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Title: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: mike tesko on May 10, 2011, 09:44:PM
bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: andrea on May 10, 2011, 09:52:PM
who wrote this mike?
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: John on May 10, 2011, 09:53:PM
Who is the author of this report as no name is attached to it?

Sorry Andrea...great minds and all that!!  :)
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: mike tesko on May 10, 2011, 09:55:PM
who wrote this mike?
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Please bear with me, there are lots of pages to upload to the server...
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: mike tesko on May 10, 2011, 09:55:PM
Who is the author of this report as no name is attached to it?

Sorry Andrea...great minds and all that!!  :)
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Please bear with me, there are lots of pages to upload to the server...
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: mike tesko on May 10, 2011, 10:38:PM
More from Report:-
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: mike tesko on May 10, 2011, 10:47:PM
I will update the remaining pages of the report during the course of tomorrow:-
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: John on May 10, 2011, 11:05:PM
I take it this is your handy work Mike?
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: Reader on May 11, 2011, 03:03:AM
It's not mike tesko's work, else it would contain far more typing errors.
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: tonyb on May 11, 2011, 01:14:PM
I...agree... In my opinion... it's not Mike's work. Not enough... for Mike... .  ;) Sorry in advance ... Mike :)
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: John on May 11, 2011, 01:16:PM
Well it seems to be a biased report based on theories and supposition and certainly not one a professional would advance.
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: Roch on May 11, 2011, 08:51:PM
I was looking forward to the next installment.  Sharp writing about Crispy. 
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: andrea on May 11, 2011, 09:49:PM
the author of this report gets 2 important things wrong, police entered the farmhouse at 7.30/5  not 6.30 as the author claims.


sheila wasnt found at the foot of the bed either, as we know she found at the side of it.
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: John on May 12, 2011, 03:27:AM
There are far too many false inferences and presumptions in the report for it to be worth anything.
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: grahameb on May 12, 2011, 09:21:AM
I was looking forward to the next installment.  Sharp writing about Crispy.
Wonder why they names the dog Crispy? Did he get too cclose to the fire perhaps?  ;D
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: mike tesko on May 12, 2011, 09:36:AM
There are far too many false inferences and presumptions in the report for it to be worth anything.
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If you took any of the information that was used and relied upon to support the prosecution of Jeremy at his trial, you could say the very same things about that, it was all speculation, and theory, there was nothing concrete which proved beyond doubt that Jeremy killed anyone...
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: John on May 12, 2011, 12:57:PM
I don't agree Mike, there is lots of evidence from many individuals which brought together a credible circumstantial case. Jeremy did himself no favours whatsoever in the way he conducted himself immediately after the murders.

I have tried to put myself in his position and I cannot really say that what he did was appropriate, can you??
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: mike tesko on May 12, 2011, 01:27:PM
I don't agree Mike, there is lots of evidence from many individuals which brought together a credible circumstantial case. Jeremy did himself no favours whatsoever in the way he conducted himself immediately after the murders.

I have tried to put myself in his position and I cannot really say that what he did was appropriate, can you??
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Is there a recognized way we are supposed to behave when something like this happens?
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: mike tesko on May 12, 2011, 01:28:PM
More from the report:-
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: John on May 12, 2011, 01:29:PM
I don't agree Mike, there is lots of evidence from many individuals which brought together a credible circumstantial case. Jeremy did himself no favours whatsoever in the way he conducted himself immediately after the murders.

I have tried to put myself in his position and I cannot really say that what he did was appropriate, can you??
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Is there a recognized way we are supposed to behave when something like this happens?

Yes Mike...its called mourning...not partying!

I am not in the least surprised that the extended family took umbrage at Jeremy, what the hell was he thinking or was it...  £££££££££££££'s   a new Porsche, a new restaurant etc etc..

I have never heard any comment that he was concerned about saving the harvest...I wonder why?
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: mike tesko on May 12, 2011, 01:32:PM
I don't agree Mike, there is lots of evidence from many individuals which brought together a credible circumstantial case. Jeremy did himself no favours whatsoever in the way he conducted himself immediately after the murders.

I have tried to put myself in his position and I cannot really say that what he did was appropriate, can you??
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Is there a recognized way we are supposed to behave when something like this happens?

Yes Mike...its called mourning...not partying!
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Well, I think there is enough evidence available to show that Jeremy was not partying all the time as some allege, there is ample evidence from a great number of people that Jeremy was mourning, and he was prescribed Valium by his doctor, so it may be misleading trying to suggest that he was partying all of the time...
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: John on May 12, 2011, 01:34:PM
I don't agree Mike, there is lots of evidence from many individuals which brought together a credible circumstantial case. Jeremy did himself no favours whatsoever in the way he conducted himself immediately after the murders.

I have tried to put myself in his position and I cannot really say that what he did was appropriate, can you??
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Is there a recognized way we are supposed to behave when something like this happens?

Yes Mike...its called mourning...not partying!
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Well, I think there is enough evidence available to show that Jeremy was not partying all the time as some allege, there is ample evidence from a great number of people that Jeremy was mourning, and he was prescribed Valium by his doctor, so it may be misleading trying to suggest that he was partying all of the time...

I didn't say 'all of the time'.   Point is, one party is one too many at such a time and as for holidays abroad, unheard of in such terrible circumstances.

Who arranged the funerals anyway?
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: mike tesko on May 12, 2011, 01:34:PM
I don't agree Mike, there is lots of evidence from many individuals which brought together a credible circumstantial case. Jeremy did himself no favours whatsoever in the way he conducted himself immediately after the murders.

I have tried to put myself in his position and I cannot really say that what he did was appropriate, can you??
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Is there a recognized way we are supposed to behave when something like this happens?

Yes Mike...its called mourning...not partying!

I am not in the least surprised that the extended family took umbrage at Jeremy, what the hell was he thinking or was it...  £££££££££££££'s   a new Porsche, a new restaurant etc etc..

I have never heard any comment that he was concerned about saving the harvest...I wonder why?
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Well, before you start getting carried away with yourself, ask yourself what the relatives were doing trying to conceal for the fact that but for Jeremy getting convicted of these murders, he would have owned the farm that Peter and Ann Eaton lived on...
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: Hartley on May 12, 2011, 01:39:PM
Well, before you start getting carried away with yourself, ask yourself what the relatives were doing trying to conceal for the fact that but for Jeremy getting convicted of these murders, he would have owned the farm that Peter and Ann Eaton lived on...

Are you suggesting June & Neville owned Oak Farm?
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: John on May 12, 2011, 01:42:PM
I don't agree Mike, there is lots of evidence from many individuals which brought together a credible circumstantial case. Jeremy did himself no favours whatsoever in the way he conducted himself immediately after the murders.

I have tried to put myself in his position and I cannot really say that what he did was appropriate, can you??
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Is there a recognized way we are supposed to behave when something like this happens?

Yes Mike...its called mourning...not partying!

I am not in the least surprised that the extended family took umbrage at Jeremy, what the hell was he thinking or was it...  £££££££££££££'s   a new Porsche, a new restaurant etc etc..

I have never heard any comment that he was concerned about saving the harvest...I wonder why?
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Well, before you start getting carried away with yourself, ask yourself what the relatives were doing trying to conceal for the fact that but for Jeremy getting convicted of these murders, he would have owned the farm that Peter and Ann Eaton lived on...

I believe they call it self interest.  Jeremy knows all about that doesn't he?
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: Alias on May 12, 2011, 01:43:PM
I don't agree Mike, there is lots of evidence from many individuals which brought together a credible circumstantial case. Jeremy did himself no favours whatsoever in the way he conducted himself immediately after the murders.

I have tried to put myself in his position and I cannot really say that what he did was appropriate, can you??
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Is there a recognized way we are supposed to behave when something like this happens?

I lost a boyfriend when I was 22 years old. We had planned to get married, we were very much in love. He died and it was a terrible blow, obviously.
Guess what? I ate meals, I went to the cinema, I even partied - and that much more than I normally would. I needed to get my mind off the horrible thing that had happened to me. I couldn't just sit at home grieving, Impossible, I would have gone insane.
I don't think this partying thing with Jeremy proves a thing. I think he reacted as a lot of other young people would do - including myself, as you can see.
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: John on May 12, 2011, 01:46:PM
I don't agree Mike, there is lots of evidence from many individuals which brought together a credible circumstantial case. Jeremy did himself no favours whatsoever in the way he conducted himself immediately after the murders.

I have tried to put myself in his position and I cannot really say that what he did was appropriate, can you??
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Is there a recognized way we are supposed to behave when something like this happens?

I lost a boyfriend when I was 22 years old. We had planned to get married, we were very much in love. He died and it was a terrible blow, obviously.
Guess what? I ate meals, I went to the cinema, I even partied - and that much more than I normally would. I needed to get my mind off the horrible thing that had happened to me. I couldn't just sit at home grieving, Impossible, I would have gone insane.
I don't think this partying thing with Jeremy proves a thing. I think he reacted as a lot of other young people would do - including myself, as you can see.

But you didn't tell half the village before hand that you hated him and wished him dead...now be honest?
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: Jackiepreece on May 12, 2011, 01:48:PM
John I am still waiting for your reply when you stated Jeremy agreed to some of the things mugford said

Xxxx reply John xxxxxxX

Why have you just lied about jeremy buying a porche you know that is a complete lie retract that right now John
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: mike tesko on May 12, 2011, 01:48:PM
Funny how not one photograph that was taken of Jeremy after he lost his family which showed him in a poor light, laughing, and enjoying himself - there is no evidence to support any suggestion that he was out to constantly have a good time after the deaths, its just speculation...
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: Alias on May 12, 2011, 01:50:PM
I don't agree Mike, there is lots of evidence from many individuals which brought together a credible circumstantial case. Jeremy did himself no favours whatsoever in the way he conducted himself immediately after the murders.

I have tried to put myself in his position and I cannot really say that what he did was appropriate, can you??
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Is there a recognized way we are supposed to behave when something like this happens?

I lost a boyfriend when I was 22 years old. We had planned to get married, we were very much in love. He died and it was a terrible blow, obviously.
Guess what? I ate meals, I went to the cinema, I even partied - and that much more than I normally would. I needed to get my mind off the horrible thing that had happened to me. I couldn't just sit at home grieving, Impossible, I would have gone insane.
I don't think this partying thing with Jeremy proves a thing. I think he reacted as a lot of other young people would do - including myself, as you can see.

But you didn't tell half the village before hand that you hated him and wished him dead...now be honest?

Of course not. Don´t be silly.
Did any of the villagers testify this against Jeremy - or is it just gossip?
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: Hartley on May 12, 2011, 01:50:PM
John I am still waiting for your reply when you stated Jeremy agreed to some of the things mugford said

Xxxx reply John xxxxxxX

Why have you just lied about jeremy buying a porche you know that is a complete lie retract that right now John

Jackie I think you would make a fantastic traffic warden.  ::)

He can reply, or not reply or whatever he wants, perhaps you need to turn your confrontation meter down a notch or two?
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: mike tesko on May 12, 2011, 01:51:PM
Well, before you start getting carried away with yourself, ask yourself what the relatives were doing trying to conceal for the fact that but for Jeremy getting convicted of these murders, he would have owned the farm that Peter and Ann Eaton lived on...

Are you suggesting June & Neville owned Oak Farm?
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Relatives and the executor of the Bamber estates kept the details out of the wills so that the relatives benefited secretly (and unlawfully)...
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: Hartley on May 12, 2011, 01:53:PM
Of course not. Don´t be silly.
Did any of the villagers testify this against Jeremy - or is it just gossip?

Well just gossip really I suppose (villages are great for gossip), plus the newspapers are tv reports probably went a long way to making peoples minds up.
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: John on May 12, 2011, 01:54:PM
John I am still waiting for your reply when you stated Jeremy agreed to some of the things mugford said

Xxxx reply John xxxxxxX

Why have you just lied about jeremy buying a porche you know that is a complete lie retract that right now John

It's not a lie and you know it Jackie.
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: Hartley on May 12, 2011, 01:58:PM
Relatives and the executor of the Bamber estates kept the details out of the wills so that the relatives benefited secretly (and unlawfully)...

Based on that letter alone, I don't see it, it doesn't appear to be the case at all.
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: John on May 12, 2011, 02:09:PM
Where exactly does the unlawful bit come in because I cannot see anything unlawful in helping someone out to buy a bit of land?
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: smiffy on May 12, 2011, 02:29:PM
john...what was it you got convicted for...can you remind people

how many multi user names you had or have so far on this forum john...quite a few...
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: Hartley on May 12, 2011, 02:36:PM
john...what was it you got convicted for...can you remind people

how many multi user names you had or have so far on this forum john...quite a few...

Smiffy and John, get a room will ya?

See here:
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,802.0.html
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: Alias on May 12, 2011, 02:37:PM
john...what was it you got convicted for...can you remind people

how many multi user names you had or have so far on this forum john...quite a few...

Smiffy and John, get a room will ya?

See here:
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,802.0.html

+1 Hartley. Wonderful idea!  ;)
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: John on May 12, 2011, 03:32:PM
I make it my policy not go into strange rooms with perverts, spammers and child murderers!   ;D
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: Hartley on May 12, 2011, 04:29:PM
I make it my policy not go into strange rooms with perverts, spammers and child murderers!   ;D

Groan.....  ;) You two are doomed then, either that or everyone else is.  :D
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: John on May 12, 2011, 04:32:PM
best just use the ignore button...works wonders with cowards!
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: smiffy on May 13, 2011, 12:16:AM
I make it my policy not go into strange rooms with perverts, spammers and child murderers!   ;D

hmm so he(john) goes into rooms he knows with perverts...like his brother.....
you been in prison john...so you went in strange rooms then with perverts , spammers and child murderers did you.

I am happy not to ever meet you..there are plenty of nice decent people in the world I would spend time meeting.


2 brothers...both criminals...says a lot eh john..oink oink
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yeah  I am more than satisfied some dodgy unlawful goings on were involved as shown.
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: andrea on May 13, 2011, 08:20:AM
smiffy and john, when will you 2 give it up, and stop the silly comments to each other on here?

hartley kindly set up a thread so you could both thrash your differences out on there, PLEASE leave it OFF the case threads and go on there, we dont want to hear it, you could both be called shirley and wear womens underwear for all i care, just take the personal stuff else where.
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: Roch on July 11, 2011, 11:04:PM
Any further installments available for this document?  Who wrote it?  We never did find out.
Title: Re: bit by bit, the case which had been falsified against Jeremy, became exposed...
Post by: andrea on July 12, 2011, 01:35:AM
quiet on here, am i alone  :-\