Jeremy Bamber Forum
JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on June 01, 2015, 08:27:AM
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The batch of ELEY .22LR ammunition used in the shootings belonged to AP. So, it is about time we took a closer look at him...
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Did AP have a financial incentive to kill the family and frame his cousin Jetemy - well, he owed Ralp Bamber £50, 000 which borrowed for property improvement and refurbishment. The property in question being a 5 bedroom house which had belonged to Ralph Bambers parents in the Guildford area. The house had been left in his mothers will to Ralph but Ralph decided to givr his nephew and niece a 25% share each in it. The house wad turned into five apartments hence why AP borrowed the money grom Ralph intending to repay him once the housing market picked up. The money never got paid back
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Did AP have a financial incentive to kill the family and frame his cousin Jeremy - well, he owed Ralph Bamber £50, 000 which borrowed for property improvement and refurbishment. The property in question being a 5 bedroom house which had belonged to Ralph Bambers parents in the Guildford area. The house had been left in his mothers will to Ralph but Ralph decided to give his nephew and niece a 25% share each in it. The house was turned into five apartments hence why AP borrowed the money from Ralph intending to repay him once the housing market picked up. The money never got paid back
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The guy certainly loved money having sued a sporting newspaper and also the family for having tried to fleece him out of money regarding farmland some 10 years after the tragedy. Sued his own family !!
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The guy certainly loved money having sued a sporting newspaper and also the family for having tried to fleece him out of money regarding farmland some 10 years after the tragedy. Sued his own family !!
Jeremy tried to sue his own family - he certainly loved money!
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Jeremy tried to sue his own family - he certainly loved money!
For HIS OWN money back,yes.
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For HIS OWN money back,yes.
It wasn't his money, he lost the right to it when murdered his family.
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It wasn't his money, he lost the right to it when murdered his family.
He obviously didn't know he'd be imprisoned for something he didn't do,plus also being unaware of its connotations regarding forfeiting which was his own to begin with. That's how naïve he was.
It wouldn't have been going on fancy dining and champagne this time,but ironically to fight his cause as to him being unfairly where he was.
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He obviously didn't know he'd be imprisoned for something he didn't do,plus also being unaware of its connotations regarding forfeiting which was his own to begin with. That's how naïve he was.
It wouldn't have been going on fancy dining and champagne this time,but ironically to fight his cause as to him being unfairly where he was.
No, that's how GREEDY he was.
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The batch of ELEY .22LR ammunition used in the shootings belonged to AP. So, it is about time we took a closer look at him...
Nothing points to AP's rifle, moderator or ammunition being used. The examination of the casings and bullets revealed they had all been fired by the Anschutz and were all the same as the ammunition purchased by Nevill and the plaint and blood were on/in Nevill's moderator. Furthermore, all available evidence indicates AP's rifle was taken away from the scene after his last visit. AP didn't have any Eley ammunition, he didn't even know Eley is an English company, he assumed it was German like the Anschutz. His ammunition of choice was Winchester, that is the brand of ammunition he had with his weapon in its case.
You ignore all the evidence in the case to pretend the facts are different. That is very telling- the only way you are able to assert Jeremy's innocence is to change the facts and make up different ones...
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Ralph purchased and was sold 500 rounds of .22 subsonic ammunition, the dealers register entry, and Entry in the firearm certificate do not specify it was English ammunition...
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Ralph purchased and was sold 500 rounds of .22 subsonic ammunition, the dealers register entry, and Entry in the firearm certificate do not specify it was English ammunition...
The seller says it was Eley 22LR subsonic Hollow Points. The 300 plus rounds of unused 22LR ammunition at WHF was Eley 22LR subsonic Hollow Points. Fletcher said the spent ammunition was he same.
You have no evidence to refute any of this- just unsupported allegations that do not make sense.
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The seller says it was Eley 22LR subsonic Hollow Points. The 300 plus rounds of unused 22LR ammunition at WHF was Eley 22LR subsonic Hollow Points. Fletcher said the spent ammunition was he same.
You have no evidence to refute any of this- just unsupported allegations that do not make sense.
(1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Long_Rifle#Cartridge_length
Cartridge length
A .22 short, .22 LR, .22 Winchester Magnum, and a .22 Hornet
The .22 LR uses a straight-walled case. Depending upon the type and the feed mechanism employed, a firearm which is chambered for .22 LR may also be able to safely chamber and fire the following shorter rimfire cartridges:
.22 BB, in cap, short, or long lengths
.22 CB, in cap, short, long, and long rifle lengths
.22 short
.22 long
The .22 long rifle may also be used in firearms chambered for the obsolete .22 Extra Long.
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(1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Long_Rifle#Cartridge_length
Cartridge length
A .22 short, .22 LR, .22 Winchester Magnum, and a .22 Hornet
The .22 LR uses a straight-walled case. Depending upon the type and the feed mechanism employed, a firearm which is chambered for .22 LR may also be able to safely chamber and fire the following shorter rimfire cartridges:
.22 BB, in cap, short, or long lengths
.22 CB, in cap, short, long, and long rifle lengths
.22 short
.22 long
The .22 long rifle may also be used in firearms chambered for the obsolete .22 Extra Long.
.22 long is the only one of these that the Anschutz could handle. The other cases would not feed correctly. The 22 long and 22LR share the same case. The 22 long simply has less powder and a smaller bullet. They didn't make 22 long in Hollow Points only lead round nose and they were known as "Eley Z .22 long"
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Read what is recorded in the bill of sale, the dealers firearms register, and Ralph Banners firearm certificate - the ammunition sold to Ralph Bamber is not described as you would dishonestly have us all believe...
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Read what is recorded in the bill of sale, the dealers firearms register, and Ralph Banners firearm certificate - the ammunition sold to Ralph Bamber is not described as you would dishonestly have us all believe...
The one providing a dishonest description is you. You are telling us something other than 22LR was purchased though that is the cartridge his weapon was chambered in. You previously suggested 22 short was purchased to load into the chamber by hand instead of using the magazine. Where do you come up with such absurd suggestions?
You haven't produced Nevill's firearms certificate. The gun dealer says he recorded 3500 rounds of Eley 22 long rifle subsonic hollow points on it:
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In the meantime the register you posted notes the ammunition purchased was Eley subsonic hollow points. The only subsonic hollow points sold by Eley at he time were 22LR. They made no subsonic hollow points in other 22 sized cartridges.
The 300 plus unfired rifle rounds collected from WHF were Eley 22LR subsonic Hollow point.
You are fighting a losing battle that only serves to undermine your credibility.
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Remington / Eley cartridges were not 40 grain in weight - what can you tell us about this particular type of Cartridge?
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Remington / Eley cartridges were not 40 grain in weight - what can you tell us about this particular type of Cartridge?
In this century Remington decided to partner with Eley, they asked Eley to manufacture ammo for them to sell in the US and to co-brand it for them. It is simply Eley ammo in a box that says Remington and Eley on it. These are all 40 grain, are for US sale and were not even around at the time of the murders. Eley sells its own Ammo int he UK the co-branding is for other markets.