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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: Nigel on April 16, 2018, 01:45:AM
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Facts:
no order
1/ 'bake off' - joke
2/ recent 33 Guinness book of records in Felixstowe pub, with very weird b&w photos of said 'performer' trying to match photos of JEREMY, VERY ODD - joke
3/ rant by grave side - joke
4/ website, unprofessional, Laurel and Hardy etc - joke
5/ half hearted 'bike ride' by WHF - joke
Trudi proving JEREMY could not have ridden a bike, please watch full video
https://youtu.be/1-mn8SCXpYg
PLEASE NOTE SHE SAYS 'COMMITTED THE MURDERS AND RIDEN A BYCYLE.'
WHAT.. why the hell are you rambling sorry SHUFFLING by foot then?????
does she have a degree in the Worlds worse campaigner/marketer?
or is there something we don't know about Trudi, based on above?
PS
shuffling
[shuhf-ling]
adjective
1.
moving in a dragging or clumsy manner.
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Facts:
no order
1/ 'bake off' - joke
2/ recent 33 Guinness book of records in Felixstowe pub, with very weird b&w photos of said 'performer' trying to match photos of JEREMY, VERY ODD - joke
3/ rant by grave side - joke
4/ website, unprofessional, Laurel and Hardy etc - joke
5/ half hearted 'bike ride' by WHF - joke
Trudi proving JEREMY could not have ridden a bike, please watch full video
https://youtu.be/1-mn8SCXpYg
PLEASE NOTE SHE SAYS 'COMMITTED THE MURDERS AND RIDEN A BYCYLE.'
WHAT.. why the hell are you rambling sorry SHUFFLING by foot then?????
does she have a degree in the Worlds worse campaigner/marketer?
or is there something we don't know about Trudi, based on above?
PS
shuffling
[shuhf-ling]
adjective
1.
moving in a dragging or clumsy manner.
Probably lol
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A good decent person Trudi may be but because of these qualities she isn't cut out for the job in hand. Her position needs force and determination ( without the flowery bits ) if she is to remain fighting for this man's freedom. You have to be ruthless and show determination-- at times being impolite in which to get your point across. Sadly this isn't happening which is frustrating and creating a continual dragging of feet.
It's not my way at all as I want things doing " yesterday ".
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Even she can't flog a dead horse.
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A good decent person Trudi may be but because of these qualities she isn't cut out for the job in hand. Her position needs force and determination ( without the flowery bits ) if she is to remain fighting for this man's freedom. You have to be ruthless and show determination-- at times being impolite in which to get your point across. Sadly this isn't happening which is frustrating and creating a continual dragging of feet.
It's not my way at all as I want things doing " yesterday ".
Sounds like me! Perhaps this is my calling? ;D
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Sounds like me! Perhaps this is my calling? ;D
;)
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Seriously though those who are genuinely interested in the case will be fast losing interest the longer this fiasco continues therefore depleting any further support that there might have been.
I can understand to an extent that anything we're not privy to right now stays within those whose job it is to gather all they have before releasing it to the public in one fell swoop which is understandable but the longer it goes on the further the case drops to the bottom of the pile again as other news surfaces.
More frustrating for JB I imagine.
I wouldn't hold my breath given that it's taken successive Governments 70 years to apologise for the " Windrush " debacle------Shameful and a National Disgrace against British Citizens.
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Trudies weekly vlogs were stopped quickly. A pity as everyone looked forward to it on a Monday. Bamber has also asked for the forum to be shut down.
He knows that both makes him look more guilty. He already has enough going on to keep his case high profile. With the OS, media releases & official Youtube videos.
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The 'Sheila alive' was insensitive as well.
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I wouldn't be requesting anything from Amber Rudd either----------she forgets things !
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Trudy, totally useless.
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Trudi dreadful.
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At least the woman has put her money where her mouth is which is more than anyone else has done to set the ball rolling for Jeremy.
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At least the woman has put her money where her mouth is which is more than anyone else has done to set the ball rolling for Jeremy.
Not quite right lookout. Others have also made serious efforts.
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Not quite right lookout. Others have also made serious efforts.
I didn't know that NGB. On the same scale ?
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At least the woman has put her money where her mouth is which is more than anyone else has done to set the ball rolling for Jeremy.
Ngb is right. I think the campaign team seem to treat Jeremy as their property.
Some people have helped Jeremy so much financially and with their precious time and it seems as soon as anyone shows independently they can help Jeremy overturn his conviction they are frozen out
It’s unacceptable behaviour and unbelievable that they can play with Jeremy’s life the way they do
There are no words
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Ngb is right. I think the campaign team seem to treat Jeremy as their property.
Some people have helped Jeremy so much financially and with their precious time and it seems as soon as anyone shows independently they can help Jeremy overturn his conviction they are frozen out
It’s unacceptable behaviour and unbelievable that they can play with Jeremy’s life the way they do
There are no words
Thanks for that Jackie. I agree,it IS unacceptable and certainly not very nice. I understand now. I was just drawn to them because of feeling helpless probably and not having the same wherewithal that they all have.
Goodness me,that throws a whole new light on things.
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Please read my opening post, word for word and digest it.
Then ask yourself, 'is this a women that has JEREMY's best interest at heart'.
I say NO.
I would not trust her as far as I could Spit.
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I know now NGB and feel rather deflated to be honest. They're onto a good thing aren't they ?
Ever get the feeling you've been bumswizzled ?
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I Hope and Pray 'Trudi Benjamin', never has contact with JEREMY again.
The women can not be trusted.
...see my opening POST if you want proof.
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Please read my opening post, word for word and digest it.
Then ask yourself, 'is this a women that has JEREMY's best interest at heart'.
I say NO.
I would not trust her as far as I could Spit.
Add the 'Sheila alive' to the opening post.
I can understand one error of judgement.
But not six.
As someone said on another thread (without speaking the obvious) "we are dealing with someones life here".
She is meant to be 'campaign manager' either she has an IQ of 75 or she is undermining JEREMY's release.
I could go to Chester Zoo and get a Chimpanzee to do a better job.
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Peter Tatchell should be 'campaign manager' and overseeing the release.
I trust him 100%, with my life actually.
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I didn't know that NGB. On the same scale ?
There have been a number of people who have at different times contributed a lot in terms of both time and effort and also money. Some have publicly supported JB, others have supported behind the scenes. Unfortunately jealousy and petty internal politics sometimes gets in the way.
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It's hard to know who is genuine and trustworthy these days and I'm supposing Jeremy feels let down by everyone around him after having learned the hardest lesson back in 1985/6 when his trust was put into both relatives and EP. That alone will never be wiped from his memory and his only line of defence has been a mistrusting hostility toward others when all he wants is plain justice and to be released.
I don't believe for one minute that those to whom JB had rebuffed had been done out of ingratitude or thanklessness.
Understanding the psychology of the human can be complex to those without the knowledge of how an individual reacts in certain situations. We're all different and JB is no exception.
How would any of us feel in his predicament ?
Yes,money is fine but----------it doesn't replace what you've lost such as 33 years of your precious life and having been locked up for all this time doesn't make things any easier so because this fact is imprinted on JB's mind nothing else matters,which is understandable to those of us who can empathise with this.
The only thing on JB's mind is getting out before it's too late and NOT that he's ungrateful for what anyone has done.
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JEREMY BAMBER and MORDECHAI VANUNU, will be remembered for centuries to come.
For how God challenges us all.
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Anton Chekov wrote : " Love,friendship and respect do not unite people as much as a common hatred for something ".
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what has she done wrong.
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She's gone about some things the wrong way nugs. Instead of doing " bake-offs and graveside visits " she'd have been as well beginning from the real heart of the matter without any " flowery " bits. People aren't interested or are put off by what they'd class as a " psychopathic child murderer " being involved in such fripperies-------------it doesn't gel even if he were guilty.
Trudi may have got the message of late by seemingly abandoning her " Vlogs " and having less to say on the more lighter side to this crime which added nothing to the job in hand.
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what has she done wrong.
One of the flaws in the Defence is that Jeremy so obviously despised his parents, or at the very least harboured a grudge against them, yet we are led to believe through propaganda that everything in the garden was rosy. A very similar scenario pertained in the David Bain case.
Under these circumstances the graveside spout of Trudi's was in thoroughly bad taste and must have backfired spectacularly.
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One of the flaws in the Defence is that Jeremy so obviously despised his parents, or at the very least harboured a grudge against them, yet we are led to believe through propaganda that everything in the garden was rosy. A very similar scenario pertained in the David Bain case.
Under these circumstances the graveside spout of Trudi's was in thoroughly bad taste and must have backfired spectacularly.
No
And it doesn’t matter how many times you try to peddle that lie it is simply not true
You haves failed to show This in your numerous posts, but then you believe everything Julie says
That says it all
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If JEREMY was going to kill his family he would not have phoned the Police.
I am not the 'sharpest tool in the box' but even I can work this out.
JEREMY loved and still loves his family.
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Ngb is right. I think the campaign team seem to treat Jeremy as their property.
Some people have helped Jeremy so much financially and with their precious time and it seems as soon as anyone shows independently they can help Jeremy overturn his conviction they are frozen out
It’s unacceptable behaviour and unbelievable that they can play with Jeremy’s life the way they do
There are no words
I wonder if they plan to have a 40th anniversary bake off? ;D
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If JEREMY was going to kill his family he would not have phoned the Police.
I am not the 'sharpest tool in the box' but even I can work this out.
JEREMY loved and still loves his family.
The Police were in effect his alibi.
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The Police were in effect his alibi.
Fair play to you Steve, and respect. I also apologise for my 'run ins' with you in the past.
I have a question for you though..
what would it take for you to believe JEREMY is innocent?
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Fair play to you Steve, and respect. I also apologise for my 'run ins' with you in the past.
I have a question for you though..
what would it take for you to believe JEREMY is innocent?
One or more of the following:
Police on duty on the morning of 7th August 1985 to admit they shot Sheila and staged the scene. Peter and Ann Eaton admitting they dropped menstrual blood into a silencer by means of a pipette and scratched the mantelpiece. Their children overhearing them admit this and reporting them to Police. Similarly Julie admitting that her evidence was a total fabrication or any of her relatives claiming this is what they overheard her say.
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One or more of the following:
Police on duty on the morning of 7th August 1985 to admit they shot Sheila and staged the scene. Peter and Ann Eaton admitting they dropped menstrual blood into a silencer by means of a pipette and scratched the mantelpiece. Their children overhearing them admit this and reporting them to Police. Similarly Julie admitting that her evidence was a total fabrication or any of her relatives claiming this is what they overheard her say.
Thanks Steve, and again respect.
If the 'silencer' could be proved that it could not have been used with 'the rifle'
Would you set JEREMY free?
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Thanks Steve, and again respect.
If the 'silencer' could be proved that it could not have been used with 'the rifle'
Would you set JEREMY free?
I think that's a hypothetical question because surely this would have been a ground of appeal by now? Further grounds for release would be PC West admitting he concealed a call from Nevill or the Raid Team admitting they had been in conversation with Sheila sometime that morning.
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I think that's a hypothetical question because surely this would have been a ground of appeal by now?
If you read the CCRCs 2012 decision. The burden of proof for this is now proving it was not involved in any way what so ever.