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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: Adam on January 03, 2015, 08:26:PM
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Not much is known about him. Although Jeremy spent a lot of time with him abroad.
Rumours are Bamber left New Zealand in a hurry after a row with Chris Neville's sister about some money.
Chris Neville also stayed with the Bambers for several months in 1985. If he was still there on the massacre night, surely the massacre attempt would not have been made. Jeremy would not risk going up against two men.
Chris Neville told David Boutflour that Jeremy had a very low regard and lack of respect for June & Neville. Especially June, treating her with contempt and being rude to her.
Bamber has never denied he had a very poor relationship with June. Testifying this in court and agreeing with Mary Mugford's damning testimony. Come to think of it he has not said many complimentary things about Neville either.
Does anyone have any other information on Chris Neville ?
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Here is the thread on Mary Mugford's testimony. Regarding Jeremy & June's relationship.
Jeremy said himself the relationship effectively ended in 1978. Although MM said he never forgave her for sending him to boarding school. So it could be 18 years.
Seven years. Eighteen years. Either way a long time.
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Only because it's all about Jeremy.Try Sheilas' relationship with her mother,for a change !
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If you look at each relation who died and their relationship with the potential killer, it does seem much more likely that Jeremy was the killer -
Jeremy/June - Terrible
Jeremy/ Neville - Volatile
Jeremy/ Sheila - Resentful.
Jeremy / Twins - Vacant.
Sheila /June - Poor
Sheila /Neville - Excellent.
Sheila / Twins - Loving.
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If you look at each relation who died and their relationship with the potential killer, it does seem much more likely that Jeremy was the killer -
Jeremy/June - Terrible
Jeremy/ Neville - Volatile
Jeremy/ Sheila - Resentful.
Jeremy / Twins - Vacant.
Sheila /June - Poor
Sheila /Neville - Excellent.
Sheila / Twins - Loving.
I don´t think you know a thing about their relationships, it is just your opinion. Colin described Sheila´s relationship with her mother as extremely difficult and strained, and regardless of any progress Sheila might have made due to right medication, her condition ALWAYS deteriorated significantly when she was around her parents, especially June.
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I don´t think you know a thing about their relationships, it is just your opinion. Colin described Sheila´s relationship with her mother as extremely difficult and strained, and regardless of any progress Sheila might have made due to right medication, her condition ALWAYS deteriorated significantly when she was around her parents, especially June.
Well I am going by what I have read. As everyone is.
Bamber did not have a good word to say about any of his family the years before the massacre. But lots of bad words.
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I suggest you buy Claire Powells' anti-Bamber book and read what she writes about Sheila,before sounding off all the time about Jeremy.
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He didn't have many good words to say afterwards either. And still doesn't.
Telling the police to kill Crispy. Then telling the police Sheila had committed child abuse. Which was a lie.
But he did groan at the funeral. AE said in her WS she was not convinced at Bambers crying the day after the massacre. If it was like the funeral tears, she was right.
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Didn't Sheila call the twins the devil's children and that they tried to have sex with them?
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I suggest you buy Claire Powells' anti-Bamber book and read what she writes about Sheila,before sounding off all the time about Jeremy.
I know Sheila & June did not get along.
It must be tough having a mother you see every few months. Who is paying for everything while you live in London.
Anyway, does Claire Powell's book mention Chris Neville ?
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He didn't have many good words to say afterwards either.
Telling the police to kill Crispy. Then telling the police Sheila had committed child abuse. Which was a lie.
But he did groan at the funeral. AE said in her WS she was not convinced at Bambers crying the day after the massacre. If it was like the funeral tears, she was right.
As you like books as your source read Colin Caffells . He states quite clearly that Sheila was the one that had a bad relationship with her Mother . He also says that Sheila was the one who did not like Jeremy . He felt that Jeremy did most of the time care for his sister. As he regarded himself close to Jeremy when he first went out with Sheila perhaps you might find it useful for a broader picture.
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I know Sheila & June did not get along.
It must be tough having a mother you see every few months. Who is paying for everything while you live in London.
Anyway, does Claire Powell's book mention Chris Neville ?
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Are you going to finish the unanswered questions on the other thread first about the logs?
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Didn't Sheila call the twins the devil's children and that they tried to have sex with them?
I have no doubt Sheila loved her sons, but her thoughts about them are highly disturbing. Women haters - especially Nicholas, poor little thing, devil´s children who were plotting to rape and kill her!
So her relationship to her children was loving and disturbing.
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I heard you first time,and the answer to your last question is NO because she writes so much about Sheilas' escapades that she couldn't fit much else in.
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I have no doubt Sheila loved her sons, but her thoughts about them are highly disturbing. Women haters - especially Nicholas, poor little thing, devil´s children who were plotting to rape and kill her!
So her relationship to her children was loving and disturbing.
So Alias, Adam's simple statements concerning relationships turns out not to be as simple as he first thought?
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Are you going to finish the unanswered questions on the other thread first about the logs?
The explanation is in my thread post.
Reporting seeing three bodies upstairs means they had not seen Sheila yet. She was behind a bed apparently.
This thread is about Chris Neville. One of several people who reported on the poor relationship Bamber had with his parents.
But as you ask, do you think Sheila went walkabout after shooting herself upstairs.
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Money is not everything or to be honest anything to do with a loving family relationship . Why do you ask questions about Chris Neville - as you say in your first post there are "rumours" have you found any documentation to back up those "rumours"?
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I have no doubt Sheila loved her sons, but her thoughts about them are highly disturbing. Women haters - especially Nicholas, poor little thing, devil´s children who were plotting to rape and kill her!
So her relationship to her children was loving and disturbing.
I know there are conflicting reports about Sheila and the twins.
People testified she was a loving mother. Colin and Freddie saying they could see her attacking June. But not attacking Neville and the twins. Colin saying she would have killed herself with the twins, not away from them .
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So Alias, Adam's simple statements concerning relationships turns out not to be as simple as he first thought?
He is choosing to ignore those very disturbing, and I would say, dangerous, thoughts she had - just like her doctors, BTW; and of course ignore that Colin said that Sheila´s condition invariably deteriorated when she visited WHF. Instead Adam repeatedly calls it "a free holiday".
None of them wanted to be there, not Sheila, not the twins who BEGGED Colin not to go when he had driven them there!
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I know there are conflicting reports about Sheila and the twins.
People testified she was a loving mother. Colin and Freddie saying they could see her attacking June. But not attacking Neville and the twins. Colin saying she would have killed herself with the twins, not away from them .
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The fact that Colin accepted she could kill herself and the twins is disturbing enough don't you think?
Perhaps she was heading back to the twins room when the police broke in and just did not get there?
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The fact that Colin accepted she could kill herself and the twins is disturbing enough don't you think?
Perhaps she was heading back to the twins room when the police broke in and just did not get there?
Colin said that he accepted she could kill herself but not the boys.
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Colin said that he accepted she could kill herself but not the boys.
Sounds as if he almost expected it; she FINALLY did it. That is significant and means that, 1. Sheila threatened to commit suicide. 2. Colin at least suspected that she might.
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Colin said that he accepted she could kill herself but not the boys.
What about brutally beat Neville's head and torso. And shoot him seven times.
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Sounds as if he almost expected it; she FINALLY did it. That is significant and means that, 1. Sheila threatened to commit suicide. 2. Colin at least suspected that she might.
I think that's a firm possibility. Freddie said she had a volatile temper so she may have threatened it if he didn't/did...............................
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Colin said that he accepted she could kill herself but not the boys.
I accept I may be wrong on that but he did not seem to doubt she was responsible for the whole thing until he was told by the family ( before the police ) that there was something going on that he was going to be surprised about.