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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: Jackiepreece on May 18, 2011, 10:12:AM

Title: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Jackiepreece on May 18, 2011, 10:12:AM
Does anyone know if the relatives have petitioned the ccrc to have everything released under PII.

The relatives always complain about continuing appeals surely this action by them could bring an end to this case once and for all

Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Alias on May 18, 2011, 01:48:PM
Does anyone know if the relatives have petitioned the ccrc to have everything released under PII.

The relatives always complain about continuing appeals surely this action by them could bring an end to this case once and for all

Good point.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 02:11:PM
Does anyone know if the relatives have petitioned the ccrc to have everything released under PII.

The relatives always complain about continuing appeals surely this action by them could bring an end to this case once and for all

More relative bashing Jackie?

The relatives have nothing to do with this application to the CCRC, they are not involved in the process in any way.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: John on May 18, 2011, 02:13:PM
I think they are trying to be facetious Hartley!  ;D
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 02:15:PM
Plus also note that in order to have PII protected evidence released, the defence would need to make an application to the DPP, the CCRC are not involved in the process.

I've told you that before but you don't seem to have grasped the concept.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 02:17:PM
I think they are trying to be facetious Hartley!  ;D

They're trying to be faeces?  :o  Oh facetious .... gotcha.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: John on May 18, 2011, 02:22:PM
Plus also note that in order to have PII protected evidence released, the defence would need to make an application to the DPP, the CCRC are not involved in the process.

I've told you that before but you don't seem to have grasped the concept.

She doesn't read the posts Hartley.  One track mind and all that! 
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: chelmsey on May 18, 2011, 04:15:PM
Jackie..........I think that the relatives just wish Jeremy would crawl into a hole somewhere and die.And no offence,but if they really believe that he is guilty,then that is quite understandable.Peter Eaton is very confident that Jeremy will never ever win any of his appeals.Im sure that Hartley will be able to confirm that for you,being his friend and all.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 04:20:PM
Im sure that Hartley will be able to confirm that for you,being his friend and all.

Groan ....... this is tiresome.  :P
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Jackiepreece on May 18, 2011, 04:29:PM
Lady Chelmsey
Hartley denies knowing any of the family at all

If the family would like JB to crawl away never to be seen again happen if everything was released to the defence the surely JB could never appeal again there would be nothing new to bring up as a new challenge

Hence why don't the relatives petition to get everything released
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: chelmsey on May 18, 2011, 04:31:PM
Im sure that Hartley will be able to confirm that for you,being his friend and all.

Groan ....... this is tiresome.  :P

I was not being sarcastic actually.I have no need to be.You have stated many times that Peter is a friend of yours,so if he is happy to tell a stranger his views then I assume he must have shared them with you also.I was just pointing out to Jackie that as JBs relatives believe that he is guilty,why would they want any involvement at all in any appeal.Surely as far as they are concerned,Jeremy was found guilty and he is where he rightly should be?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 04:33:PM
Lady Chelmsey
Hartley denies knowing any of the family at all

Jackie you plonker (I apologise for petty name calling in advance  ;) ) I have not admitted or denied any thing, do you not remember the challenges I set you?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 04:36:PM
I was not being sarcastic actually.I have no need to be.You have stated many times that Peter is a friend of yours,so if he is happy to tell a stranger his views then I assume he must have shared them with you also.I was just pointing out to Jackie that as JBs relatives believe that he is guilty,why would they want any involvement at all in any appeal.Surely as far as they are concerned,Jeremy was found guilty and he is where he rightly should be?

Right I will say right now that that is a f*****g lie. If you would like to prove me wrong on that score then you are welcome to peruse the thousand odd posts that I have made on this forum, I guarantee that you will not find anything because it is not something that I have said.

I'd stop listening to Jackie if I were you, who knows where she'll lead you next.  ::)

Plus you get a smite for being stupid -1  ::)
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: chelmsey on May 18, 2011, 04:43:PM
I was not being sarcastic actually.I have no need to be.You have stated many times that Peter is a friend of yours,so if he is happy to tell a stranger his views then I assume he must have shared them with you also.I was just pointing out to Jackie that as JBs relatives believe that he is guilty,why would they want any involvement at all in any appeal.Surely as far as they are concerned,Jeremy was found guilty and he is where he rightly should be?

Right I will say right now that that is a f*****g lie. If you would like to prove me wrong on that score then you are welcome to peruse the thousand odd posts that I have made on this forum, I guarantee that you will not find anything because it is not something that I have said.

I'd stop listening to Jackie if I were you, who knows where she'll lead you next.  ::)

Plus you get a smite for being stupid -1  ::)

I have not be listening to Jackie.I have read your posts.You have stated often that you know Ann and Peter and you have been in their house.If they are not your friends,then why would you be going into their house?  So dont call me a "f - ing liar"!
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 04:45:PM
I was not being sarcastic actually.I have no need to be.You have stated many times that Peter is a friend of yours,so if he is happy to tell a stranger his views then I assume he must have shared them with you also.I was just pointing out to Jackie that as JBs relatives believe that he is guilty,why would they want any involvement at all in any appeal.Surely as far as they are concerned,Jeremy was found guilty and he is where he rightly should be?

Right I will say right now that that is a f*****g lie. If you would like to prove me wrong on that score then you are welcome to peruse the thousand odd posts that I have made on this forum, I guarantee that you will not find anything because it is not something that I have said.

I'd stop listening to Jackie if I were you, who knows where she'll lead you next.  ::)

Plus you get a smite for being stupid -1  ::)

I have not be listening to Jackie.I have read your posts.You have stated often that you know Ann and Peter and you have been in their house.If they are not your friends,then why would you be going into their house?  So dont call me a "f - ing liar"!

That is a f***ING lie. If I have said that, prove it!
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: chelmsey on May 18, 2011, 04:52:PM
I was going to put up some of your posts to prove who is the liar.But of coarse I cannot,as they are all on your old account.The one that you deleted before coming back to the forum...........nice one!
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: chelmsey on May 18, 2011, 04:56:PM
I was going to put up some of your posts to prove who is the liar.But of coarse I cannot,as they are all on your old account.The one that you deleted before coming back to the forum...........nice one!

I don't have an old account and if I did it would still be there as accounts don't delete...silly girl!

Now who's the LIAR??

I wasnt talking to you!  Maybe you might wish to apologise?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: John on May 18, 2011, 04:57:PM
oops sorry your ladyship...answered wrong post...   ;D
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 05:01:PM
I was going to put up some of your posts to prove who is the liar.But of coarse I cannot,as they are all on your old account.The one that you deleted before coming back to the forum...........nice one!

That is untrue (a mistake rather than a lie this time I suppose) , every post I have made is still on this forum. Such as my very first post on this forum way back on February 11th.

I guess they are saying that a photograph cannot be placed at an exact time, where as the sworn statement of a police officer carries more weight.

Besides which photographs are you referring to? Other than the photographs which appear to show 'wet blood' on Sheila (which I can't explain) all the others are subjective.

Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: chelmsey on May 18, 2011, 05:03:PM
oops sorry your ladyship...this is getting complicated...two liars today?   ;D

Thankyou John. Dont see why I should be abused for stating something I believed to be true! Obviously stating "friend" was a poor choice of word and for some reason touched a nerve,but Hartley has previously made no secret on this forum that he knows the Eatons.And there is absolutely nothing wrong in that.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 05:06:PM
oops sorry your ladyship...this is getting complicated...two liars today?   ;D

Thankyou John. Dont see why I should be abused for stating something I believed to be true! Obviously stating "friend" was a poor choice of word and for some reason touched a nerve,but Hartley has previously made no secret on this forum that he knows the Eatons.And there is absolutely nothing wrong in that.

No nerve touched at all, I just don't like being lied about, simple as that really. The only reference I have made is in a reply to Vortex.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: chelmsey on May 18, 2011, 05:09:PM
oops sorry your ladyship...this is getting complicated...two liars today?   ;D

Thankyou John. Dont see why I should be abused for stating something I believed to be true! Obviously stating "friend" was a poor choice of word and for some reason touched a nerve,but Hartley has previously made no secret on this forum that he knows the Eatons.And there is absolutely nothing wrong in that.

No nerve touched at all, I just don't like being lied about, simple as that really. The only reference I have made is in a reply to Vortex.

So you do not know them then.And you have never been to their home.Fair enough,it makes no difference to me really.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 05:11:PM
oops sorry your ladyship...this is getting complicated...two liars today?   ;D

Thankyou John. Dont see why I should be abused for stating something I believed to be true! Obviously stating "friend" was a poor choice of word and for some reason touched a nerve,but Hartley has previously made no secret on this forum that he knows the Eatons.And there is absolutely nothing wrong in that.

No nerve touched at all, I just don't like being lied about, simple as that really. The only reference I have made is in a reply to Vortex.

So you do not know them then.And you have never been to their home.Fair enough,it makes no difference to me really.

I didn't say that either. No it makes no difference, you are quite right.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: chelmsey on May 18, 2011, 05:44:PM
Jackie  - if you would like to know  what the relatives think of Jeremy,re-visit the thread titled "The Relatives".I rest my case!
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 05:58:PM
What exactly is your case?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 06:05:PM
slow it up hartley . dont keep calling the woman a fucking liar
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 06:09:PM
slow it up hartley . dont keep calling the woman a fucking liar

Sorry I'm confused, who are you?

What's it got to do with you.  :-\
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 06:21:PM
just dont like so called men bullying women.If you want to bully anyone,do it to me face-toface   like the woman says reread the things you have wrote.I have and it seems the woman isnt a liar.you are the liar.you  are the one who is on here telling everyone all the eatons buisness.Their kids names adresses ages and everything.who are you more like.Next time i see peter I will ask him about you
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 06:26:PM
Seriously pal, if there isn't any bullying going on, you should figure out what a disagreement is about before weighing in.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 06:29:PM
firstly i aint your pal and secondly your calling the woman a liar when she clearly aint
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 06:37:PM
thank you saran.also if you read the topic the relatives he makes it very clear  that he know the family and then has the cheek to geek off at some poor woman for mentioning it.makes me sick people like him
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 07:14:PM
It's this thread that gave me the impression that you know the family, Hartley.
It involves a discussion about the kitchen window at WHF

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,435.0.html

Impression given or not, it is not something which I have stated.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Roch on May 18, 2011, 07:16:PM
It's this thread that gave me the impression that you know the family, Hartley.
It involves a discussion about the kitchen window at WHF

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,435.0.html

Impression given or not, it is not something which I have stated.

Hartley... are you saying that it is simply not relative?  ;D
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 07:39:PM
It's this thread that gave me the impression that you know the family, Hartley.
It involves a discussion about the kitchen window at WHF

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,435.0.html

Impression given or not, it is not something which I have stated.

Hartley... are you saying that it is simply not relative?  ;D
Yes something like that Rochy  ;)

Quite simply if I'm going to be used or quoted as part of an argument then I'd like it to be accurate. There's been so many false and inaccurate allegations on here that they end up being quoted as fact by others.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: andrea on May 18, 2011, 08:00:PM
are you from essex way hartley?  :)
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 08:11:PM
hello andrea  yes hes from Essex alrite.from around the Darcy area and we are gonna be debating face to face soon.the bloke is clearly a knob  its alrite for him to spout off on the forum his conections with the eatons and then having the bare face cheek to abuse that woman cos she dared mention it.i read the insults he keeps making to the jackie woman.big man
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: andrea on May 18, 2011, 08:17:PM
how are you going to be debating scrapper, whats being planned?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Jackiepreece on May 18, 2011, 08:20:PM
Welcome Scrapper thankyou
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: shonapugs on May 18, 2011, 08:44:PM
Oh, dear God. Jackie and Scrapper - Take a Break meets Viz.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: andrea on May 18, 2011, 08:47:PM
i love viz, the best read ever. i have loads of viz annuals, hillarious.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 08:47:PM
Did you take a snap through the window Hartley?
On March 2nd you said "all being well I'll be up there in a few weeks"

How exactly is that me stating I'm friends with them.  ??? On numerous occasions?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: paulg on May 18, 2011, 08:48:PM
Oh, dear God. Jackie and Scrapper - Take a Break meets Viz.

 ;D
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: andrea on May 18, 2011, 08:57:PM
you come out with some belters shona  ;D

but the denim shorts still has me pissing myself ;D
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: shonapugs on May 18, 2011, 09:00:PM
This forum's getting more like a dating agency!! I could make a killing renting out "cyber rooms" if I wasn't such a tit on a computer.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Alias on May 18, 2011, 09:05:PM
Did you take a snap through the window Hartley?
On March 2nd you said "all being well I'll be up there in a few weeks"

How exactly is that me stating I'm friends with them.  ??? On numerous occasions?

I can understand if people interpret it as being friends. It is hardly legal to take snapshots through stranger's windows, is it?

Although I have had it done to a house I used to live in in Odense, Denmark. The house was in the very close vicinity of H.C.Andersen's childhood home, which is a museum now. The tourists thought that all the houses in the neighbourhood were part of the museum and sometimes you would wake up to 3 or four pairs of Japanese eyes staring at you + a snap or two!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: clifford on May 18, 2011, 09:08:PM
Last time John.
Would you as a young man have assaulted a man of 62 Honest answer Please.
Sometimes saying nothing says more. Are you nailing your [yellow] colours to the mast.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Alias on May 18, 2011, 09:09:PM
This forum's getting more like a dating agency!! I could make a killing renting out "cyber rooms" if I wasn't such a tit on a computer.

OMG, funny!!!
Who is your forum sweetheart, shona? You have the hots for wichfinder? I´ll take him if he isn´t spoken for - (if he´s a girl, I´ll take him anyway).
I have to love a person who opens a thread with the headline: this forum is controlled by satan.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: John on May 18, 2011, 09:11:PM
Last time John.
Would you as a young man have assaulted a man of 62 Honest answer Please.
Sometimes saying nothing says more. Are you nailing your [yellow] colours to the mast.

Sorry Cliff, been working in the background.

No, I would not assault anyone let alone someone much older then me.  What is your point mate?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: John on May 18, 2011, 09:12:PM
This forum's getting more like a dating agency!! I could make a killing renting out "cyber rooms" if I wasn't such a tit on a computer.

OMG, funny!!!
Who is your forum sweetheart, shona? You have the hots for wichfinder? I´ll take him if he isn´t spoken for - (if he´s a girl, I´ll take him anyway).
I have to love a person who opens a thread with the headline: this forum is controlled by satan.

Do remember that wichfinder is actually nugnug who is a girl female!    ;D ;D
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Alias on May 18, 2011, 09:13:PM
This forum's getting more like a dating agency!! I could make a killing renting out "cyber rooms" if I wasn't such a tit on a computer.

OMG, funny!!!
Who is your forum sweetheart, shona? You have the hots for wichfinder? I´ll take him if he isn´t spoken for - (if he´s a girl, I´ll take him anyway).
I have to love a person who opens a thread with the headline: this forum is controlled by satan.

Do remember that wichfinder is actually nugnug who is a girl female!    ;D ;D

Nobody´s perfect...  ;)
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: andrea on May 18, 2011, 09:16:PM
i got the impression wichfinder was male too abs  :)
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: John on May 18, 2011, 09:17:PM
This forum's getting more like a dating agency!! I could make a killing renting out "cyber rooms" if I wasn't such a tit on a computer.

OMG, funny!!!
Who is your forum sweetheart, shona? You have the hots for wichfinder? I´ll take him if he isn´t spoken for - (if he´s a girl, I´ll take him anyway).
I have to love a person who opens a thread with the headline: this forum is controlled by satan.

Do remember that wichfinder is actually nugnug who is a girl female!    ;D ;D

Nobody´s perfect...  ;)

She's far from that!    ::)
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 09:17:PM
Did you take a snap through the window Hartley?
On March 2nd you said "all being well I'll be up there in a few weeks"

How exactly is that me stating I'm friends with them.  ??? On numerous occasions?

I can understand if people interpret it as being friends. It is hardly legal to take snapshots through stranger's windows, is it?

Although I have had it done to a house I used to live in in Odense, Denmark. The house was in the very close vicinity of H.C.Andersen's childhood home, which is a museum now. The tourists thought that all the houses in the neighbourhood were part of the museum and sometimes you would wake up to 3 or four pairs of Japanese eyes staring at you + a snap or two!  :o :o :o

Absolutely I agree.

But to be clear I haven't said I'm not friends with them, but I have not said that I am either. Which leads back to the allegations made that I have appatently said that I'm friends with them on numerous occasions, which isn't true, so my response that it's a f*****g lie stands.

Not sure what scrappy's problem is, doesn't like naughty words in conversations with woman or something. I personally think that if there's anyone being bullied here then it's poor old Harters.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: andrea on May 18, 2011, 09:19:PM
yeah harts, scrappy was a tad nasty with you earlier i agree.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Jackiepreece on May 18, 2011, 09:33:PM
Shona I like scrappy he sounds cool but I am already spoken for  you know the intelligent gorgeous guy with the guns
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: shonapugs on May 18, 2011, 10:00:PM
Oh Jackie, you monkey!! How did you find out his name is Neal? Anyway, my heart belongs to Hartley (although he's become a bit sweary lately).
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 10:04:PM
Sorry  :-[
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: shonapugs on May 18, 2011, 10:06:PM
It's OK. I understand. Anyway, hands up who thinks that the Queen is lovely??
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: shonapugs on May 18, 2011, 10:07:PM
I was just watching her on the news, and she looked all sweet and twinkley. Phillip looks like an evil lizard, though.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: John on May 18, 2011, 10:11:PM
Did you take a snap through the window Hartley?
On March 2nd you said "all being well I'll be up there in a few weeks"

How exactly is that me stating I'm friends with them.  ??? On numerous occasions?

I can understand if people interpret it as being friends. It is hardly legal to take snapshots through stranger's windows, is it?

Although I have had it done to a house I used to live in in Odense, Denmark. The house was in the very close vicinity of H.C.Andersen's childhood home, which is a museum now. The tourists thought that all the houses in the neighbourhood were part of the museum and sometimes you would wake up to 3 or four pairs of Japanese eyes staring at you + a snap or two!  :o :o :o

Absolutely I agree.

But to be clear I haven't said I'm not friends with them, but I have not said that I am either. Which leads back to the allegations made that I have appatently said that I'm friends with them on numerous occasions, which isn't true, so my response that it's a f*****g lie stands.

Not sure what scrappy's problem is, doesn't like naughty words in conversations with woman or something. I personally think that if there's anyone being bullied here then it's poor old Harters.

What's with the Bamber supporters anyway, are they trying to enlarge their database so that more threats can be made to individuals?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 10:17:PM
Not sure, they've become a right feisty bunch lately haven't they.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 10:23:PM
bout time some peeps showed some respect to the finer sex on here
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Alias on May 18, 2011, 10:26:PM
bout time some peeps showed some respect to the finer sex on here

I think everybody should show some respect. There.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 10:26:PM
bout time some peeps showed some respect to the finer sex on here

How about Julie Mugford and Ann Eaton?

I'm really not sure what your beef is.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 10:27:PM
i dont like men gobbing off at woman over fuck all
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 10:29:PM
wot ever
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 10:33:PM
i dont like men gobbing off at woman over fuck all

I said that what she said was a f*****g lie, and it was, not quite gobbing off at woman now is it?

My god I suppose we should let woman vote as well should we?  ::)

As I said I'm not sure what your problem is.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 10:34:PM
wot ever

Yes indeed.  :-\
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 10:34:PM
meet me face to face and i will tell you
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 10:36:PM
meet me face to face and i will tell you

You really are quite odd aren't you?  ???
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 10:36:PM
wot not got the balls lol
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: shonapugs on May 18, 2011, 10:41:PM
My mum says I'm not allowed to play with Scrapper, because he's "common".
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 10:42:PM
wot not got the balls lol

You've come on a forum on the computer and your making threats to meet up and have a fight, and you now want to discuss the size of my testicles? Well I have say it's a new one on me, yours must be the size of planets, you risk taker you. :-\

Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Roch on May 18, 2011, 10:44:PM
Scrapper... what do you make of Wichfinder?  Some funny posts on this thread though.   Viz... takes me back.  Speaking of testicle size... remember buster gonads?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 10:48:PM
hi rochford well there are some funny peeps on here
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 10:50:PM
sorry shona lol
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Roch on May 18, 2011, 10:52:PM
hi rochford well there are some funny peeps on here

When Wichfinder first came on, here I thought his posts were being sarcastic against both 'innocent' and 'guilty' posters.. But now with this Satan thing, I'm not sure what to make of it.  I'm assuming it is a bloke. Could be wrong...

Scrapper, what's your view on Jeremy Bamber and his conviction?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 10:54:PM
j b should have a fair trial at least .
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: shonapugs on May 18, 2011, 10:54:PM
Hartley, could we discuss the size of your testicles?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: HMEssex on May 18, 2011, 10:55:PM
hi rochford well there are some funny peeps on here





What did you mean then by this part of your earlier post:

"yes hes from Essex alrite.from around the Darcy area and we are gonna be debating face to face soon."


??
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 10:56:PM
and i am the common . lol
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 10:57:PM
hmessex i think we all know what i meen
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 10:57:PM
Hartley, could we discuss the size of your testicles?
  :-[ :-[ :D Not quite sure how to answer that one Shone x For once I'm lost for words.  :P
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 10:59:PM
hmessex i think we all know what i meen

Indulge me.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 10:59:PM
teach you how to speek to a lady
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 11:01:PM
teach you how to speek to a lady

Do you mean speak?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 11:03:PM
lol
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: paulg on May 18, 2011, 11:03:PM
teach you how to speek to a lady

Simple yes or no will do, are you threatening to inflict physical violence on another member of this forum?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 11:04:PM
any way that twat wants to take it
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: HMEssex on May 18, 2011, 11:05:PM
teach you how to speek to a lady



I guess we are all 'cleer' then!
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 11:05:PM
lol

Well you're entertaining Scrappy Do, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 11:07:PM
hope we are all on the same page . hartley do it face to face not on here
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 11:08:PM
hope we are all on the same page . hartley do it face to face not on here

Why did you join this forum out of interest?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: paulg on May 18, 2011, 11:09:PM
scrapper

If you feel that any member has made a post that you consider to be a personal attack, then report it to the admin team, and they will deal with it.

Your posts seem to be indicating you'd like to meet and inflict physical violence on another member, this is unacceptable.

Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 11:11:PM
looking in to this case as ep seem to fuck a lot of cases up
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: shonapugs on May 18, 2011, 11:12:PM
I would imagine that scrapper joined the forum for the same reason as wichfinder and nugnug. It's a bit like reading Oscar Wilde.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 11:13:PM
looking in to this case as ep seem to fuck a lot of cases up

Well it seems that you're doing a grand job.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 11:13:PM
paul sorry for any offence
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 11:15:PM
paul sorry for any offence

I'm Hartley, not Paul, but apology accepted.  8)
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: shonapugs on May 18, 2011, 11:17:PM
How does that work??? I just got a smite (fair enough) but I lost a clap!! Does that always happen - I've never noticed before.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 11:19:PM
How does that work??? I just got a smite (fair enough) but I lost a clap!! Does that always happen - I've never noticed before.

Sorry I can't help at the moment, I gave you clap less than an hour ago, have to wait a bit.  :'(
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: paulg on May 18, 2011, 11:19:PM
paul sorry for any offence

Apology accepted

Scrapper, this forum is made up of people that have varying views. Sometimes discussions can become heated, but we never threaten each other.

If you read something that you think is unacceptable, as i've already said, report it to admin.

Happy debating
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Paul on May 18, 2011, 11:21:PM
paul sorry for any offence

Apology accepted

Scrapper, this forum is made up of people that have varying views. Sometimes discussions can become heated, but we never threaten each other.

If you read something that you think is unacceptable, as i've already said, report it to admin.

Happy debating

+1 paulg
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: HMEssex on May 18, 2011, 11:26:PM
paul sorry for any offence

Apology accepted

Scrapper, this forum is made up of people that have varying views. Sometimes discussions can become heated, but we never threaten each other.

If you read something that you think is unacceptable, as i've already said, report it to admin.

Happy debating




Well said Paulg.  I actually feel sorry for Hartley.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 11:28:PM
Thank's but no need I'm fairly resilient and thick skinned. Oh actually it might just be thick  :-\
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: HMEssex on May 18, 2011, 11:34:PM
Thank's but no need I'm fairly resilient and thick skinned. Oh actually it might just be thick  :-\



No, you're not thick but definitely opinionated!  :)
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: shonapugs on May 18, 2011, 11:35:PM
Oh Hartley, thanks for giving me the clap. That will take some explaining to old Big Tits.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 11:38:PM
Thank's but no need I'm fairly resilient and thick skinned. Oh actually it might just be thick  :-\



No, you're not thick but definitely opinionated!  :)

Yeah I'd agree with that, I don't (or try not to) force my opinions on othets though, and in my mind at least I'm generally pretty fair.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: CHRIS T on May 18, 2011, 11:40:PM
I for one agree with Scrappy, he is totally right about Hartley. Reading through previous comments on this forum, i noticed that it is not the first time he has bullied another member on here. I forget her name now, but he was really nasty to her, and it looks like she may have left this site because of him. I don't get why he has any supporters on here, he is not the nice person he would have you all believe. Very fake.

You were bang out of order in your response to Lady Chelmsey and Jackie. They are not liars, you are! I don't care if i get a load of smites for this, i am only stating the truth
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 11:40:PM
Oh Hartley, thanks for giving me the clap. That will take some explaining to old Big Tits.
Shona? Shona who? Nope no idea, never heard of her.  ;)
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 11:42:PM
I for one agree with Scrappy, he is totally right about Hartley. Reading through previous comments on this forum, i noticed that it is not the first time he has bullied another member on here. I forget her name now, but he was really nasty to her, and it looks like she may have left this site because of him. I don't get why he has any supporters on here, he is not the nice person he would have you all believe. Very fake.

You were bang out of order in your response to Lady Chelmsey and Jackie. They are not liars, you are! I don't care if i get a load of smites for this, i am only stating the truth
Groan ..........  ???
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Jackiepreece on May 18, 2011, 11:44:PM
Talking about testicles is nobody interested in the topic of this thread at all I thought it was an interesting point to discuss.

JB can only keep going back to the ccrc if he has no new evidence so wouldn't it be in everyone's interest to release everything if the relatives know JB is guilty
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: shonapugs on May 18, 2011, 11:45:PM
Blimey, Christine, don't beat about the bush!! Do you honestly think that Hartley is a bully? Have you read some of the posts on here?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 11:46:PM
I for one agree with Scrappy, he is totally right about Hartley. Reading through previous comments on this forum, i noticed that it is not the first time he has bullied another member on here. I forget her name now, but he was really nasty to her, and it looks like she may have left this site because of him. I don't get why he has any supporters on here, he is not the nice person he would have you all believe. Very fake.

You were bang out of order in your response to Lady Chelmsey and Jackie. They are not liars, you are! I don't care if i get a load of smites for this, i am only stating the truth

a +1 for you christine. and he can take the p*ss out of my spelling as much as he likes.I cant help having dyslexia.just shows him up for what he is really
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: shonapugs on May 18, 2011, 11:47:PM
Scrapper, if you had dyslexia, you would not be able to spell dyslexia.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 18, 2011, 11:49:PM
Scrapper, if you had dyslexia, you would not be able to spell dyslexia.
i cant spell most things shona.i have to ask my son
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 18, 2011, 11:51:PM
I for one agree with Scrappy, he is totally right about Hartley. Reading through previous comments on this forum, i noticed that it is not the first time he has bullied another member on here. I forget her name now, but he was really nasty to her, and it looks like she may have left this site because of him. I don't get why he has any supporters on here, he is not the nice person he would have you all believe. Very fake.

You were bang out of order in your response to Lady Chelmsey and Jackie. They are not liars, you are! I don't care if i get a load of smites for this, i am only stating the truth

a +1 for you christine. and he can take the p*ss out of my spelling as much as he likes.I cant help having dyslexia.just shows him up for what he is really
Yep you win. Have a gold star.

On that award, I'll say good night, have a good one, I'm sure I'll be on the receiving end of your verbal tomorrow.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: CHRIS T on May 18, 2011, 11:55:PM
Blimey, Christine, don't beat about the bush!! Do you honestly think that Hartley is a bully? Have you read some of the posts on here?
Hi, Shonapugs, no point in beating about the bush! Yes, i do think that he is a bit of a bully, to be honest. I've been reading the forum for months now  :)
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: shonapugs on May 18, 2011, 11:56:PM
Scrapper, I'm not having a pop, it's just that you have seemed to join this forum with all guns blazing. Most of us are trying to be pretty reasonable - people like Chochy don't resort to swearing or insults. That's what makes them credible.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: CHRIS T on May 19, 2011, 12:01:AM
I for one agree with Scrappy, he is totally right about Hartley. Reading through previous comments on this forum, i noticed that it is not the first time he has bullied another member on here. I forget her name now, but he was really nasty to her, and it looks like she may have left this site because of him. I don't get why he has any supporters on here, he is not the nice person he would have you all believe. Very fake.

You were bang out of order in your response to Lady Chelmsey and Jackie. They are not liars, you are! I don't care if i get a load of smites for this, i am only stating the truth

a +1 for you christine. and he can take the p*ss out of my spelling as much as he likes.I cant help having dyslexia.just shows him up for what he is really
Thank you, Scrapper. No, you can't help having dyslexia, and it doesn't make a person thick if they have it  :)
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: scrapper on May 19, 2011, 12:05:AM
Scrapper, I'm not having a pop, it's just that you have seemed to join this forum with all guns blazing. Most of us are trying to be pretty reasonable - people like Chochy don't resort to swearing or insults. That's what makes them credible.
that is fair but you cant call hartley credible.he called a woman on here an f***ing liar when if you read back things he wrote he is in fact the liar.just thought he was out of order
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 19, 2011, 12:06:AM
Last one for tonight.

Christine my 'thick' comment was aimed at myself and in reference to Jackie calling me thick a few days ago.

But ho-hum.  :-\
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: CHRIS T on May 19, 2011, 12:14:AM
Last one for tonight.

Christine my 'thick' comment was aimed at myself and in reference to Jackie calling me thick a few days ago.

But ho-hum.  :-\
Fair enough!
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: shonapugs on May 19, 2011, 12:14:AM
It's pretty obvious that none of us are thick - shouty, opinionated, misguided at times, perhaps, but I presume that we're all here for the same reason, to see justice done. But bear in mind, at least some of us (and I don't include myself, necessarily) are right. We'll all just have to suck it and see.............
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: bob on May 19, 2011, 12:41:AM
wot not got the balls lol

Sorry "scrapper", but anyone who comes onto a forum like this, which is populated largely by intelligent people, and uses the phrase "lol" is a facebook loser.

Best you head off whence you came.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: chelmsey on May 19, 2011, 09:52:AM
Thank you to those that defended me,although there really was no need    :-[
I had made a simple mistake in my wording in my post to Hartley. I had wrote "stated" ,when I actually meant "insinuated"I am no "f-ing liar" as he put it.I have to agree with Christine.He can be a bit of a bully sometimes.He has had pops at me before,and once,the nice,sensible Vortex had to wade in to back me up.Have had enough tbh and will be off very soon.Will just hang around long enough to see the outcome re - the appeal.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: FredPerry on May 19, 2011, 09:58:AM
It's pretty obvious that none of us are thick - shouty, opinionated, misguided at times, perhaps, but I presume that we're all here for the same reason, to see justice done. But bear in mind, at least some of us (and I don't include myself, necessarily) are right. We'll all just have to suck it and see.............

I agree its just a shame that those who have recently joined just want to have a fight and not actually contribute to the forum in any positive way! To be fair I have not seen any signs of Hartley " bullying" I have seen a lot worse from more long term posters who then complain when people like Hartley stand up for themselves!! You can't have it both ways !
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 19, 2011, 10:29:AM
I'm not bullying any body, quite the opposite.

Lady C, mistake or not, you made a statement about me which was untrue, it was indeed a lie, whether a conscious one or not. I was not involved in a conversation with you, you simply decided to refer to me in one of your posts, and I responded. That is not bullying, if anything it could be seen as the other way around.

And Lady C you now say that I haven't stated something, I insinuated it? Well I'm sorry but that's not true either, you have either used the wrong word or it's another lie.

What you have done is read my posts and you have interpreted what I have said in your own way, the insinuation is from yourself.

But whatever.  :-\
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: chelmsey on May 19, 2011, 10:42:AM
What a load of rubbish! You have made it clear previously that you have been in whf.You have posted with regards to the feelings of the Eatons regarding Jeremy.You have posted that the Eatons have shown you nasty letters that they have been receiving etc.And that is not "insinuating" that you are connected to them in some way? Obviously not as a friend though eh? As a previous posted pointed out,a "friend" would not post another friends buisness on a public forum!

But well.............whatevever!
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 19, 2011, 10:48:AM
This is a long way from your original statement, the one which I originally responded to.

Again you are incorrect though, I have not stated that the Eatons had shown me the letters.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 19, 2011, 11:00:AM
I didn't say they hadn't either, but if you're going to call me out on something, particularly without provocation, then it would seem only fair that you are accurate with your facts.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: chelmsey on May 19, 2011, 11:01:AM
Hartley
Guest
 Re: Relatives
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2011, 12:19:PM »QuoteQuote from: Jackiepreece on February 16, 2011, 12:11:PM
First to Hartley
Where did you get the information about phone calls to relatives and letters you are stating that as a fact where did that come from because I am almost certain that can be disproved you havnt answered that yet before you go on to anything else


I've seen them with my own eyes and the police have seen them.

How are you certain it can be disproved?

Regardless the letters and phone calls are not evidence of anything other than the relationships between JB and his family after he was convicted.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 19, 2011, 11:07:AM
You're highlighting my point, where did I say I was shown them by the Eatons?
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: chelmsey on May 19, 2011, 11:11:AM
I didn't say they hadn't either, but if you're going to call me out on something, particularly without provocation, then it would seem only fair that you are accurate with your facts.

Without provocation? I suggest you go back and read those posts.I wasnt arguing with Jackie on anything.I was being sympathetic regarding JBs relatives if they genuinely believe him guilty.I had said that the Eatons believed JB was where he rightfully should be and innocently thought that you could back me on that,seeings as you havent minded posting regarding the Eatons feelings previously.Big mistake on my part obviously.I should have remebered that it is okay for you to post about them,but not for anyone else on the forum.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 19, 2011, 11:16:AM
I didn't say they hadn't either, but if you're going to call me out on something, particularly without provocation, then it would seem only fair that you are accurate with your facts.

Without provocation? I suggest you go back and read those posts.I wasnt arguing with Jackie on anything.I was being sympathetic regarding JBs relatives if they genuinely believe him guilty.I had said that the Eatons believed JB was where he rightfully should be and innocently thought that you could back me on that,seeings as you havent minded posting regarding the Eatons feelings previously.Big mistake on my part obviously.I should have remebered that it is okay for you to post about them,but not for anyone else on the forum.

No, you specifically referred to me making statements on numerous occasions in one of your posts. It was not a reply to me, I see that as unprovaked. I responded and you've got the arse ache about it, yes I know I shouldn't have sworn and I apologise for that, but my responses stand.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: chelmsey on May 19, 2011, 11:25:AM
I didn't say they hadn't either, but if you're going to call me out on something, particularly without provocation, then it would seem only fair that you are accurate with your facts.

Without provocation? I suggest you go back and read those posts.I wasnt arguing with Jackie on anything.I was being sympathetic regarding JBs relatives if they genuinely believe him guilty.I had said that the Eatons believed JB was where he rightfully should be and innocently thought that you could back me on that,seeings as you havent minded posting regarding the Eatons feelings previously.Big mistake on my part obviously.I should have remebered that it is okay for you to post about them,but not for anyone else on the forum.

No, you specifically referred to me making statements on numerous occasions in one of your posts. It was not a reply to me, I see that as unprovaked. I responded and you've got the arse ache about it, yes I know I shouldn't have sworn and I apologise for that, but my responses stand.

and so do mine. making an innocent mistake with wording is much more acceptable than playing around with wording......in my opinion.
Title: Re: Have the relatives petitioned to have everything released under pii
Post by: Hartley on May 19, 2011, 11:33:AM
and so do mine. making an innocent mistake with wording is much more acceptable than playing around with wording......in my opinion.

I'm not playing around with anything, if you want to accuse me of something or suggest I said or did something then I will reply as I see fit.

Whilst this is all completely irrelevant and meaningless, it's these exact same type of mistakes regarding various bits of evidence to do with JB's case which get misquoted and misquoted until they bear no relation to the original.

Anyway, if you'll agree to disagree and we'll leave this here and move on?