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OTHER HIGH PROFILE CASES => Other cases => Topic started by: Caroline on October 26, 2017, 11:06:AM

Title: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: Caroline on October 26, 2017, 11:06:AM
Interesting case!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-41747522
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: buddy on October 26, 2017, 11:19:AM
A bit dodgy in my view. He would need quite a time to unpack the chute twist the lines, and repack.
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: guest2181 on October 26, 2017, 11:20:AM
Interesting case!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-41747522

I think if you try to kill someone by throwing them out of a plane without a working parachute at 1.2km above the ground - and they survive - then you may as well just give up. Not try to kill them another couple of times!!!
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: guest2181 on October 26, 2017, 11:21:AM
A bit dodgy in my view. He would need quite a time to unpack the chute twist the lines, and repack.

Apparently not Buddy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-41671630 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-41671630)
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: buddy on October 26, 2017, 11:29:AM
Apparently not Buddy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-41671630 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-41671630)
Thanks H. He would need to do the same with the reserve though.
Surely he would have been seen going to the toilet with two chutes.
I suspect she packed her own chute wrongly, and accused her husband.
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: guest2181 on October 26, 2017, 11:31:AM
Thanks H. He would need to do the same with the reserve though.
Surely he would have been seen going to the toilet with two chutes.
I suspect she packed her own chute wrongly, and accused her husband.

I suspect she should have chosen a different husband.
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: buddy on October 26, 2017, 11:36:AM
I suspect she should have chosen a different husband.
Or a different hobby. ;D
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: lookout on October 26, 2017, 03:15:PM
Another case of  a woman scorned ?
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: Adam on October 26, 2017, 05:17:PM
This highlights that inheritance killings are not just sons like Bamber, Blackwell, Benson & the Menendez brothers.

It can also be a simple husband killing a wife. Or vice versa.
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: Steve_uk on October 26, 2017, 07:18:PM
He's guilty.
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: guest154 on October 26, 2017, 07:24:PM
His wife is either the second most unlucky person (After Jeremy Bamber), or he's guilty.
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: David1819 on October 26, 2017, 07:57:PM
How did she manage to survive a 4000ft drop?  ???
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: Steve_uk on October 26, 2017, 08:06:PM
How did she manage to survive a 4000ft drop?  ???
I think the field had been freshly ploughed and there was still one thread of her parachute attached which must have given it some aerodynamic properties. Notwithstanding her injuries were horrendous.
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: Adam on October 26, 2017, 08:08:PM
I always believed if you landed in water from a great height you would survive.

This is incorrect which is why there are a lot of suicides off the Golden Gate Bridge.
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: lookout on October 26, 2017, 08:15:PM
How did she manage to survive a 4000ft drop?  ???






When I first heard that I thought she'd died,until I saw the rest of the news. Even if she had have died,there'd still have been no proof one way or the other.
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: Caroline on October 26, 2017, 09:41:PM
I think if you try to kill someone by throwing them out of a plane without a working parachute at 1.2km above the ground - and they survive - then you may as well just give up. Not try to kill them another couple of times!!!

This guy never did! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8eP0ntOJ1U  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: David1819 on October 26, 2017, 11:47:PM
I think the field had been freshly ploughed and there was still one thread of her parachute attached which must have given it some aerodynamic properties. Notwithstanding her injuries were horrendous.

Must have been. Cant be a hard surface. The 9/11 jumpers splattered to pieces.  :o

NSFL
https://youtu.be/ONXbFNmbqMA?t=17s (https://youtu.be/ONXbFNmbqMA?t=17s)
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: Steve_uk on October 27, 2017, 06:40:PM
Must have been. Cant be a hard surface. The 9/11 jumpers splattered to pieces.  :o

NSFL
https://youtu.be/ONXbFNmbqMA?t=17s (https://youtu.be/ONXbFNmbqMA?t=17s)
Yes then there was an argument with the insurance companies over whether the deaths were suicides or not.
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: David1819 on October 27, 2017, 09:01:PM
Yes then there was an argument with the insurance companies over whether the deaths were suicides or not.

Really? The situation forced them to jump. plus how would they know who jumped and who did not?
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: Steve_uk on October 27, 2017, 09:21:PM
Really? The situation forced them to jump. plus how would they know who jumped and who did not?
I think the insurance companies did pay out in the end. Some argued that people were just falling due to the smoke and heat.
http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=21;t=001091;p=0
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: David1819 on October 27, 2017, 09:48:PM
I think the insurance companies did pay out in the end. Some argued that people were just falling due to the smoke and heat.
http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=21;t=001091;p=0

That link only askes the question weather its true or not.

I also heard rumours about bible nut funeral directors refusing service to them because its suicide  :-\

Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: nugnug on October 29, 2017, 07:42:PM
this guy isn't the sharpist tool in the box is he.
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: sandra L on October 30, 2017, 10:53:PM
I heard this on the radio the other day - she admitted she lied about the time he spent in the toilet, admitted she wanted to "cast suspicion on him" in her  police statements, and has gone back on her claim  that leaving her hire kit in a locker overnight (because of bad weather) was "very strange" - admitting, instead, that it wasn't that unusual!

She said she was "gunning for him" after finding out about his affairs,  and was "embarrassed" to say she might have cut away a perfectly good parachute before her reserve chute failed. If this whole case was brought on the basis of her police statements, it's not looking too good for the prosecution right now

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/wife-in-parachute-trial-wanted-revenge-on-her-husband/ar-AAueZL2?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=AARDHP
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: Steve_uk on October 30, 2017, 11:05:PM
I heard this on the radio the other day - she admitted she lied about the time he spent in the toilet, admitted she wanted to "cast suspicion on him" in her  police statements, and has gone back on her claim  that leaving her hire kit in a locker overnight (because of bad weather) was "very strange" - admitting, instead, that it wasn't that unusual!

She said she was "gunning for him" after finding out about his affairs,  and was "embarrassed" to say she might have cut away a perfectly good parachute before her reserve chute failed. If this whole case was brought on the basis of her police statements, it's not looking too good for the prosecution right now

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/wife-in-parachute-trial-wanted-revenge-on-her-husband/ar-AAueZL2?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=AARDHP
On the other hand she had expressed suicidal thoughts, which her husband may have got wind of, he had already tampered with a gas valve in an attempt to kill her, reminding me of the Michael Blagg case, she had already made provisions to change her will in favour of the children due to his gambling addiction and he wanted to cut loose and marry his new love with no alimony due to a dead spouse.
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: nugnug on October 30, 2017, 11:27:PM
i find it hard to belive that after failing to kill her the first time he would try exactly the same method agian.

but then agian i find it hard belive anyone person could be as unlucky as that.
Title: Re: Emile Cilliers trial: Parachute sabotage
Post by: Steve_uk on October 30, 2017, 11:52:PM
i find it hard to belive that after failing to kill her the first time he would try exactly the same method agian.

but then agian i find it hard belive anyone person 2 be as unlucky as that.
Well he didn't cut two parachutes on two occasions, but maybe he just got desperate?