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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: Adam on November 24, 2014, 09:07:PM
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Jeremy stood up and abruptly said to Liz Rimmjngton
This was before he became a suspect. Or rather when he thought he was 'watertight' and it was 'an open & shut case'.
What an earth could he mean ?
He obviously was not referring to events upon meeting the police at WHF. As dozens of police also 'know what really happened that night'.
He could not be referring to the massacre as he was 'sleeping like a log' when Sheila went 'crazy'.
He told the police what he did after receiving Neville's call. So that is also common knowledge.
Any thoughts ?
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Jeremy stood up and abruptly said to Liz Rimmjngton
This was before he became a suspect. Or rather when he thought he was 'watertight' and it was 'an open & shut case'.
What an earth could he mean ?
He obviously was not referring to events upon meeting the police at WHF. As dozens of police also 'know what really happened that night'.
He could not be referring to the massacre as he was sleeping like a log when Sheila went 'crazy'.
He told the police what he did after receiving Neville's call. So that is also common knowledge.
Any thoughts ?
He obviously meant that he was the only witness that his father phoned him to tell him that Sheila had gone crazy and has got the gun. There was unfortunately no one else who could verify his story. In other words he was not looking for an alibi. That is what his words appear to be saying to me at any rate.
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Could also refer to the conversation between the family before Jeremy left after dinner. Only he would know.
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He obviously meant that he was the only witness that his father phoned him to tell him that Sheila had gone crazy and has got the gun. There was unfortunately no one else who could verify his story. In other words he was not looking for an alibi. That is what his words appear to be saying to me at any rate.
Thank you Grahame. I just hope you're holding the hose if my house is on fire. I'll be safe.
For a minute there I thought Jeremy might be trying to discreetly boast about his master plan.
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Thank you Grahame. I just hope you're holding the hose if my house is on fire. I'll be safe.
For a minute there I thought Jeremy might be trying to discreetly boast about his master plan.
Don't worry Adam. If you house were on fire and you were in it I would be one of the first to rush in there and save your pet rabbit. ;D Oh and you of course.
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Could also refer to the conversation between the family before Jeremy left after dinner. Only he would know.
So 'only he really knows' means he has not told the police, courts and appeal courts what happened at supper time.
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So 'only he really knows' means he has not told the police, courts and appeal courts what happened at supper time.
No he means that only he knows, but although he told the police they don't really know. They only know what he told them.
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So 'only he really knows' means he has not told the police, courts and appeal courts what happened at supper time.
I didn´t say that.
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Don't worry Adam. If you house were on fire and you were in it I would be one of the first to rush in there and save your pet rabbit. ;D Oh and you of course.
Please prioritise my teddy bear.
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another "scenario" liz was not being sympathetic and he was explaining that only he knew what he had been through finding out all his family had been killed.
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Please prioritise my teddy bear.
Ok Ill save your teddy and then look for you. ;)
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another "scenario" liz was not being sympathetic and he was explaining that only he knew what he had been through finding out all his family had been killed.
Well Jeremy abruptly stood up and said this. A strange thing to do and say if Liz Rimmington was being unsympathetic.
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Well Jeremy abruptly stood up and said this. A strange thing to do and say if Liz Rimmington was being unsympathetic.
Do you have a context? Otherwise it is just fumbling in the dark. But of course it is easier to twist words without a context.
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'The family thought Sheila was going back to London. But I am the only one who knew she was going in the nut house'. Said Jeremy.
Liz rose and said she was going to bed.
Jeremy then said with a blank expression 'anyway, I'm the only person who knows what happened that night'.
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'The family thought Sheila was going back to London. But I am the only one who knew she was going in the nut house'. Said Jeremy.
Liz rose and said she was going to bed.
Jeremy then said with a blank expression 'anyway, I'm the only person who knows what happened that night'.
Is this from Wilkes´ book? Sounds like it.
If you can dig this out from Lis´s statements, if I can see it in her words, I will discuss it, Not with quotes from an author who was not there.
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Earlier in the evening Jeremy, Julie, Brett and Liz had gone to dinner.
The talk was mainly about the type of car and jet ski he was going to buy. Together with plans to buy a bar or restaraunt (loved farming).
He later told Liz his life would be very different after the deaths. It was now a lot less likely he would be marrying Julie.
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How would Jeremy know Sheila was 'going in the nut house' ? No one else knew.
He was not on speaking terms with June, had robbed from Neville and lived miles away from Sheila. Thought Colin Caffell would know beforehand.
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Put a sock in it.
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Is this from Wilkes´ book? Sounds like it.
If you can dig this out from Lis´s statements, if I can see it in her words, I will discuss it, Not with quotes from an author who was not there.
Yes lets have a look at the ancient document . From the time it happened.
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How would Jeremy know Sheila was 'going in the nut house' ? No one else knew.
He was not on speaking terms with June, had robbed from Neville and lived miles away from Sheila. Thought Colin Caffell would know beforehand.
I don´t know if he ever said that - it is from a book. He probably didn´t.
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Wilkes's book said he interviewed everyone. Except Julie.
That would include Brett. Who was with Jeremy a lot after arriving into England, just after the massacre for (hopefully) a long jolly up.
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How would Jeremy know Sheila was 'going in the nut house' ? No one else knew.
He was not on speaking terms with June, had robbed from Neville and lived miles away from Sheila. Thought Colin Caffell would know beforehand.
So you are saying that is a fact ? How would you know?
You are resorting to sarcasm as usual . Show us a source that Sheila was due to be hospitalised ( again) then we might believe you . the book is not the source
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So you are saying that is a fact ? How would you know?
You are resorting to sarcasm as usual . Show us a source that Sheila was due to be hospitalised ( again) then we might believe you . the book is not the source
There is no source. Jeremy was lying.
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There is no source. Jeremy was lying.
He's where you want him to be,so what's your problem ? What more do you want ?
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Adam
Seek help for your attitude
It's disgraceful
Now I know why I haven't and won't read any of the books
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He's one of those horrible vindictive individuals Jackie. Nasty,nasty.
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The family thought Sheila was going back to London. But I am the only one who knew she was going in the nut house'. Said Jeremy.
'Nut house' ? Good to see Jeremy not speaking ill of the (recently) dead.
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That's one of your ugly phrases,not Jeremys'.
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The family thought Sheila was going back to London. But I am the only one who knew she was going in the nut house'. Said Jeremy.
'Nut house' ? Good to see Jeremy not speaking ill of the (recently) dead.
Jeremy was quoted or misquoted as having said 'nut house' we have no idea this was a direct quote at all. If he did say 'nut house' most of the population back in the 1980s used that or similar expressions, certainly in their early 20s. It may not have been politically correct but it was certainly not evidence pointing to Jeremy Bamber's guilt :-[.
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I dont know why Adam has to keep on repeating these derogatory terms as if it proves something. If you check the one original notebook from the day he does not say this. And this quote is hearsay from a book - so possibly may not even be true .
A man is not supposed to be tried on his character - he is supposed to be tried on facts.
It seems to me that by repeating these terms over and over again Adam is trying to make some sort of point .
Perhaps he would like to clarify what that point is?
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I dont know why Adam has to keep on repeating these derogatory terms as if it proves something. If you check the one original notebook from the day he does not say this. And this quote is hearsay from a book - so possibly may not even be true .
A man is not supposed to be tried on his character - he is supposed to be tried on facts.
It seems to me that by repeating these terms over and over again Adam is trying to make some sort of point .
Perhaps he would like to clarify what that point is?
It seems to be more than just interest in a criminal case, but rather a personal matter/personal hatred.
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I wonder if this was brought up in court.
The prosecution could get confirmation from Liz Rimmington at trial. Then question Bamber when he testified. He could explain the statement, or say Liz was lying. But why would she lie under oath ?
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When testifying, Bamber accused a lot of people of lying. The reason, the media had blackened his name.
Not sure if that would motivate people to lie under oath. Anyway pre verdict the press could only report about the facts and trial.
Julie of course lied under oath because irresistible love god Jeremy had apparently jilted her. After the relationship had been in decline for six months.
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Jeremy was a typical " wally " in his day. If it's alleged he made such a remark as him " knowing what happened that night ",then he was just making out that he was the " know-all and big I am ", and nothing sinister. A " Billy Liar " if you like,to make himself recognised.What a pratt !
No doubt we've all met them. Always trying to go one better,especially if they're as financially viable as Jeremy was,so remarks such as he made would have gone right over my head.
Sadly,his impressionable remarks got him locked up. Nobody had figured him out.
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Jeremy was a typical " wally " in his day. If it's alleged he made such a remark as him " knowing what happened that night ",then he was just making out that he was the " know-all and big I am ", and nothing sinister. A " Billy Liar " if you like,to make himself recognised.What a pratt !
No doubt we've all met them. Always trying to go one better,especially if they're as financially viable as Jeremy was,so remarks such as he made would have gone right over my head.
Sadly,his impressionable remarks got him locked up. Nobody had figured him out.
As usual it is making something of nothing - He probably just meant what happened to him . In the farmhouse before he left and how he was treated by the police as the scenario outside. Nothing more , nothing less.
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As usual it is making something of nothing - He probably just meant what happened to him . In the farmhouse before he left and how he was treated by the police as the scenario outside. Nothing more , nothing less.
I so agree Jan. The psychology of an idiot ( sorry Jeremy ) ;D ;D ;D ;D He was just slow at growing up.