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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on April 27, 2011, 11:12:PM

Title: Proof that DS "Stan" Jones, took an exhibit, marked SBJ/2 on 7th August 1985...
Post by: mike tesko on April 27, 2011, 11:12:PM
Proof that DS "Stan" Jones, took an exhibit, marked SBJ/2 on 7th August 1985

Members of this forum will see that Exhibit SBJ/2 was a photograph that was taken in the kitchen at whf, by DS "Stan" Jones, on 7th August 1985, and this entry in the MPR, is followed by two additional entries, relating to statements made by Jeremy to the police, one dated 7th August 1985, and a second one dated 8th August 1985...

It must follow therefore, that DS "Stan" Jones, seized the silencer, marked SBJ/1 from the scene on 7th August 1985, since DS Jones also took possession of two further exhibits marked SBJ/3 and SBJ/4, on 7th August 1985...

No official record exists to confirm or prove that DS Jones took photographs at the scene as part of this investigation, except this one - and as can be seen EP took steps to destroy it, without notifying anyone about it, or to what it related to?
Title: Re: Proof that DS "Stan" Jones, took an exhibit, marked SBJ/2 on 7th August 1985...
Post by: smiffy on April 27, 2011, 11:25:PM
hmm them old telephones...perfect for fingerprints...
or is it no reportable result ? or not disclosed or not tested...?
Title: Re: Proof that DS "Stan" Jones, took an exhibit, marked SBJ/2 on 7th August 1985...
Post by: mike tesko on April 27, 2011, 11:44:PM
According to the official version of events, the only crime scene photographs that were taken at the scene on 7th August 1985, were taken by PC David Bird (SOC) so why did DS Jones taken this (SBJ/2) one in the kitchen where the body of the female was reportedly found by the police upon entry?

Why was it felt necessary to destroy this photograph in 1991?

If exhibit SBJ/2 existed at the scene from 7th August 1985, then exhibit SBJ/1, the silencer, which was recovered by the same police officer, must also have been seized at the scene on that same date, five days before Peter Eaton handed him the second silencer (DB/1) on the evening of 12th August 1985...

Why is there no official record that DS "Stan" Jones, took a crime scene picture in the kitchen at whf on 7th August 1985, other than this one in the original Essex police MPR that was compiled at a time when the police were treating this matter as four murders and a suicide??
Title: Re: Proof that DS "Stan" Jones, took an exhibit, marked SBJ/2 on 7th August 1985...
Post by: mike tesko on April 28, 2011, 12:23:AM
Lets also not forget that on 9th August 1985, DS "Stan" Jones, and DCI "aff" Jones, went to see Jeremy at his cottage to speak to him about the silencer being fitted to the guns barrel on the evening of 6th August 1985 - this was four days before Peter Eaton handed DS ones the silencer that David Boutflour supposedly found in the gun cupboard on 10th August 1985?

Police obviously knew about the silencer, before the relatives found one...


Title: Re: Proof that DS "Stan" Jones, took an exhibit, marked SBJ/2 on 7th August 1985...
Post by: smiffy on August 17, 2011, 09:20:AM
If 2 sets of photographs were produced by the same officer to portray different scenarios for the cover up then by using a different officer to list certain photographs under would be a tactic to help hide paper trails later of what had been done.
On the phone issue...depending on the storyline being persued we may have the telephone appear clean in one set of photos but bloodied in another. The clean phone photo used to persue JB and the bloodied one used to persue the Sheila did it scenario.
As they went for the JB did it they may at a later time wish to destroy the bloodied phone photograph titled SBJ 2 rather than ones that existed under DB listings.
Title: Re: Proof that DS "Stan" Jones, took an exhibit, marked SBJ/2 on 7th August 1985...
Post by: chochokeira on August 17, 2011, 09:44:AM
According to the official version of events, the only crime scene photographs that were taken at the scene on 7th August 1985, were taken by PC David Bird (SOC) so why did DS Jones taken this (SBJ/2) one in the kitchen where the body of the female was reportedly found by the police upon entry?

Why was it felt necessary to destroy this photograph in 1991?

If exhibit SBJ/2 existed at the scene from 7th August 1985, then exhibit SBJ/1, the silencer, which was recovered by the same police officer, must also have been seized at the scene on that same date, five days before Peter Eaton handed him the second silencer (DB/1) on the evening of 12th August 1985...

Why is there no official record that DS "Stan" Jones, took a crime scene picture in the kitchen at whf on 7th August 1985, other than this one in the original Essex police MPR that was compiled at a time when the police were treating this matter as four murders and a suicide??


Hmmm. Interesting.