Jeremy Bamber Forum
JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: Adam on October 29, 2014, 08:05:AM
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1985:
Jeremy is charged with 5X murder. The best available lawyers are hired, Paul Terezon and David Napley.
The defence lawyers realise it is going to be an extremely difficult case to win. Several psychiatrists and forensic experts are hired. Such as Professor Bernard Knight, David Lincoln and John Hayward. None are able to bolster the defence's case.
1986:
A year after being charged and after a 21 day trial, the jury find Jeremy Bamber guilty.
1986 - 2001:
The 'Campaign for Freedom' begins. More experts and lawyers are brought in. Geoffrey Rivlin continues to assist Jeremy, Mark Webster examines the blood evidence and Professor Leon McDonnell looks at forensic evidence. None are able to assist Jeremy.
A COA application is rejected.
The 'Life means life' law is made. Affecting around 50 prisoners. Jeremy the only one to protest his innocence.
A complaint against Essex police is made. This is dismissed. Jeremy reacts by writing 'FREE BAMBER HE IS INNOCENT' in excrement on prison walls.
Jeremy co operates on Wilkes's book. However his charm was not able to turn it into Pro Jeremy book.
2002:
The COA dismiss an application. Hiring their own expert Dr Ismail who acquires new information. The judges saying 'The more we look at the case, the more we believe the jury were right'.
The relatives said they were dismayed that the CCRC passed the case to the COA.
2003 - 2011:
The emergence of the internet gives the ' Campaign for Freedom' a boost.
Politicians and reporters are contacted.
Wild accusations are made about moving bodies, conversations inside WHF & Neville phoning the police.
Jeremy announces to the press he passed a lie detector test.
Expensive rifle tests are carried out in Arizona and peak time TV programmes dedicate time to the case in the build up to the 2012 CCRC application.
2012:
The CCRC fail to pass Jeremy's application to the COA. Nothing is released on why. Although similar to 2002, the CCRC may have obtained new information from experts highlighting guilt further.
Many people believe this is the end of the road. The 'Campaign for Freedom' remains defiant however Jeremy amazingly turns attention to the 'Life means life' law.
2013:
Jeremy and two other prisoners successfully get the 'Life means Life' order negated. Although Jeremy is unable to benefit as he still protests his innocence.
2014:
Information is acquired about the contents of Paul Harrison's forthcoming book on the case. Harrison receives threatening letters and suspicious contacts from a female Essex publisher.
Harrison says he believes that Jeremy is behind the threats. He also says he has got conclusive proof that will once and fall all show the police got the right man.
August 2015:
Harrison's book is published. The new evidence, if correct looks damning. The Campaign for Freedom' team make no comment.
September 2015:
Jeremy confessors and apologises. He says he is hoping to prove he is reformed and able to live some of his final years outside prison as the 'Life means life' law no longer exists.
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What a load of cobblers----------------------again ! Clairvoyant now,are you ?
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Well it is all fact. Apart from September 2015 section.
Harrison's book is due for a August 2015 release.
Advances in criminal investigation technology may have highlighted even more certain guilt. Resulting in the CCRC rejecting the case in 2012.
The CCRC and authorities are not obliged to disclose this information to the public. They already have a conviction. However if Harrison has got hold of this, it will spell the end and a confession.
Someone or some people are obviously not happy with what Harrison has found out.
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Well it is all fact. Apart from September 2015 section.
Harrison's book is due for a August 2015 release.
Advances in criminal investigation technology may have highlighted even more certain guilt. Resulting in the CCRC rejecting the case in 2012.
The CCRC and authorities are not obliged to disclose this information to the public. They already have a conviction. However if Harrison has got hold of this, it will spell the end and a confession.
Someone or some people are obviously not happy with what Harrison has found out.
He has said that only his publisher and solicitor know the contents. Any feelings one way or the other could be said to be premature.
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It will be a real wrench if Jeremy has to confess.
But he will if he realises he will look stupid by continuing to protest his innocence. In my view he has already looked stupid, spending so long swimming against the tide for 29 years. A massive tide as well. There are reasons why he does this. Thread already created.
I wonder if Harrison is correct saying he has 'conclusive proof that will once and for all show the police got the right man'.
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He has said that only his publisher and solicitor know the contents. Any feelings one way or the other could be said to be premature.
Source please.
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1985:
Jeremy is charged with 5X murder. The best available lawyers are hired, Paul Terezon and David Napley.
The defence lawyers realise it is going to be an extremely difficult case to win. Several psychiatrists and forensic experts are hired. Such as Professor Bernard Knight, David Lincoln and John Hayward. None are able to bolster the defence's case.
1986:
A year after being charged and after a 21 day trial, the jury find Jeremy Bamber guilty.
1986 - 2001:
The 'Campaign for Freedom' begins. More experts and lawyers are brought in. Geoffrey Rivlin continues to assist Jeremy, Mark Webster examines the blood evidence and Professor Leon McDonnell looks at forensic evidence. None are able to assist Jeremy.
A COA application is rejected.
The 'Life means life' law is made. Affecting around 50 prisoners. Jeremy the only one to protest his innocence.
A complaint against Essex police is made. This is dismissed. Jeremy reacts by writing 'FREE BAMBER HE IS INNOCENT' in excrement on prison walls.
Jeremy co operates on Wilkes's book. However his charm was not able to turn it into Pro Jeremy book.
2002:
The COA dismiss an application. Hiring their own expert Dr Ismail who acquires new information. The judges saying 'The more we look at the case, the more we believe the jury were right'.
The relatives said they were dismayed that the CCRC passed the case to the COA.
2003 - 2011:
The emergence of the internet gives the ' Campaign for Freedom' a boost.
Politicians and reporters are contacted.
Wild accusations are made about moving bodies, conversations inside WHF & Neville phoning the police.
Jeremy announces to the press he passed a lie detector test.
Expensive rifle tests are carried out in Arizona and peak time TV programmes dedicate time to the case in the build up to the 2012 CCRC application.
2012:
The CCRC fail to pass Jeremy's application to the COA. Nothing is released on why. Although similar to 2002, the CCRC may have obtained new information from experts highlighting guilt further.
Many people believe this is the end of the road. The 'Campaign for Freedom' remains defiant however Jeremy amazingly turns attention to the 'Life means life' law.
2013:
Jeremy and two other prisoners successfully get the 'Life means Life' order negated. Although Jeremy is unable to benefit as he still protests his innocence.
2014:
Information is acquired about the contents of Paul Harrison's forthcoming book on the case. Harrison receives threatening letters and suspicious contacts from a female Essex publisher.
Harrison says he believes that Jeremy is behind the threats. He also says he has got conclusive proof that will once and fall all show the police got the right man.
August 2015:
Harrison's book is published. The new evidence, if correct looks damning. The Campaign for Freedom' team make no comment.
September 2015:
Jeremy confessors and apologises. He says he is hoping to prove he is reformed and able to live some of his final years outside prison as the 'Life means life' law no longer exists.
How does Harrison's book look "damning"? Hahahah, just because he said it would prove once and for all that Bamber is guilty? Are you so short sighted that you can't even see a sales pitch when you see it?
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Well it is all fact. Apart from September 2015 section.
Harrison's book is due for a August 2015 release.
Advances in criminal investigation technology may have highlighted even more certain guilt. Resulting in the CCRC rejecting the case in 2012.
The CCRC and authorities are not obliged to disclose this information to the public. They already have a conviction. However if Harrison has got hold of this, it will spell the end and a confession.
Someone or some people are obviously not happy with what Harrison has found out.
Harrison hasn't found out any more than we didn't already know,unless he's privy to files/documents which are in the hands of Jeremy and his solicitors,which aren't likely to be leaked,even to an ex-cop,particularly to an ex-cop !
I wouldn't mind betting that he's been in hot water for having gleaned information for his book,that if some reached the public domain-----------then goodnight Vienna.
Believe me,if I had the money,I'd pay for a whistle-blower to get to the bottom of all this,it's nothing short of scandalous. To pin a crime on someone who clearly didn't do it !!
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Source please.
You seem to have missed the pm's which have been floating around. Perhaps it was during your absence.
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How does Harrison's book look "damning"? Hahahah, just because he said it would prove once and for all that Bamber is guilty? Are you so short sighted that you can't even see a sales pitch when you see it?
If it not damning why has Jeremy or supporter/s threatened him.
More importantly, do you think there will be a September 2015 confession ?
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It will be a real wrench if Jeremy has to confess.
But he will if he realises he will look stupid by continuing to protest his innocence. In my view he has already looked stupid, spending so long swimming against the tide for 29 years. A massive tide as well. There are reasons why he does this. Thread already created.
I wonder if Harrison is correct saying he has 'conclusive proof that will once and for all show the police got the right man'.
Then he would know nothing more than you who says there is already conclusive proof that he is guilty. What else is there left to say that would surprise you?
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If it not damning why has Jeremy or supporter/s threatened him.
More importantly, do you think there will be a September 2015 confession ?
It's NOT the supporters who've threatened. It's made to look that way by the nasty-minded person/s who are so adamant that he's guilty that it would appear that they,themselves have suffered a psychotic episode.!
25 years would have been the finale for a confession as that was the original prison term meted out.
Confessions happen within 10 years of imprisonment.
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Harrison hasn't found out any more than we didn't already know,unless he's privy to files/documents which are in the hands of Jeremy and his solicitors,which aren't likely to be leaked,even to an ex-cop,particularly to an ex-cop !
I wouldn't mind betting that he's been in hot water for having gleaned information for his book,that if some reached the public domain-----------then goodnight Vienna.
Believe me,if I had the money,I'd pay for a whistle-blower to get to the bottom of all this,it's nothing short of scandalous. To pin a crime on someone who clearly didn't do it !!
Harrison would have done what the 2002 appeal judges did. Get other experts opinions and fresh evidence. He may have also got information from people that Jeremy used but has kept quiet about. Such as professor Bernard Knight, although there may have been dozens of others who have given team Bamber horrible feedback.
The CCRC may have obtained new conclusive proof. That the public do not know about. Resulting in their 2012 rejection. Harrison may also have got this information.
If he has no new information, there is no point releasing a book.
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You seem to have missed the pm's which have been floating around. Perhaps it was during your absence.
So no source. But you mentioned my ban again.
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Harrison would have done what the 2002 appeal judges did. Get other experts opinions and fresh evidence. He may have also got information from people that Jeremy used but has kept quiet about. Such as professor Bernard Knight, although there may have been dozens of others.
The CCRC may have obtained new conclusive proof. That the public do not know about. Resulting in their 2012 rejection. Harrison may also have this.
If he has no new information, there is no point releasing a book.
Any proof now which comes to light will be in Jeremys' favour,or why do you think if it wasn't,that it didn't appear at the trial ? Think about it.
If the book is anything to go by as to why Woffinden changed his mind,then it's pathetic. Woffindens' mind was changed on account of the telephone being " hidden " under magazines ! FGS,could not Sheila also have done that ?? That was a lame excuse if ever there was one.
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Then he would know nothing more than you who says there is already conclusive proof that he is guilty. What else is there left to say that would surprise you?
Always new and interesting information becoming available. Which is why there are forums.
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Always new and interesting information becoming available. Which is why there are forums.
And where's this " new and interesting information " going to come from ?? The charred remains of what was left when it was incinerated ?
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Files and documents were deleted in Baby Peters' case,in order that EVERYONES' backs were covered !!
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Any proof now which comes to light will be in Jeremys' favour,or why do you think if it wasn't,that it didn't appear at the trial ? Think about it.
If the book is anything to go by as to why Woffinden changed his mind,then it's pathetic. Woffindens' mind was changed on account of the telephone being " hidden " under magazines ! FGS,could not Sheila also have done that ?? That was a lame excuse if ever there was one.
Woffinden was interviewed on a Youtube video which Alias supplied. Sadly it is not still available.
He said that it was not practical that Sheila could have committed the crime. Another psychiatrist on the programme said it was implausible that Sheila would have committed the massacre.
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And where's this " new and interesting information " going to come from ?? The charred remains of what was left when it was incinerated ?
Already answered. Harrison is an investigative author. So will investigate.
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Files and documents were deleted in Baby Peters' case,in order that EVERYONES' backs were covered !!
Do you think there will be a September 2015 confession ?
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Already answered. Harrison is an investigative author. So will investigate.
You can only investigate so far and this is the danger !!
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Do you think there will be a September 2015 confession ?
NO---------END OF !! Confess to what might I ask ??
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NO---------END OF !! Confess to what might I ask ??
We will have to wait and see.
Next year will be 30 years. A long time. Every avenue available has been taken in the Campaign for Freedom' but there has been no release.
Jeremy has been taking steps in advance. Getting the 'Life is life' law changed and contacting Harrison.
A convincing book may be the clincher in a confession being made.
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So no source. But you mentioned my ban again.
Source IS there. Go look and NOPE, this time it was YOU who used the word you'd much rather wasn't used. I said "absence" meaning "not present".
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Source IS there. Go look and NOPE, this time it was YOU who used the word you'd much rather wasn't used. I said "absence" meaning "not present".
You mentioned my absence, which was an indirect comment regarding my ban.
Why don't you just discuss the case instead of focusing on me. Over moderating me, as other posters have said.
It is unprofessional and bad management.
And why don't you just provide the source I politely requested. Rather than mentioning my absence. Unless you have no source.
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Source IS there. Go look and NOPE, this time it was YOU who used the word you'd much rather wasn't used. I said "absence" meaning "not present".
I appreciate it's hard changing stance after 29 years.
Similar to my offer to Lookout, feel free to PM me if you are having difficulty with the change.
Out of interest, what made you change stance ? Susan & Caroline gave reasons. Grahame gave a reason for leaving the forum a few months ago. Be interesting to know you're reason after 29 years of being a committed supporter.
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If it not damning why has Jeremy or supporter/s threatened him.
More importantly, do you think there will be a September 2015 confession ?
There is absolutely no proof whatsoever that any Bamber supporter has threatened PH. Indeed I am rather surprised that someone who boasts to be guided by the facts all the time is so quick to make such a statement? You know what that tells me Adam? That you are not the best person to judge such a matter. Your opinion is just presumption as far as I can see.
Not only do you presume to know that a supporter is responsible for sending such a letter to PH, but that you are also very quick to believe that he received such a letter at all, especially as he himself has only "insinuated" that Jeremy or his "disciples" sent such a letter, together with a very powerful hint that he made it quite clear that Jackie was that "disciple" who sent him the alleged letter.
In my opinion Adam you appear to be a very gullible person who will believe anything against your enemies without any such proof whatsoever and I'm afraid Adam I must reluctantly add to that, that you are therefore a very dangerous person who will it appears instigate lynch parties against completely innocent people?
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There is absolutely no proof whatsoever that any Bamber supporter has threatened PH. Indeed I am rather surprised that someone who boasts to be guided by the facts all the time is so quick to make such a statement? You know what that tells me Adam? That you are not the best person to judge such a matter. Your opinion is just presumption as far as I can see.
Not only do you presume to know that a supporter is responsible for sending such a letter to PH, but that you are also very quick to believe that he received such a letter at all, especially as he himself has only "insinuated" that Jeremy or his "disciples" sent such a letter, together with a very powerful hint that he made it quite clear that Jackie was that "disciple" who sent him the alleged letter.
In my opinion Adam you appear to be a very gullible person who will believe anything against your enemies without any such proof whatsoever and I'm afraid Adam I must reluctantly add to that, that you are therefore a very dangerous person who will it appears instigate lynch parties against completely innocent people?
Gullible ? Crazy Sheila ran upstairs with a loaded rifle.... Neville phones Jeremy. :)
So Harrison did not receive a letter from Jeremy or a supporter. I'm all confused.
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To be so sure that it happened to have been a supporter,to me,is an admission that it wasn't,so keep it up Adam,you're doing more in convincing me of Jeremys' innocence. ;D.
Change ? I wouldn't change if the Queen said he was guilty right now. !!
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You mentioned my absence, which was an indirect comment regarding my ban.
Why don't you just discuss the case instead of focusing on me. Over moderating me, as other posters have said.
It is unprofessional and bad management.
And why don't you just provide the source I politely requested. Rather than mentioning my absence. Unless you have no source.
Why do YOU keep harping on about the thing which you don't want us to mention. As I said, the source IS there. I frankly can't see why it will make any difference to it's validity whether you see it or not.
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Why do YOU keep harping on about the thing which you don't want us to mention. As I said, the source IS there. I frankly can't see why it will make any difference to it's validity whether you see it or not.
I must have missed the source. Bit disappointed it was not provided for me after a polite request. Anyway time to move on.
Out of interest why did you change you're stance ? Twenty nine years is a long time to be a committed supporter. Was it one big thing or a build up of small things ?
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I must have missed the source. Bit disappointed it was not provided for me after a polite request. Anyway time to move on.
Out of interest why did you change you're stance ? Twenty nine years is a long time to be a committed supporter. Was it one big thing or a build up of small things ?
I've never used the word "committed" to describe my stance regarding Jeremy.
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I've never used the word "committed" to describe my stance regarding Jeremy.
Well you certainly passionately disagreed with my posts and threads which I was creating. Expressing my views on guilt. After I joined what was a 90% pro Jeremy forum.
There must be a reason for the change. Did you agree with Caroline's and Susan's reasons as you all changed stance at a similar time.
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I must have missed the source. Bit disappointed it was not provided for me after a polite request. Anyway time to move on.
Out of interest why did you change you're stance ? Twenty nine years is a long time to be a committed supporter. Was it one big thing or a build up of small things ?
Why are you so interested in spending time keeping a man in jail when you have absolutely no belief that anything whatsover in any respect is wrong with his conviction? And therefore in "Adam" world there is no way that he will be let out ?
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Why are you so interested in spending time keeping a man in jail when you have absolutely no belief that anything whatsover in any respect is wrong with his conviction? And therefore in "Adam" world there is no way that he will be let out ?
Do you think Jeremy is building up to a September 2015 confession ?
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Files and documents were deleted in Baby Peters' case,in order that EVERYONES' backs were covered !!
Yes and the same thing happened in regard to the Bamber evidence.
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You mentioned my absence, which was an indirect comment regarding my ban.
Why don't you just discuss the case instead of focusing on me. Over moderating me, as other posters have said.
It is unprofessional and bad management.
And why don't you just provide the source I politely requested. Rather than mentioning my absence. Unless you have no source.
Probably because you keep focusing upon yourself?
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Probably because you keep focusing upon yourself?
You focus on me. Calling me 'short sighted', 'gullible' and 'dangerous' in this thread alone.
Don't mind being called dangerous. Makes me sound James Bond ish.
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You focus on me. Calling me 'short sighted', 'gullible' and 'dangerous' in this thread alone.
Don't mind being called dangerous. Makes me sound James Bond ish.
Not Johnny English? ;D
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You focus on me. Calling me 'short sighted', 'gullible' and 'dangerous' in this thread alone.
Don't mind being called dangerous. Makes me sound James Bond ish.
I think you've just proved Grahame's point. When the focus ISN'T on you, you either create threads OR say anything which pulls the focus back to you.
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Probably because you keep focusing upon yourself?
I've never come across such an egotistical person in all my life,and believe me,I've met some idiots who thought they knew it all,and have gone away licking their wounds.
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I think you've just proved Grahame's point. When the focus ISN'T on you, you either create threads OR say anything which pulls the focus back to you.
I do create threads. All about Jeremy Bamber.
Did you miss my question earlier about why you changed stance ? Be good for everyone to discuss, as they did with Caroline's thread.
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Do you think there will be a September 2015 confession ?
No.
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Do you think Jeremy is building up to a September 2015 confession ?
No. What possible reason could he have for that - whatever your view of guilt or innocence?
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Well 30 years is a long time to fail to get a release. Jeremy said himself today he has no evidence to prove his innocence.
He was the only 'Life means life' prisoner who protested his innocence. And campaigned to have this law changed after the CCRC 2012 ruling. Which many felt was his last chance of freedom.
If Harrison's August 2015 book does what he is claiming it's going to do, and the threats suggest it could, surely Jeremy would be mad to not confess.
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Right,I'm going to put something to you now Adam.
Say for instance you were driving along at night and you could see a cars headlights at a distance in your rear view mirror. All you notice is that it's a dark-coloured car,it overtakes you and in doing so,knocks over a pedestrian,who lands right in front of you hitting the bonnet/bumper of your car.
There are no witnesses,the speeding car is nowhere in sight and there's a dead pedestrian in front of you,a dent in your car where he was thrown,along with blood and a missing part of your car minus some of its paint.
How are you going to explain to the police that there was another car which was involved,yet the pedestrian has all the hallmarks of it being yourself who'd been involved,as your clock states 70mph in a 50mph area and no witnesses around,blood on the front of your car,and your brake-marks on the road.
Are the police going to believe your story ? No,they're not. They've heard it all before. Row with the girlfriend that night and not concentrating on the road as well as going too fast to brake. Probably under the influence of cannabis. They'll throw the book at you.
You're arrested and nobody will believe you. You'd had a previous run-in with the police for possession of cannabis. No witnesses. No alibis'. No chance !! Like it or not,a manslaughter charge would follow and there's damn all you could do about it.
It would matter not how many times you kept saying you didn't do it,,there's nobody out there listening.
Your word against the law. Who do you think wins ?
Don't ever think that you'll sail through life without a brush with the law over something,then you'll find out how fair the system is,because right now you've got a lot to learn.
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Well 30 years is a long time to fail to get a release. Jeremy said himself today he has no evidence to prove his innocence.
He was the only 'Life means life' prisoner who protested his innocence. And campaigned to have this law changed after the CCRC 2012 ruling. Which many felt was his last chance of freedom.
If Harrison's August 2015 book does what he is claiming it's going to do, and the threats suggest it could, surely Jeremy would be mad to not confess.
What law is that Adam? Do you mean the life means life law? If so Jeremy believe's the law is right.
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Well 30 years is a long time to fail to get a release. Jeremy said himself today he has no evidence to prove his innocence.
He was the only 'Life means life' prisoner who protested his innocence. And campaigned to have this law changed after the CCRC 2012 ruling. Which many felt was his last chance of freedom.
If Harrison's August 2015 book does what he is claiming it's going to do, and the threats suggest it could, surely Jeremy would be mad to not confess.
The only threats that we all have seen are threats to certain members of the forum. There is only PH's sayso that he has received threats and if he has we don't have enoth evidence to accuse anyone. We can only speculate.
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Well 30 years is a long time to fail to get a release. Jeremy said himself today he has no evidence to prove his innocence.
He was the only 'Life means life' prisoner who protested his innocence. And campaigned to have this law changed after the CCRC 2012 ruling. Which many felt was his last chance of freedom.
If Harrison's August 2015 book does what he is claiming it's going to do, and the threats suggest it could, surely Jeremy would be mad to not confess.
And why should we believe that it will? What is his past form? Has anyone here actually read any of his work?
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Hello Neil
yes tyler posted to him when he came on the forum that she had read all his books and really enjoyed them.
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Well 30 years is a long time to fail to get a release. Jeremy said himself today he has no evidence to prove his innocence.
He was the only 'Life means life' prisoner who protested his innocence. And campaigned to have this law changed after the CCRC 2012 ruling. Which many felt was his last chance of freedom.
If Harrison's August 2015 book does what he is claiming it's going to do, and the threats suggest it could, surely Jeremy would be mad to not confess.
How do you know who the threat cam from or why there was a threat? What leads you to believe it is Jeremy ?
On this forum PH has been very critical of EP , he also said it was the "establishment " who were trying to stop him publishing? How do you know it was not the "establishment " who sent the letter and succeeded in Implicating Jeremy at the same time ?
You are as usual jumping to assumptions and conclusions.
And no I don't think JB will be confessing in 2015.
There are ALL sorts of people who read these forums and disguise themselves as "harmless " posters.
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How do you know who the threat cam from or why there was a threat? What leads you to believe it is Jeremy ?
On this forum PH has been very critical of EP , he also said it was the "establishment " who were trying to stop him publishing? How do you know it was not the "establishment " who sent the letter and succeeded in Implicating Jeremy at the same time ?
You are as usual jumping to assumptions and conclusions.
And no I don't think JB will be confessing in 2015.
There are ALL sorts of people who read these forums and disguise themselves as "harmless " posters.
The Express article says Harrison believes it was Bamber behind the threat.
I have not read Harrison criticising the police. But have read Mike Gradwell doing so. Who also said it was a safe conviction.
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The Express article says Harrison believes it was Bamber behind the threat.
I have not read Harrison criticising the police. But have read Mike Gradwell doing so. Who also said it was a safe conviction.
Well perhaps before you make assumptions perhaps you should read his comments .
And yes Harrison did say what he thinks- does not make it true though does it ? Even you must admit that JB would not be so stupid as to instigate such a letter - surely you can see that?
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Well perhaps before you make assumptions perhaps you should read his comments .
And yes Harrison did say what he thinks- does not make it true though does it ? Even you must admit that JB would not be so stupid as to instigate such a letter - surely you can see that?
What Harrison thinks counts for more than what we think. He will know most about what's what.
Jeremy will never get caught out being involved in this. But is very influential, controlling the OS, having two legal teams and money for expensive Arizona tests. Surprised he finds time for his badminton lessons.
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What Harrison thinks counts for more than what we think. He will know most about what's what.
Jeremy will never get caught out being involved in this. But is very influential, controlling the OS, having two legal teams and money for expensive Arizona tests. Surprised he finds time for his badminton lessons.
That means as usual you have made up your mind. And your sarcasm betrays your personal attachment to this case.
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Don't forget to reply to Lookouts post. Remember your manners.
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I don't think that Bamber will confess, no matter what the book has found.
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I don't think that Bamber will confess, no matter what the book has found.
probably we differ in the reason why ::) But I agree.
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probably we differ in the reason why ::) But I agree.
I think we may be on the same page with this one to be honest. :)
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So-------Jeremys' so-called " threat " will now be yet another fixation in Adams' brain. More fuel to fan the flames and spread like manure in a field,which is exactly what that remark was meant for.Dirty tricks played by dirty double-crossers.
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So-------Jeremys' so-called " threat " will now be yet another fixation in Adams' brain. More fuel to fan the flames and spread like manure in a field,which is exactly what that remark was meant for.Dirty tricks played by dirty double-crossers.
I guess you won't be wanting a signed copy of MD's book any longer, Lookout?
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I do create threads. All about Jeremy Bamber.
Did you miss my question earlier about why you changed stance ? Be good for everyone to discuss, as they did with Caroline's thread.
You sure do! You sometimes create your own threads about subjects which there are already ongoing threads about. I don´t know why you do that - anyone´s guess! :P
It does give the mods and admins some extra work from time to time - merging threads. Guess you don´t care one bit about that.
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I guess you won't be wanting a signed copy of MD's book any longer, Lookout?
Oh,I'll buy the book alright,Mat.Whether it's signed is immaterial.
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Has an unpublished book ever been discussed this much? 8)
I feel I have been hearing about it for ages, and it never materializes!
First it was claimed, almost on a daily basis, that all we had to do was for MD´s book to come out, and it would be proven that Jeremy was innocent.
Now that has turned to: just wait until MD´s book comes out, he has absolute proof Jeremy is guilty.
Getting a little fed up with this invisible book. Not going to buy it anyway, I don´t trust the writer.
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Has an unpublished book ever been discussed this much? 8)
I feel I have been hearing about it for ages, and it never materializes!
First it was claimed, almost on a daily basis, that all we had to do was for MD´s book to come out, and it would be proven that Jeremy was innocent.
Now that has turned to: just wait until MD´s book comes out, he has absolute proof Jeremy is guilty.
Getting a little fed up with this invisible book. Not going to buy it anyway, I don´t trust the writer.
This is exactly why I'll be buying it Alias.
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Adam
What's your problem ? why are you so green with envy of Jeremy. I do not come on here often but read a lot. And I have to say your comments stick out like a jealous man. Jeremy will never confess to a crime he never committed. This guy Paul is just going for the big sale.You are a sad foolish man get a life.
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Adam
What's your problem ? why are you so green with envy of Jeremy. I do not come on here often but read a lot. And I have to say your comments stick out like a jealous man. Jeremy will never confess to a crime he never committed. This guy Paul is just going for the big sale.You are a sad foolish man get a life.
It must be because Jeremy gets all that attention!
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Adam
What's your problem ? why are you so green with envy of Jeremy. I do not come on here often but read a lot. And I have to say your comments stick out like a jealous man. Jeremy will never confess to a crime he never committed. This guy Paul is just going for the big sale.You are a sad foolish man get a life.
How right you are. He's a big girls blouse.
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Adam
What's your problem ? why are you so green with envy of Jeremy. I do not come on here often but read a lot. And I have to say your comments stick out like a jealous man. Jeremy will never confess to a crime he never committed. This guy Paul is just going for the big sale.You are a sad foolish man get a life.
I see it differently. I think that Adam enjoys winding everyone up and getting reactions like the one he's just got from you.
Personally, I can't think of anyone I would be less jealous of, than Jeremy!
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Adam
What's your problem ? why are you so green with envy of Jeremy. I do not come on here often but read a lot. And I have to say your comments stick out like a jealous man. Jeremy will never confess to a crime he never committed. This guy Paul is just going for the big sale.You are a sad foolish man get a life.
The same question has frequently been asked.......................and the same conclusion drawn.
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I see it differently. I think that Adam enjoys winding everyone up and getting reactions like the one he's just got from you.
Personally, I can't think of anyone I would be less jealous of, than Jeremy!
As it was said earlier today, Adam's real focus is Adam and threads about the threads about the threads are a useful way of keeping the focus where he wants it.
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I can't see Adam being jealous of Bamber! Nothing to be jealous of, quite the opposite.
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The greatest liar in the world is a book, not my comments but from the late and sadly missed Dr Carl Sagan.
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I can't see Adam being jealous of Bamber! Nothing to be jealous of, quite the opposite.
I could count on two hands the amount of times that Adam mentioned the " Boss " suit. Why ?
What's so special about that ? He became quite paranoid about it. ::)
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I see it differently. I think that Adam enjoys winding everyone up and getting reactions like the one he's just got from you.
Personally, I can't think of anyone I would be less jealous of, than Jeremy!
I completely agree with you Neil :)
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I can't see Adam being jealous of Bamber! Nothing to be jealous of, quite the opposite.
I think it's something about all the attention that he seems to think Jeremy is getting. Many of his posts mention this.
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Something wrong with a man who seeks and craves attention ! ???
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Adam, Bamber doesn't get that much attention. People I have spoken to have never heard of him.
He gets attention here and one or two other places...that's it.
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Andrea is quite correct on this few actually know the rest don't care the World moves on .
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Correct, mertol.
Not long now, crimbo!!
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Correct, mertol.
Not long now, crimbo!!
Crimbo round the corner Andrea, perhaps what is forgotten here we are debating the early part of the 1980s , now looks so long ago about 10 years or so after the Vietnam War ended, he has spent most of his adult life behind bars and looks to remain there what I don't think is right is supressed information but that's another thing.
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The greatest liar in the world is a book, not my comments but from the late and sadly missed Dr Carl Sagan.
A book will usually tell someone's truth, as in most history books are written from the victor's perspective.
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Adam, Bamber doesn't get that much attention. People I have spoken to have never heard of him.
He gets attention here and one or two other places...that's it.
I agree Andrea, no one I know had heard of him, the ones that do, it's only because I mentioned him.
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A book will usually tell someone's truth, as in most history books are written from the victor's perspective.
Who is the victor in the Bible?
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Same here, Caroline.
This is off topic, but.. Do you know anyone who owns a Halogen Oven? The worktop type?
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Who is the victor in the Bible?
Good is said to triumph over evil, but I guess if you're going to use the bible as an example, you'll get a different answer every time you ask the question. You MAY get a more definitive answer from Grahame.
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Same here, Caroline.
This is off topic, but.. Do you know anyone who owns a Halogen Oven? The worktop type?
I have one :D
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Is it Any good? They're raving about them on Ideal World at the moment.
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Same here, Caroline.
This is off topic, but.. Do you know anyone who owns a Halogen Oven? The worktop type?
Hi Andrea
Yes I had one but my son did not like it....I thought it was OK. :)
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Hi Andrea
Yes I had one but my son did not like it....I thought it was OK. :)
I use mine regularly. It's faster than my fan oven and better for small amounts of food.
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Do they cook a decent joint? I buy Rib of Beef and its quite expensive so I make sure its cooked perfect. Would hate to buy a Halogen only for it to ruin a good joint. Thinking of getting one now.
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I use mine regularly. It's faster than my fan oven and better for small amounts of food.
I like mine April. I could cook a dinner for two and have no heavy pans to clean except the bowl. My son hated it because the roast potatoes did not go as brown as they do in the conventional. I gave mine to my daughter...I thinks she gave it way too. There are 6 of them and it would be impossible to cook with one of those for that amount of people. I've has 3 microwaves and not used any of them yet lol
There's nowt like good old fashioned cooking. ;D
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Do they cook a decent joint? I buy Rib of Beef and its quite expensive so I make sure its cooked perfect. Would hate to buy a Halogen only for it to ruin a good joint. Thinking of getting one now.
I don't think I'd risk Rib of Beef as a first. Shepherd's pie or lasagne might be a better bet :D The timings and temperatures aren't quite the same as a conventional oven.
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I like mine April. I could cook a dinner for two and have no heavy pans to clean except the bowl. My son hated it because the roast potatoes did not go as brown as they do in the conventional. I gave mine to my daughter...I thinks she gave it way too. There are 6 of them and it would be impossible to cook with one of those for that amount of people. I've has 3 microwaves and not used any of them yet lol
There's nowt like good old fashioned cooking. ;D
I use mine in combination with a slow cooker, a microwave, and the hob. Have just invested in a ceramic frying pan which uses ZERO fat and what ever is being cooked will slide onto a plate without leaving a trace.
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What is the make of the pan? There's quite a few to choose from.
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I liked mine April. I could cook a dinner for two and have no heavy pans to clean except the bowl. My son hated it because the roast potatoes did not go as brown as they do in the conventional. I gave mine to my daughter...I thinks she gave it way too. There are 6 of them and it would be impossible to cook with one of those for that amount of people. I've has 3 microwaves and not used any of them yet lol
There's nowt like good old fashioned cooking. ;D
Oh blinkin heck tried to amend but modified it lol Not my day today. Been shopping with me top on inside out....Hahaha
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By now I would have thought the passing of time and his life Jeremy would have come to terms what he did if he did it, prison is far from a doddle I cant think of anything more destroying to the human soul as interment denial of a free life, if anyone knows a alternative im all ears so I can only conclude Jeremy s mind is still intact the state has yet to destroy it and that I wonder why.
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By now I would have thought the passing of time and his life Jeremy would have come to terms what he did if he did it, prison is far from a doddle I cant think of anything more destroying to the human soul as interment denial of a free life, if anyone knows a alternative im all ears so I can only conclude Jeremy s mind is still intact the state has yet to destroy it and that I wonder why.
I totally agree and listening to his voice on the audio convinced me of one thing I don't think he believes he did it. He believes he is innocent. Not sure what that means though.
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I totally agree and listening to his voice on the audio convinced me of one thing I don't think he believes he did it. He believes he is innocent. Not sure what that means though.
There's no faltering or wavering in his voice,nor is there any angry emphasis. Just a straightforward and truthful denial of his involvement. He's stuck by his word for all these years,which as Mertol pointed out,is the most difficult thing to do in the surrounds of a prison.
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Well it is all fact. Apart from September 2015 section.
Harrison's book is due for a August 2015 release.
Advances in criminal investigation technology may have highlighted even more certain guilt. Resulting in the CCRC rejecting the case in 2012.
The CCRC and authorities are not obliged to disclose this information to the public. They already have a conviction. However if Harrison has got hold of this, it will spell the end and a confession.
Someone or some people are obviously not happy with what Harrison has found out.
Harrison will be highlighting the evidence that convicted Jeremy. Biased peopel will continue to ignore that evidence and still say he is innocent. Jeremy will still maintain his innocence int he face of the evidence he can't refute hoping more peopel will be like his supporters and ignore the evidence.
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What evidence ? If I want to say that he's innocent, then that's my prerogative and it has got nothing to do with you nor anyone else !!
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how many murder cases have been settled by sombosy writting a book none that i can think of.
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What evidence ? If I want to say that he's innocent, then that's my prerogative and it has got nothing to do with you nor anyone else !!
The page of evidence I highlighted time and again that neither you nor any supporter has been able to dent. Biased supporters like you simply dismiss such evidence but that just amounts to living in denial. It doesn't make it go away, you need to refute it in order to prevent it from establishing his guilt but you can't.
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There is arleady evidence to show guilt, I agree with that Scip. I'm not convinced MD has anythnig too revealing... I always found his posts on the forum, slightly poor. Maybe he was holding back though.
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how many murder cases have been settled by sombosy writting a book none that i can think of.
Jeremy recently claimed he is innocent but has no ability to prove it by refuting the evidence that establishes his guilt.
Obviously a book that argues in favor of his guilt will stress such evidence that jeremy is unable to refute.
His staunch supporters are aware of such evidence but choose to believe that even though he can't refute it that such evidence is somehow not what it seems and that he is in fact innocent.
The expectation that such supporters will suddenly face he is guilty just because the same evidence they already ignore is posted in his book is silly.
Likwise, the expectation he will stop saying he is innocent but can't prove it and admit his guilt because the evidence is highlighted in yet another book is silly.
The same evidence that convicted him at trial is the same evidence he has always railed against publicly and during his appeals. If he ever has a change of heart and admits his guilt it won't be as a result of a book. It will be something internal that makes him decide to do so.
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The page of evidence I highlighted time and again that neither you nor any supporter has been able to dent. Biased supporters like you simply dismiss such evidence but that just amounts to living in denial. It doesn't make it go away, you need to refute it in order to prevent it from establishing his guilt but you can't.
There's no evidence to dismiss ! Not that I can see anyway.
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There's no evidence to dismiss ! Not that I can see anyway.
I posted a 30,000 word summary of the evidence that convicted him. You relied, "such doesn't prove a thing in your eyes". That amounts to you simply dismissing the evidence. Refuting it requires addressing each point and providing evidence to rebut it. Dismissing it means you just ignore it.
Saying you don't have to bother refuting it because you don't feel it is evidenc eof his guilt just amounts to a dismissal.
Since he was convicted based upon it that evidence has more significance than just coming from me. You have to refute it for him to be innocent in the eyes of the law. Dismissing it doesn't make it go away or prevent it from making him guilty in the eyes of the law.
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I posted a 30,000 word summary of the evidence that convicted him. You relied, "such doesn't prove a thing in your eyes". That amounts to you simply dismissing the evidence. Refuting it requires addressing each point and providing evidence to rebut it. Dismissing it means you just ignore it.
Saying you don't have to bother refuting it because you don't feel it is evidenc eof his guilt just amounts to a dismissal.
Since he was convicted based upon it that evidence has more significance than just coming from me. You have to refute it for him to be innocent in the eyes of the law. Dismissing it doesn't make it go away or prevent it from making him guilty in the eyes of the law.
The reality is that he was convicted by a 10-2 verdict based entirely on his ex girlfriend's evidence (where she no independent witnesses to back her up) and the silencer evidence where again there were no independent witnesses to back up the relative's finding it. That evidence was the entire evidence that he was convicted on. Not on your explanation of the evidence. The jury's minds never even went into it as deeply as you have done. Your explanation of that evidence is only that, your explanation and nothing more. As the evidence stood in 1986 should not have been enough to convict him whether he as guilty or not.
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Hello Neil
yes tyler posted to him when he came on the forum that she had read all his books and really enjoyed them.
Hi Susan, sorry, I've only just seen this. Thanks for that.
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"guilty in the eyes of the law. "
these are the important words .
Does not mean he is actually guilty.
But without time of deaths and every ambiguous statement and situation being "explained" away , then he does not stand a chance.
If EP have nothing to hide - release the files on Jm
And release the info in the boxes held under PII . It only 200 boxes . Give one each to 200 volunteer law student and get them to sign a document saying they will only release the info to an independent person. Simples
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"guilty in the eyes of the law. "
these are the important words .
Does not mean he is actually guilty.
But without time of deaths and every ambiguous statement and situation being "explained" away , then he does not stand a chance.
If EP have nothing to hide - release the files on Jm
And release the info in the boxes held under PII . It only 200 boxes . Give one each to 200 volunteer law student and get them to sign a document saying they will only release the info to an independent person. Simples
It would be a nice gesture - it´s been almost thirty years after all!
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The reality is that he was convicted by a 10-2 verdict based entirely on his ex girlfriend's evidence (where she no independent witnesses to back her up) and the silencer evidence where again there were no independent witnesses to back up the relative's finding it. That evidence was the entire evidence that he was convicted on. Not on your explanation of the evidence. The jury's minds never even went into it as deeply as you have done. Your explanation of that evidence is only that, your explanation and nothing more. As the evidence stood in 1986 should not have been enough to convict him whether he as guilty or not.
This crops up from time to time and should even today be under consideration, a US court of law would have thrown it out back then and today , British justice is poor by any standards.
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Hi Susan, sorry, I've only just seen this. Thanks for that.
Hmmm,I have to confess that I mistook MD for another Paul Harrison that wrote a good book along with David Wilson. I havent as yet read any of the books written by MD/PH. Hope that isn't too confusing. :)
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I wondered about that,tyler,as there is another PH. >>>>>>>>>>>is not confused ;D
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I wondered about that,tyler,as there is another PH. >>>>>>>>>>>is not confused ;D
I offered you the chance to PM me after my 'Sheila on the night' thread. You politely rejected, although my thread had showed it was impossible for Sheila to have committed the massacre. This was confirmed by Professor Bernard Knight. Jeremy accepted his findings and was asked by his lawyer who it could be if it was not Sheila. He said he 'did not know'.
There is a strong chance Jeremy will confess in September 2015. It will be a natural conclusion after a 30 year countdown.
If he does confess, my PM offer still stands. Not just to you, but to everyone.
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I offered you the chance to PM me after my 'Sheila on the night' thread. You politely rejected, although my thread had showed it was impossible for Sheila to have committed the massacre. This was confirmed by Professor Bernard Knight. Jeremy accepted his findings and was asked by his lawyer who it could be if it was not Sheila. He said he 'did not know'.
There is a strong chance Jeremy will confess in September 2015. It will be a natural conclusion after a 30 year countdown.
If he does confess, my PM offer still stands. Not just to you, but to everyone.
I bet you £100 he won't. Do we have a deal?
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I bet you £100 he won't. Do we have a deal?
I'll bet another £100--------yes ?? Name the date !!
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I'll bet another £100--------yes ?? Name the date !!
A thank you for my post 116 would be nice. From both of you.
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A thank you for my post 116 would be nice. From both of you.
Just keep on living in hope.I don't fancy YOUR chances !
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You're treading a dangerous path,as maybe I know a bit more than yourself. ;D
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A thank you for my post 116 would be nice. From both of you.
So you will accept my bet that Bamber will confess before or on September 2015?
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So you will accept my bet that Bamber will confess before or on September 2015?
He specified September Mr G,so stick to that.A lot can/will happen before then. ;D ;D
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I am not a betting man.
But I am a nice man. And available to be PM'd when the announcement is made.
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I am not a betting man.
But I am a nice man. And available to be PM'd when the announcement is made.
Ok Adam I do not usually bet on things. But my offer does show just how confident I am that Bamber will not confess by or on September 2015.
Now I am in doubt that you yourself are so confident in your own assessment.
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Ok Adam I do not usually bet on things. But my offer does show just how confident I am that Bamber will not confess by or on September 2015.
Now I am in doubt that you yourself are so confident in your own assessment.
Everything is looking that way.
Him or a close aide have got wind of Harrison's book content. Result ? A threat.
If a lot of support is lost after the August 2015 book release, Jeremy may use the change in the 'life means life' law he implemented.
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Everything is looking that way.
Him or a close aide have got wind of Harrison's book content. Result ? A threat.
If a lot of support is lost after the August 2015 book release, Jeremy may use the change in the 'life means life' law he implemented.
So you also on a public forum are accusing Jeremy or a close aide of the death threat. Well done Adam. Just jump on the bandwagon why don't you.
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Everything is looking that way.
Him or a close aide have got wind of Harrison's book content. Result ? A threat.
If a lot of support is lost after the August 2015 book release, Jeremy may use the change in the 'life means life' law he implemented.
Well I'm afraid after seeing just how doubtful you are that Bamber will confess these are just empty words Adam.
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Adam, are you on a wind up here or what?
What makes you believe that Harrison has unearthed some ground breaking evidence?
Has he a proven track record for cracking cases?
I would go one further and offer you a £100 bet that Harrison's book tells us nothing new about this case.
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So you also on a public forum are accusing Jeremy or a close aide of the death threat. Well done Adam. Just jump on the bandwagon why don't you.
It's the only route he goes and knows,follow my leader ::) I wonder how many poor men would have been hanged if he'd been the hangman ? ???
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It's the only route he goes and knows,follow my leader ::) I wonder how many poor men would have been hanged if he'd been the hangman ? ???
The thing that amazes me is the closed mind . I think there are several theories about the threat . But no , Adam will just chose the one that suits his agenda and keep on harping on about it . It could have been someone desperate to keep JB in jail, blacken his name even further and get back at his supporters - but no Adam will not even consider that possibility because to him it is another chance to "paint the bigger picture".
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It's the only route he goes and knows,follow my leader ::) I wonder how many poor men would have been hanged if he'd been the hangman ? ???
I was listening to the radio the other day and someone quoted a well known truth, "Those who follow everyone else and tow the line never make history". I think Adam and a lot of those who follow the guilty stance is one of those people?
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I was listening to the radio the other day and someone quoted a well known truth, "Those who follow everyone else and tow the line never make history". I think Adam and a lot of those who follow the guilty stance is one of those people?
Without a doubt.
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I offered you the chance to PM me after my 'Sheila on the night' thread. You politely rejected, although my thread had showed it was impossible for Sheila to have committed the massacre. This was confirmed by Professor Bernard Knight. Jeremy accepted his findings and was asked by his lawyer who it could be if it was not Sheila. He said he 'did not know'.
There is a strong chance Jeremy will confess in September 2015. It will be a natural conclusion after a 30 year countdown.
If he does confess, my PM offer still stands. Not just to you, but to everyone.
You have got to be kidding! I am at a loss for words! :o
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Adam, are you on a wind up here or what?
What makes you believe that Harrison has unearthed some ground breaking evidence?
Has he a proven track record for cracking cases?
I would go one further and offer you a £100 bet that Harrison's book tells us nothing new about this case.
That.
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I think Adam will feel much better when he confesses what the truth is about his connection to the case :) :) :) :) :) :)
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I think Adam will feel much better when he confesses what the truth is about his connection to the case :) :) :) :) :) :)
I've thought that all along.
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a sad case - no previous violence - reduction in medication
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2815496/Farmingdale-mom-beheaded-suicidal-son-couldn-t-medication-time-prevent-tragedy.html
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I read about this sad case. Nobody knew how ill Derek was.!
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2014:
Information is acquired about the contents of Paul Harrison's forthcoming book on the case. Harrison receives threatening letters and suspicious contacts from a female Essex publisher.
Harrison says he believes that Jeremy is behind the threats. He also says he has got conclusive proof that will once and fall all show the police got the right man.
August 2015:
Harrison's book is published. The new evidence, if correct looks damning. The Campaign for Freedom' team make no comment.
September 2015:
Jeremy confessors and apologises. He says he is hoping to prove he is reformed and able to live some of his final years outside prison as the 'Life means life' law no longer exists.
I wonder if Adam has rescheduled the countdown to a later date? :-\
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1985:
Jeremy is charged with 5X murder. The best available lawyers are hired, Paul Terezon and David Napley.
The defence lawyers realise it is going to be an extremely difficult case to win. Several psychiatrists and forensic experts are hired. Such as Professor Bernard Knight, David Lincoln and John Hayward. None are able to bolster the defence's case.
1986:
A year after being charged and after a 21 day trial, the jury find Jeremy Bamber guilty.
1986 - 2001:
The 'Campaign for Freedom' begins. More experts and lawyers are brought in. Geoffrey Rivlin continues to assist Jeremy, Mark Webster examines the blood evidence and Professor Leon McDonnell looks at forensic evidence. None are able to assist Jeremy.
A COA application is rejected.
The 'Life means life' law is made. Affecting around 50 prisoners. Jeremy the only one to protest his innocence.
A complaint against Essex police is made. This is dismissed. Jeremy reacts by writing 'FREE BAMBER HE IS INNOCENT' in excrement on prison walls.
Jeremy co operates on Wilkes's book. However his charm was not able to turn it into Pro Jeremy book.
2002:
The COA dismiss an application. Hiring their own expert Dr Ismail who acquires new information. The judges saying 'The more we look at the case, the more we believe the jury were right'.
The relatives said they were dismayed that the CCRC passed the case to the COA.
2003 - 2011:
The emergence of the internet gives the ' Campaign for Freedom' a boost.
Politicians and reporters are contacted.
Wild accusations are made about moving bodies, conversations inside WHF & Neville phoning the police.
Jeremy announces to the press he passed a lie detector test.
Expensive rifle tests are carried out in Arizona and peak time TV programmes dedicate time to the case in the build up to the 2012 CCRC application.
2012:
The CCRC fail to pass Jeremy's application to the COA. Nothing is released on why. Although similar to 2002, the CCRC may have obtained new information from experts highlighting guilt further.
Many people believe this is the end of the road. The 'Campaign for Freedom' remains defiant however Jeremy amazingly turns attention to the 'Life means life' law.
2013:
Jeremy and two other prisoners successfully get the 'Life means Life' order negated. Although Jeremy is unable to benefit as he still protests his innocence.
2014:
Information is acquired about the contents of Paul Harrison's forthcoming book on the case. Harrison receives threatening letters and suspicious contacts from a female Essex publisher.
Harrison says he believes that Jeremy is behind the threats. He also says he has got conclusive proof that will once and fall all show the police got the right man.
August 2015:
Harrison's book is published. The new evidence, if correct looks damning. The Campaign for Freedom' team make no comment.
September 2015:
Jeremy confessors and apologises. He says he is hoping to prove he is reformed and able to live some of his final years outside prison as the 'Life means life' law no longer exists.
Lol. Yes Bamber has not confessed and has ruined my timeline.
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Why should he confess just to please you or the public when the man has done nothing ? Would you ?
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Why should he confess just to please you or the public when the man has done nothing ? Would you ?
:) That's right. The man has done nothing.
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:) That's right. The man has done nothing.
EXACTLY !!
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1985:
September 2015:
Jeremy confessors and apologises. He says he is hoping to prove he is reformed and able to live some of his final years outside prison as the 'Life means life' law no longer exists.
What confession?