Jeremy Bamber Forum
JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on October 08, 2014, 11:36:PM
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From next week I am setting up a service to allow members of the forum, to speak directly to me (at specified times) where I am willing to be questioned about issues in the case - please note, that anyone seeking to be abusive to me, will be banned from the forum, and I will be keeping a record of phone calls where abuse is used...
I will post the telephone (mobile) No. I can be reached at, but this may alter from time time, but I will be posting details when I will be available and the number I can be contacted at...
Please remember to start the conversation by introducing yourselves by reference to your forum user name...
I will be posting my first contact number in an attachment which is only accessible to members of the forum...
THANK YOU...
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Later in the week, members will be able to speak to me directly, on the following mobile number:-
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Please note, that the contact number is only temporary, and that I may change the contact number at a moments notice (especially if abuse starts to rear its ugly heas...
If you've got questions for me about the case, pick up the phone and speak to me about it...
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I am hoping to be on line by Friday evening, of this week...
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Make a note of the number, I will make myself available for a specified period on a given date, for questions about the case...
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Informants, please use the alternative contact number, already available...
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how will you know if the person phoning you is really who they say they are.
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Informants, please use the alternative contact number, already available...
Ok
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how will you know if the person phoning you is really who they say they are.
that is a good question...
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What I propose to do, is ask all members who might engage in the offered service, to please do not be deceptive and try to conceal your forum identity from me, but if any member should not wish to identify themselves to me, then I am still prepared to speak to them, and I will respect them for not wanting to disclose their forum identity...
It looks like, Friday evening will be the launch of this service to all forum members...
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I have purchased a new phone, and sim card, specifically for use of this service...
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What I propose to do, is ask all members who might engage in the offered service, to please do not be deceptive and try to conceal your forum identity from me, but if any member should not wish to identify themselves to me, then I am still prepared to speak to them, and I will respect them for not wanting to disclose their forum identity...
It looks like, Friday evening will be the launch of this service to all forum members...
i was just thinking what if one member pretends to be another member.
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i was just thinking what if one member pretends to be another member.
That is a good point...
Perhaps I could ask callers to provide their internet IP ADDRESS, when they call me, as back up...
I would never divulge such personal information, but as the owner of the forum, I have access to members IP Addresses, and maybe I could validate a members IP address, before I answer any questions (by the way, moderators also have access to this information, but no-one divulges this information), so perhaps use of USER NAME and IP address could be the way forward...
Hope this helps...
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I am looking forward to speaking in person to members of the forum....
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I apologise in advance, to all those members who wish to speak to me about any case on the forum of which I have not yet had an opportunity to make myself familiar with - speak to me about it, if I can help I will...
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i was just thinking what if one member pretends to be another member.
Nugs,I think that those who know me,certainly know that there's only ONE of me. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Once heard,never forgotten. ;D Mike will have no problem. Look forward to posing a question.
I hope he doesn't get any abuse,it's so cowardly.
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Maybe would be a good idea to arrange it via PM shortly before the phone call - so you can be sure who you are talking to.
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Maybe would be a good idea to arrange it via PM shortly before the phone call - so you can be sure who you are talking to.
Yes, I think I will adopt that approach, thanks...
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Mike, you´ll know when it´s me - the foreign accent..... :P
And the sweet thing is, no one can pretend to be me, my accent is unique. A mix between a Danish and an Icelandic accent. No one can fake that!! ;)
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Alias like my accent which is unique a mixture of Yorkshire and Scottish ;D ;D ;D nobody could pretend to be me not even me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Make a note of the number, I will make myself available for a specified period on a given date, for questions about the case...
I don't know what questions people would have that can't be asked publicly.
The questions I have I already asked publicly such as why did you claim you personally saw a photo of Sheila in bed though you didn't and why do you make up other things so clearly untrue that we all know it is untrue. It seems pointless.
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Alias like my accent which is unique a mixture of Yorkshire and Scottish ;D ;D ;D nobody could pretend to be me not even me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
LOL
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Maybe would be a good idea to arrange it via PM shortly before the phone call - so you can be sure who you are talking to.
Good idea Mat - or they could pm with a 4 digit number that mike could write down for future reference.
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I don't know what questions people would have that can't be asked publicly.
The questions I have I already asked publicly such as why did you claim you personally saw a photo of Sheila in bed though you didn't and why do you make up other things so clearly untrue that we all know it is untrue. It seems pointless.
that's ok - its not obligatory ;)
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that's ok - its not obligatory ;)
What a shame, I´d like to see Mike and Skippy do some bonding.
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What a shame, I´d like to see Mike and Skippy do some bonding.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D funniest thing I have heard for ages.
Anyway Mike would know from his American accent ;)
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. . . by the way, moderators also have access to this information
I haven't noticed any such access. I doubt that it exists except for the admins.
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I don't know what questions people would have that can't be asked publicly.
The questions I have I already asked publicly such as why did you claim you personally saw a photo of Sheila in bed though you didn't and why do you make up other things so clearly untrue that we all know it is untrue. It seems pointless.
photographs of Sheila do exist, I am not bothered if you try to ridicule that fact, it's all true, she wss on the bed, befire police stage managed her body on the bedroom floor...
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I haven't noticed any such access. I doubt that it exists except for the admins.
It exists, you only need to know where to look...
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I don't know what questions people would have that can't be asked publicly.
The questions I have I already asked publicly such as why did you claim you personally saw a photo of Sheila in bed though you didn't and why do you make up other things so clearly untrue that we all know it is untrue. It seems pointless.
The Independent newspaper reported that Sheila was on the bed,and that came via EP who were being interviewed. 2010.
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photographs of Sheila do exist, I am not bothered if you try to ridicule that fact, it's all true, she wss on the bed, befire police stage managed her body on the bedroom floor...
But you claim you saw the photos which would mean Jeremy's defense lawyers saw them which means it would have been raised on appeal.
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But you claim you saw the photos which would mean Jeremy's defense lawyers saw them which means it would have been raised on appeal.
Not entirely true, since only one of the photographs of Sheila on the bed was amongst the 'Senior Investigating Officers album' given to Ewen Smith by Essex police (because Ewen got the CCRC to force Essex police to give him access to it, on the basis that Ewen was soon to become a CCRC Commissioner). I have seen a second photograph of Sheila on the bed at a time when she only had one bullet wound in her neck, shown to me by one of the police officers who worked on the case. How did Essex police take photographs of Sheila on the bed, and on the floor, if they did not stage manage her body? How could police have photographs of Sheila with one bullet wound on the neck whilst her body is in the bed, and other photographs with her body on the bedroom floor with two bullit wounds to her neck?
How odd that several key police witnesses all make the same nistake of describing the position of Sheila's body 'on the far side of the bed' - Dr Craig, PI Miller, DS Jones, DC Clarke, PC Wright, DCI Jones, and Ann Eaton...
In addition, the newspapers of the day carried stories of the police finding Sheila's body on the bed, some stories placed her body on the bed next to June Bambers body, some with a rifle between them, other newspaper repirts simply have Sheila on the bed alone, with the rifle either next to her body on the bed, or on top of her body whilst she is on the bed, some reports have a bible on her chest, but the only photographs of a bible which has officially been disclosed are of a bible on the bedroom floor next to the body after it has been moved to the floor. It looks like the bible has been deliberately put there in the disclosed photographs to try and hide a pool of blood that got there whilst Sheila's body was rolled onto its right side. It is a fact that when Sheila's body was in that position laid upon its right side on the floor that the Rifle could not have been on her body at that stage. Somebody, god knows who (but it cannot have been Jeremy), rolled Sheila back over so that her body was in the supine position, and the put the rifle on her body and arranged her right hand upon the gun...
This is the absolute truth concerning what happened...
The police shot and killed Sheila, there is no doubt whatsoever about this, that that is what they did...
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I haven't noticed any such access. I doubt that it exists except for the admins.
Admins and Global Mods.
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The documentation indicates that would mean the global mods have been given "moderate members" permission, which confers several other abilities as well.
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The documentation indicates that would mean the global mods have been given "moderate members" permission, which confers several other abilities as well.
I think the only additional power is to impose bans.
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Hoping to home by 10.30pm, just returning from from Witham, Essex...
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Not entirely true, since only one of the photographs of Sheila on the bed was amongst the 'Senior Investigating Officers album' given to Ewen Smith by Essex police (because Ewen got the CCRC to force Essex police to give him access to it, on the basis that Ewen was soon to become a CCRC Commissioner). I have seen a second photograph of Sheila on the bed at a time when she only had one bullet wound in her neck, shown to me by one of the police officers who worked on the case. How did Essex police take photographs of Sheila on the bed, and on the floor, if they did not stage manage her body? How could police have photographs of Sheila with one bullet wound on the neck whilst her body is in the bed, and other photographs with her body on the bedroom floor with two bullit wounds to her neck?
How odd that several key police witnesses all make the same nistake of describing the position of Sheila's body 'on the far side of the bed' - Dr Craig, PI Miller, DS Jones, DC Clarke, PC Wright, DCI Jones, and Ann Eaton...
In addition, the newspapers of the day carried stories of the police finding Sheila's body on the bed, some stories placed her body on the bed next to June Bambers body, some with a rifle between them, other newspaper repirts simply have Sheila on the bed alone, with the rifle either next to her body on the bed, or on top of her body whilst she is on the bed, some reports have a bible on her chest, but the only photographs of a bible which has officially been disclosed are of a bible on the bedroom floor next to the body after it has been moved to the floor. It looks like the bible has been deliberately put there in the disclosed photographs to try and hide a pool of blood that got there whilst Sheila's body was rolled onto its right side. It is a fact that when Sheila's body was in that position laid upon its right side on the floor that the Rifle could not have been on her body at that stage. Somebody, god knows who (but it cannot have been Jeremy), rolled Sheila back over so that her body was in the supine position, and the put the rifle on her body and arranged her right hand upon the gun...
This is the absolute truth concerning what happened...
The police shot and killed Sheila, there is no doubt whatsoever about this, that that is what they did...
If the newspapers did assert she was in bed it was through error and doesn't prove a thing.
Your claim a cop stole a photo and showed it to you but no lawyers connected to the defense is not credible at all. Especially in light of the pool of blood on the floor which would not have been there if she had been killed in bed.
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Hoping to home by 10.30pm, just returning from from Witham, Essex...
You should have given me a call Mike. We could have has a cup of tea together and a chat. :)
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I don't know what questions people would have that can't be asked publicly.
The questions I have I already asked publicly such as why did you claim you personally saw a photo of Sheila in bed though you didn't and why do you make up other things so clearly untrue that we all know it is untrue. It seems pointless.
Good observation scipio. One question could be why is this forum still here when Jeremy Bamber clearly indicated he had lost faith in it and wanted it closed down.
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If the newspapers did assert she was in bed it was through error and doesn't prove a thing.
Your claim a cop stole a photo and showed it to you but no lawyers connected to the defense is not credible at all. Especially in light of the pool of blood on the floor which would not have been there if she had been killed in bed.
Spot on scipio. Had Sheila been on the bed her blood would have been on it too. Sheila was shot twice in the neck where she was found, on the floor by the bed. The only time she was moved was to put her in a coffin before being taken to the morgue.
Anything else is simply fantasy.
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. . . one of the photographs of Sheila on the bed was amongst the 'Senior Investigating Officers album' given to Ewen Smith by Essex police
What type of image of that photograph did you make?
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What type of image of that photograph did you make?
He is claiming he doesn't have a copy that he only saw this photo. He is also claiming Ewen Smith never shared it with subsequent defense counsel which not only sounds outrageously ridiculous, I think he had better consider the issue of defamation before he keeps publicly making such charges.
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I'm asking about the photograph he sent to Jeremy. He later said he was looking for it, so he had made a copy of some kind. I'm asking what kind.
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He is claiming he doesn't have a copy that he only saw this photo. He is also claiming Ewen Smith never shared it with subsequent defense counsel which not only sounds outrageously ridiculous, I think he had better consider the issue of defamation before he keeps publicly making such charges.
In actual fact scipio Mike said he stole the photo from the album on the desk of Ewen Smith and then put it in the CCRC's letter box. So I don't know why that has now morphed into a detective taking it? I'm confused.
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In actual fact scipio Mike said he stole the photo from the album on the desk of Ewen Smith and then put it in the CCRC's letter box. So I don't know why that has now morphed into a detective taking it? I'm confused.
Yeh!! You and me both.......................big time :D :D :D
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In actual fact scipio Mike said he stole the photo from the album on the desk of Ewen Smith and then put it in the CCRC's letter box. So I don't know why that has now morphed into a detective taking it? I'm confused.
That must have been before my time. He didn't mention anything about stelaing it that I saw. The fact he keeps changing his account though only makes it worse.
It already is an incredible claim without having to tell more than 1 story of how he saw it or what he did with it.
He might not possess anything worth suing him for but sometimes defamation suits are more for principle. He should think about that before dragging people into his fish stories.
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In actual fact scipio Mike said he stole the photo from the album on the desk of Ewen Smith and then put it in the CCRC's letter box. So I don't know why that has now morphed into a detective taking it? I'm confused.
Huh? I thought he said he sent it to Jeremy and it was confiscated?
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Huh? I thought he said he sent it to Jeremy and it was confiscated?
Yes. Apparently he sent it to the prison where staff opened it and confiscated it. Presumably they still have it.
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One was sent to the prison where is still apparently sits in Jeremy's prison file. The second wasn't posted in the CCRC letter box it was apparently handed to someone on guard/reception.
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Yes. Apparently he sent it to the prison where staff opened it and confiscated it. Presumably they still have it.
and what would one rationally do with such if they obtained it? Provide it to Jeremy's lawyers...
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and what would one rationally do with such if they obtained it? Provide it to Jeremy's lawyers...
???? really ? Why would they want to help his cause ?
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???? really ? Why would they want to help his cause ?
Why wouldn't they though? The prison screws can't be in on this big conspiracy too, surely?
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Why wouldn't they though? The prison screws can't be in on this big conspiracy too, surely?
I would have thought they would have handed it to their "bosses" they would not want to get involved .
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Why wouldn't they though? The prison screws can't be in on this big conspiracy too, surely?
Anyone can be bought at a price.
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and what would one rationally do with such if they obtained it? Provide it to Jeremy's lawyers...
Confiscated as in seized, impounded, appropriated. NO, Scipio, I doubt very much that Jeremy's lawyers saw it. Why would they?
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Huh? I thought he said he sent it to Jeremy and it was confiscated?
That is another copy of the picture he had. Pity he didn't save us a copy. ::)
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and what would one rationally do with such if they obtained it? Provide it to Jeremy's lawyers...
I advised Mike to do just that if he had such a photo.
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tbh -I am not sure I have ever believed this .
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it would be easy to make it fit what the police said in the first few days , but unless I saw it with my own eyes I would have to be sceptical.
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That must have been before my time. He didn't mention anything about stelaing it that I saw. The fact he keeps changing his account though only makes it worse.
It already is an incredible claim without having to tell more than 1 story of how he saw it or what he did with it.
He might not possess anything worth suing him for but sometimes defamation suits are more for principle. He should think about that before dragging people into his fish stories.
Right again scipio. He originally claimed he sneaked a quick peek at the photos while Smith was out of the room. Now the story has changed so what's new.
You can add that defamation to the others, especially the claim that a certain Essex copper shot Sheila.
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I advised Mike to do just that if he had such a photo.
Which is another reason I don't buy it.
I already didn't buy it because:
1) police would have no reason to move her body from the bed to the floor wihin the first 10-20 minutes of finding her body
2) it would require all police who went upstairs to lie
3) if they were going to move her body and all lie WHY would they take a photo of he rin bed before moving her?
4) there would be blood on the bed instead of the pool of blood on the bedroom floor.
Mike's accounts just make it more unbelievable.
He effectively claimed he stole it from the CCRC and then sends it right back to them instead of giving it to Jeremy's lawyers to use in a submission to the CCRC?
My reaction is the same as Mr Hand's initial reaction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wXs_1V7KiA
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Phone is now active...
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In actual fact scipio Mike said he stole the photo from the album on the desk of Ewen Smith and then put it in the CCRC's letter box. So I don't know why that has now morphed into a detective taking it? I'm confused.
No, mike tesko said a different photograph, that he'd been shown but never possessed, was handed in to the CCRC. He previously stated that he took a photograph from Ewen Smith, reproduced it, and sent the original to Jeremy. The prison authorities didn't give Jeremy the original, and mike tesko hasn't explained how he reproduced it or why he can't find the reproduction.
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No, mike tesko said a different photograph, that he'd been shown but never possessed, was handed in to the CCRC. He previously stated that he took a photograph from Ewen Smith, reproduced it, and sent the original to Jeremy. The prison authorities didn't give Jeremy the original, and mike tesko hasn't explained how he reproduced it or why he can't find the reproduction.
The prison sevice confiscated the photograph of Sheila on the bed, sent by me to Jeremy,and banned me from communicating with Jeremy by use of the RULE 37A, system that I sent the photograph to Jeremy in. They also banned Jeremy from receiving other private information from GDS using the same system, because of the contents I posted to him using it. Jeremy was not very happy with me, and the prison service, because he was about to dispose of the services of Ewen Smith, and he had secretly engaged GDS as his legal advisor by this stage, and need the privilege of RULE 37A to further an appeal of his case. Any way, I ended up contacting the Governor at HMP Full Sutton by letter, explainibg that I had previously been approved by the police and the Home Office, to act in the capacity of Bambers Mckensie man, and that whilst enjoying that role I had been permitted to communicate with Jeremy by way of the RULE 37A system, and that no-one had informed me that I could not do so anymore. I asked the governor to allow Jeremy the contents of my letter because he needed the photograph enclosed of Sheila's body on the bed, as a key piece of evidence in any forthcoming appeal application. I also invited the governor to reinstate Bambers privilege involving use of RULE 37A so that he could continue to communicate in privacy with his pitential new legal advisor (GDS). I did not get a reply, but found out that Jeremy had been trying to get to see the letter I had posted to him subject of the confiscation, including the photograph. Later Jeremy informed me that he had now got his RULE 37A privilege back and could now communicate with GDS. But, he had been refused an opportunity to see my letter and the photograph of Sheila on the bed, which had been placed in his prison file...
My leeter and contents were intercepted by the prison service after lustening to me telling Jeremy on the evening I got the photograoh of Sheila on the bed at Ewens office in Birmingham. I told Jeremy on the phone that same evening I obtained the photograph, that I had got a photograph of Sheila's body on the bed with no rifle on her body at all. I told him that there was no gun either on her bidy or next to her on the bed, and no bible on her or near to her on the bed. Jeremy asked me to describe what is visible in the photograph in my possession at that time, and I told him everything about the pisition of her bidy on the bed, and that the photographer had been standing in the region at the foot of the bed in the main bedroom, and that Sheila did not have underwear on and that you could see her crutch which was unshaven because the hem of her nightie was ridden up clise to the top of her thighs...
Jeremy asked me to send the photigraph in to him, which is what I did, along with details of how I had come aboyt the enclised photograph...
I can only assume that the prisin authorities confuscated my letter and photograph because of tge nature in which I had obtaibed it, and because of the potentially photographic nature of Sheila's image on the bed in such an exposed state and position. Everything I have said is absolutely true regarding the afirementioned photograoh of Sheila's body on the bed, I have no reason to kie ir to make up something like that or this...
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How did you make a reproduction of the photograph before sending it to Jeremy?