Jeremy Bamber Forum
JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on May 04, 2015, 07:08:AM
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According to the contents of PC Delgado's witness statement, dated, 7th August 1985, there was only pooled blood on the kitchen floor near Ralph Bambers head, no clothing, or a towel - thus confirming that the kitchen scene was re-arranged after the first group of firearms officers left the farmhouse at around 9am...
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Alternatively, Sheila had placed the clothing, the seat cushions, and the towel in position there and PC Delgado forgot to mention seeing those items there...
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The towel on the floor shows clear signs that whoever placed it there had dripped blood onto it, and this would be consistent with the police having used this towel to soak up blood from the original neck wound inflicted in the kitchen after police shot her upon entry, hence why there is not much horizontal blood down the front of her nightdress...
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Dripped blood fell onto the towel on the kitchen floor...
Now, how very strange that this crucial bloodstained towels blood group activity has never been mentioned? Sheila's blood, of course, thus supporting the fact that she was originally shot downstairs in the kitchen...
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During the struggle in the main kitchen between PS Woodcock and Sheila, it remains a possibility that she fell against a wooden stool or a chair, and was thus in a sitting position when PS Woodcock shot her with his rifle...
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So the killer was dripping blood. Another clear indication that it wasn't Jeremy. Unless some bright spark will come up with the fact that his nose was pouring with blood from being punched by his father ::)
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You failed to provide any proof of stage managing the scene. All you did was try to twist a statement to pretend it means the cushions had not been present originally though the police said the photos represent how things were when they entered the house.
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You failed to provide any proof of stage managing the scene. All you did was try to twist a statement to pretend it means the cushions had not been present originally though the police said the photos represent how things were when they entered the house.
No they did not - the only reference to members of the raid team being shown photographs was with regard to Sheila Caffells body. None of the raid team have even seen photographs taken in the kitchen, so get your facts right...
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In addition, in one of the raid teams witness statements the kitchen table was overturned with broken crockery on the floor, so god knows how the kitchen table uprighted itself back onto its own four legs, and how everything which appears set on the table top leapt back into position in time for PC Bird to photograph it after 10 O'clock? It should be pretty obvious that the police staged the scene in the kitchen because nobody else had the opportunity to do so...
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Who uprighted the overturned kitchen table and reset the table, with utensils and crockery?
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Who uprighted the overturned kitchen table and reset the table, with utensils and crockery?
Who said the table was overturned?
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Who said the table was overturned?
Cops and the media.
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Cops and the media.
What the media claims is not relevant they were not allowed inside. Police in general means nothing either, which police if any who actually entered the house and thus were witnesses claim to have seen the table turned over?
None of the raid team raised any issues about the kitchen photos reflecting differences from what they saw when they entered the kitchen. So who is the supposed cop(s) who claim they saw the table turned over?
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What the media claims is not relevant they were not allowed inside. Police in general means nothing either, which police if any who actually entered the house and thus were witnesses claim to have seen the table turned over?
None of the raid team raised any issues about the kitchen photos reflecting differences from what they saw when they entered the kitchen. So who is the supposed cop(s) who claim they saw the table turned over?
The police can make up anything of something if they wish,because they can ( it's what they do,they're untouchable )and whatever they come up with goes straight to the waiting press whether it's the truth or not.
The fact that the kitchen looked like a bomb-site must have come from somewhere as it was bandied around about the sugar having been spilled all over the floor,because AE had been keen to find out if there had been any on Sheila's feet.
How could there have been when she was upstairs deceased ? The disarray happened later that morning.
It wasn't made very clear that it was the raid team who entered like a bull in a china shop and not caused by any vicious struggle which allegedly took place between Jeremy and his father.
The firearms team knocked things over when they entered.
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The police can make up anything of something if they wish,because they can ( it's what they do,they're untouchable )and whatever they come up with goes straight to the waiting press whether it's the truth or not.
The fact that the kitchen looked like a bomb-site must have come from somewhere as it was bandied around about the sugar having been spilled all over the floor,because AE had been keen to find out if there had been any on Sheila's feet.
How could there have been when she was upstairs deceased ? The disarray happened later that morning.
It wasn't made very clear that it was the raid team who entered like a bull in a china shop and not caused by any vicious struggle which allegedly took place between Jeremy and his father.
The firearms team knocked things over when they entered.
The Raid Team clearly mentioned which items were disturbed - a few chairs were moved!
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The police can make up anything of something if they wish,because they can ( it's what they do,they're untouchable )and whatever they come up with goes straight to the waiting press whether it's the truth or not.
The fact that the kitchen looked like a bomb-site must have come from somewhere as it was bandied around about the sugar having been spilled all over the floor,because AE had been keen to find out if there had been any on Sheila's feet.
How could there have been when she was upstairs deceased ? The disarray happened later that morning.
It wasn't made very clear that it was the raid team who entered like a bull in a china shop and not caused by any vicious struggle which allegedly took place between Jeremy and his father.
The firearms team knocked things over when they entered.
The inability to provide specifics of who claimed the table was overturned calls into doubt the claim that any police actually claimed such.
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The raid team as I said and as was told to AE.
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The raid team as I said and as was told to AE.
None of the raid team documents posted on this site assert the table was turned over.
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None of the raid team documents posted on this site assert the table was turned over.
They wouldn't,would they ?
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They wouldn't,would they ?
But if none of them say it, where does hte myth come from?
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But if none of them say it, where does hte myth come from?
Any anti that you happen to read,just to give strength to the myth that there was a fierce struggle.
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I feel like I am part of a bad Abbott and Costello who's on first routine imitation:
Mike: Who uprighted the overturned kitchen table and reset the table, with utensils and crockery?
Scipio: Who said the table was overturned?
Lookout: Cops and the media.
Scipio: None of the raid team raised any issues about the kitchen photos reflecting differences from what they saw when they entered the kitchen. So who is the supposed cop(s) who claim they saw the table turned over?
Lookout: The firearms team knocked things over when they entered.
Scipio: The inability to provide specifics of who claimed the table was overturned calls into doubt the claim that any police actually claimed such.
Lookout: The raid team as I said
Scipio: None of the raid team documents posted on this site assert the table was turned over.
Lookout: They wouldn't,would they ?
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I feel like I am part of a bad Abbott and Costello who's on first routine imitation:
Mike: Who uprighted the overturned kitchen table and reset the table, with utensils and crockery?
Scipio: Who said the table was overturned?
Lookout: Cops and the media.
Scipio: None of the raid team raised any issues about the kitchen photos reflecting differences from what they saw when they entered the kitchen. So who is the supposed cop(s) who claim they saw the table turned over?
Lookout: The firearms team knocked things over when they entered.
Scipio: The inability to provide specifics of who claimed the table was overturned calls into doubt the claim that any police actually claimed such.
Lookout: The raid team as I said
Scipio: None of the raid team documents posted on this site assert the table was turned over.
Lookout: They wouldn't,would they ?
It's a strange place when the fact that NO ONE says it, means that it MUST of happened. But these BS myths are so far engrained in the minds of those that want to believe them, it doesn't matter is there is proof or not.
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You can laugh all you like---------but I know I'm going to have the last one.