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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: nugnug on December 14, 2014, 03:48:PM

Title: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: nugnug on December 14, 2014, 03:48:PM
a lot of people have mentioned that sheila was taking her medication but was the medication the problem.

http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=Homicide+and+Suicide+Associated+With+HALOPERIDOL&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=lrCNVIj6EsG0UvLwgPgD&ved=0CCAQgQMwAA

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tz_MdRYNSI0C&pg=PA184&lpg=PA184&dq=Homicide+and+Suicide+Associated+With+HALOPERIDOL&source=bl&ots=U8dQWUHOjF&sig=FW_weUg6eYlN6blhqlFH_UDSvrA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=R7GNVJWyO4P0UuymgvgP&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAg
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: Jan on December 14, 2014, 03:57:PM
a lot of people have mentioned that sheila was taking her medication but was the medication the problem.

http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=Homicide+and+Suicide+Associated+With+HALOPERIDOL&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=lrCNVIj6EsG0UvLwgPgD&ved=0CCAQgQMwAA

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tz_MdRYNSI0C&pg=PA184&lpg=PA184&dq=Homicide+and+Suicide+Associated+With+HALOPERIDOL&source=bl&ots=U8dQWUHOjF&sig=FW_weUg6eYlN6blhqlFH_UDSvrA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=R7GNVJWyO4P0UuymgvgP&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAg


well considering they have associated some suicides/ violence with some much lesser and more common drugs then I would not be surprised .

I am still a bit confused about the actual dose she was on because I found an old post with evidence that she had been given a higher dose rather than a reduced dose . But I have no expertise in this area as to what the effect would be. Or what the affect would be combining the prescribed drugs with recreational drugs.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: nugnug on December 14, 2014, 04:00:PM
there seems to be a fair murders asocated with medication sheila was on.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: Alias on December 14, 2014, 04:03:PM
there seems to be a fair murders asocated with medication sheila was on.

Yes, especially if the drug is abruptly given in smaller doses than previously. Jan, Sheila was on a much lower dose than previously.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: nugnug on December 14, 2014, 04:25:PM
if the medcaion coused ther to do it that would be a very good reason for the doctor who proscribed it not to want it to be her wouldent.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: Alias on December 14, 2014, 04:25:PM
if the medcaion coused ther to do it that would be a very good reason for the doctor who proscribed it not to want it to be her wouldent.

Oh yes, absolutely.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: nugnug on December 14, 2014, 04:34:PM
i think Adams half right it wasn't her illness that caused the murders.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: lookout on December 14, 2014, 05:32:PM
if the medcaion coused ther to do it that would be a very good reason for the doctor who proscribed it not to want it to be her wouldent.





Indeed,nugs. I wonder if that 'll form part of what is being submitted to CCRC. I hope so,because a lot of medication given to those with mental illnesses has had adverse effects such as suicide.

Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: lookout on December 14, 2014, 05:43:PM
Antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs can cause Akathisia. Which is probably what Sheila had--------caused by the drugs she was taking.
In Colins' mothers' statement,when she visited Sheila,pointed out how puffy/bloated her face was on one occasion. This could have been a side-effect,not a pleasant one,that her medication was affecting her.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: nugnug on December 14, 2014, 07:50:PM




Indeed,nugs. I wonder if that 'll form part of what is being submitted to CCRC. I hope so,because a lot of medication given to those with mental illnesses has had adverse effects such as suicide.

im not sure what the legal grounds are for doing that.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: lookout on December 14, 2014, 07:56:PM
im not sure what the legal grounds are for doing that.






The powers that be will probably argue against it. They think they know it all. ::)
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: Jane on December 14, 2014, 07:57:PM
im not sure what the legal grounds are for doing that.


I'm absolutely convinced that she shouldn't have been allowed to leave hospital until they were certain that her medication was stable. I can't imagine that they weren't holding their breath for a while there until the focus changed to Jeremy.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: lookout on December 14, 2014, 07:59:PM
The hospital made a big mistake,April. Nowadays they'd be sued.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: nugnug on December 14, 2014, 08:04:PM

I'm absolutely convinced that she shouldn't have been allowed to leave hospital until they were certain that her medication was stable. I can't imagine that they weren't holding their breath for a while there until the focus changed to Jeremy.

oh they probely were the must of let out a big sigh of relief when he was arrested.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: lookout on December 14, 2014, 08:09:PM
oh they probely were the must of let out a big sigh of relief when he was arrested.





They wouldn't be the only ones either nugs. Already evident.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: nugnug on December 14, 2014, 08:55:PM





The powers that be will probably argue against it. They think they know it all. ::)

i suppose you could say its something the jury should of known about.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: lookout on December 14, 2014, 08:55:PM
Stelazine is another drug that can have side-effects connected to suicide. In fact,the very drugs ( anti-psychotics ) that normally help a patient,can also be damaging.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: Jan on December 15, 2014, 05:47:PM
hope these work :
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: Caroline on December 15, 2014, 06:51:PM
hope these work :

Hi Jan, I can't see the pictures, they look distorted - or is it my lap-top?
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: Alias on December 15, 2014, 06:51:PM
Hi Jan, I can't see the pictures, they look distorted - or is it my lap-top?

No, they are distoted here too.
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: Jane on December 15, 2014, 06:54:PM
Hi Jan, I can't see the pictures, they look distorted - or is it my lap-top?




Nooooo It isn't your lappy but I could be suffering the side effects of an anti psychotic drug I didn't know I'd taken ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: Caroline on December 15, 2014, 07:01:PM



Nooooo It isn't your lappy but I could be suffering the side effects of an anti psychotic drug I didn't know I'd taken ;D ;D ;D ;D

Looks like both Alias and I have had the same one then!  ;D
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: Jan on December 15, 2014, 07:39:PM
Why does it do that!I think I am being watched- intercepted even? ::) ::) ::)

If I link can someone else try/

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,158.msg374.html#msg374
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: Alias on December 15, 2014, 07:52:PM
(http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=158.0;attach=23400;image)

(http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=158.0;attach=23401;image)

(http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=158.0;attach=23402;image)
Title: Re: sheila taking her medication was that the problem
Post by: Jan on December 15, 2014, 08:21:PM
thanks :)