gone crazy..........." would be inviting him to be also injured or killed. IMO.

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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2011, 11:20:PM »
And if Sheila had shot herself in the neck, in the kitchen, (you can see where the blood collected in her neck) then moved upstairs to the bedroom, her heart would have been beating, which means blood circulation and loss. She would surely be soaked in blood. Not to mention the pain and disorientation.

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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2011, 11:24:PM »
Well, mike tesko has been saying for a long time that Pargeter had a .22 Bruno bolt action rifle (should that be Brno?), which isn't, of course, an Anschütz, but both can use the same ammunition.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2011, 09:10:AM by Reader »

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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2011, 11:25:PM »
Was Ralph's blood found on the kitchen floor, apart from around the coal scuttle?

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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2011, 11:33:PM »
She would surely be soaked in blood.
You can lose quite a bit of blood without being soaked in it, as any blood that comes into contact with air gels rapidly.

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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2011, 11:36:PM »
But from a neck wound? Wouldn't the blood fall down her front? And neck?

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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2011, 11:53:PM »
If you disregard the silencer issue, which seems to go nowhere and prove nothing, and find no evidence of Ralph's call to the police, which there doesn't seem to be, where does that leave us?

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Re: Was Pargeters rifle also an Anshutz?
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2011, 07:33:AM »
Reader,thank you for your answer. So if RW has made a huge error like that in his book,then we can safely take a lot of his other"findings" at face value!