Jeremy Bamber Forum
JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on January 01, 2018, 07:27:PM
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I think you will all find the contents of the following letter, dated, 31st July, 1991, addresse to 'The Chief Superintendent, Complaints and Discipline, Headquarters, from Acting Chief Inspector A M Boreham:-
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Who was / is 'Jeff Blake'?
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Who was / is 'Jeff Blake'?
More to the point, who was / is M M Smerdon?
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More to the point, who was / is M M Smerdon?
What (if anything) was the privileged information she received and passsed on to A M Boreham in connection with the Bamber shootings?
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Crazy people are renowned for coming forward in murder investigations.
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More to the point, who was / is M M Smerdon?
Well, we know she was a doctor. We can, of course, jump to the conclusion that she was a doctor of medicine, but she could just as easily be a Phd. Because no attempt seems to have been made to A) follow up this lead B) she appears to have made no further move to make public whatever knowledge, it may point to her lack of conviction. I'd be surprised, however, if she believed she had something worth sharing, she'd kept it to herself.
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Well, we know she was a doctor. We can, of course, jump to the conclusion that she was a doctor of medicine, but she could just as easily be a Phd. Because no attempt seems to have been made to A) follow up this lead B) she appears to have made no further move to make public whatever knowledge, it may point to her lack of conviction. I'd be surprised, however, if she believed she had something worth sharing, she'd kept it to herself.
Well, she didn't keep it to herself, because the Acting Chief Inspector got wind of it, whatever it was...
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Well, she didn't keep it to herself, because the Acting Chief Inspector got wind of it, whatever it was...
If she was serious about it, no doubt he wasn't the only one. She was clearly a woman of some intelligence so she'd have known where to take it if she felt she hadn't been heard.
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If she was serious about it, no doubt he wasn't the only one. She was clearly a woman of some intelligence so she'd have known where to take it if she felt she hadn't been heard.
That's not the point, the information she provided was not passed on to Jeremy or his legal team...
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That's not the point, the information she provided was not passe on to Jeremy or his legal team...
Who knows, you might come across said letter in that mountain of paperwork you have. The covering letter was dated 1991 so it's just possible that it was one which was overlooked.
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Who knows, you might come across said letter in that mountain of paperwork you have. The covering letter was dated 1991 so it's just possible that it was one which was overlooked.
If I come across it, I will post it up...
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We have no way of knowing the authenticity of the letter, but strange that he should have the same initials as Jeremy Bamber, and the association with Cornwall brings to mind Colin.
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Crazy people are renowned for coming forward in murder investigations.
Ditto!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CK_2hv5VAAAexFo.jpg)
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I've removed a post because she did at least come forward, though admittedly as it transpired too little, too late.
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If he did then how does the phone call fit in? It would mean that Neville said he not she and that would mean the scene would probably not been staged as a suicide as has been claimed .
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ie neer heard of him before.
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If he did then how does the phone call fit in? It would mean that Neville said he not she and that would mean the scene would probably not been staged as a suicide as has been claimed .
When Neville Bamber called police as per the 3.26am phone call log, he specifically referred to 'my daughter', ect...
This call was made after Neville had made a brief call to Jeremy (around 3.25am), where Neville could have, or did say to Jeremy, 'Sheila has', or 'she has', or 'he has' - 'got the gun and is going crazy'...
If this is the correct sequence of the events, i.e. (a) Neville phoned Jeremy, followed by (b) Neville contacting the police at 3.26am, and then (c) Jeremy tried to call Neville back but kept getting a constant 'engaged tone', and that (d) Jeremy tried contacting Witham police station without success, so at (e) Jeremy called Julie Mugford' (3.30am), and he told her 'there's something wrong at the farm', and she responded by telling Jeremy to 'go back to bed', and that thereafter, (f) Jeremy himself contacted PC West at Chelmsford police station at 3.36am, informing him that he had received a frantic telephone call from his father telling Jeremy that 'Sheila has got the gun', and that she was 'going crazy', etc - there is room here for the involvement of another person in addition to Sheila in these shootings, since, at (a) this could have been reference to a man ('he has'), or as the case may be, reference to another woman ('she has'). Whilst at (b) Neville Bamber was clearly relating to 'my daughter has got hold of one of my guns', and 'daughter gone berserk'. The failure of Jeremy to re-establish contact with his father at (c), and Witham police station at (d), and by all accounts and by the time at (e) he called Julie Mugford', that Jeremy himself must have been confused regarding what his father at (a) had said 5 minutes earlier, because all he says to Julie Mugford' at (e) was that 'there's something wrong at the farm', he didn't for example say to Julie Mugford' at the time of his call to her (e) that his father had said, 'this', 'that', or 'the other'. Then at (f) Jeremy is telling PC West that his father had told him, 'Sheila has got the gun' - I can't see how everyone, or anyone, can say with 100% certainty that all these references at (a), (b), (c), (d), (e) and (f), related to one individual alone, be it 'Sheila has', 'she has, or 'he has'...
It's possible, for example, that at (a) Neville Bamber could have been referring to his wife, June Bamber, as having 'got the gun', and that by the time Neville called police at (b) 3.25am, that the seriousness of the situation had worsened and now 'my daughter has got hold of one of my guns', and, 'daughter gone berserk'. This would be true, or could have been true, from Neville Bambers perspective at the hub of real time activity back inside the farmhouse...
Jeremy's account at (f) is open to interpretation - whereas, in Neville Bambers accounts at (a) and (b) he was expressing what had been, and was happening in real time around him!
The real issue, was whether or not, the sequence of the various phone calls (a) and (b) took place, or occurred, prior to other calls, or attempted calls made at (c), (d), (e) and (f)?
I believe there are very strong grounds for accepting that 'this sequence of events' as alluded to here, is a true record of all of these calls, in one form or another...