Jeremy Bamber Forum
JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: Adam on August 23, 2014, 05:24:AM
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One bullet for Sheila certainly. He must have cringed when he realised another bullet was needed.
One bullet would leave 9/10 bullets left. Did Jeremy think that was enough ? If he did he over estimated the rifle power. Neville got downstairs after receiving four shots, including head shots, and June got out of bed after a head shot while her head was on the pillow.
It may have been possible to kill the twins with one shot each. But if they were shot last, Jeremy would have already fired lots of bullets. So would have no choice but to fire lots of bullets into the twins, to make it look like a crazy killing.
Jeremy having to re load turned out to be a big problem. AE immediately got suspicious. Only believing Sheila had fired 11 bullets because that is what she had been told. When she found out Sheila had re loaded twice she knew she was not guilty.
If if was an 'open & shut' case as Jeremy told Julie it was, the re loads were not a problem. However it soon came to light that there was no evidence on Sheila showing that she had reloaded. Jeremy also eventually back tracked and admitted Sheila had no experience with guns.
Do people believe Jeremy's plan was not to re load, but failed in this plan ? Or believe he did not care or consider whether he would have to re load ?
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In 1985 there was no internet. So unless Jeremy actually read books or asked experts, he would not not know that Sheila would have left forensic evidence after re loading. Just as he would not be aware of blood back splatter.
If he did know about these things he would have dumped the silencer and made sure the correct evidence was on Sheila.
Or may have known about this but assumed the police would not check. But that is shoddy work for someone who had been planning the massacre for so long.
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If Jeremy was 'not' expecting to have to re load, he would not be aware that evidence would exist on Sheila that she had re loaded.
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Would a crazy Sheila in a psychotic rage really re load ?
After firing off all the bullets in the rifle, and then brutally beating Neville, perhaps she had let off enough steam ?
But no, she calmed down enough to re load and fire more bullets into her family.
Oh I forgot, she wanted to kill herself.
Note to myself - Do not offer free summer holiday to relations.
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Would a crazy Sheila in a psychotic rage really re load ?
After firing off all the bullets in the rifle, and then brutally beating Neville, perhaps she had let off enough steam ?
But no, she calmed down enough to re load and fire more bullets into her family.
Oh I forgot, she wanted to kill herself.
Note to myself - Do not offer free summer holiday to relations.
Yes, that is somewhat unbelievable.
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Adam wont waste my time asking you if I can come to stay then :'(
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Adam wont waste my time asking you if I can come to stay then :'(
Of course you can stay. I will cook you a meal.
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Adam yummy yummy ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Adam yummy yummy ;D ;D ;D ;D
How do you know he is a good cook? It might not be so yummy.
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One bullet for Sheila certainly. He must have cringed when he realised another bullet was needed.
One bullet would leave 9/10 bullets left. Did Jeremy think that was enough ? If he did he over estimated the rifle power. Neville got downstairs after receiving four shots, including head shots, and June got out of bed after a head shot while her head was on the pillow.
It may have been possible to kill the twins with one shot each. But if they were shot last, Jeremy would have already fired lots of bullets. So would have no choice but to fire lots of bullets into the twins, to make it look like a crazy killing.
Jeremy having to re load turned out to be a big problem. AE immediately got suspicious. Only believing Sheila had fired 11 bullets because that is what she had been told. When she found out Sheila had re loaded twice she knew she was not guilty.
If if was an 'open & shut' case as Jeremy told Julie it was, the re loads were not a problem. However it soon came to light that there was no evidence on Sheila showing that she had reloaded. Jeremy also eventually back tracked and admitted Sheila had no experience with guns.
Do people believe Jeremy's plan was not to re load, but failed in this plan ? Or believe he did not care or consider whether he would have to re load ?
10-11 shots would have been sufficient to kill 5 people provided they were fired in the right locations. His parents woke up, they moved and he freaked out and didn't aim that great and thus Nevill was still alive by the time he emptied the weapon.
Jeremy saw nothing wrong with her reloading the weapon because he pretended he left the bullets to do so in the kitchen for her to use. He staged too many bullets though, more incredulous is that she would use 20 bullets from the supply in th ekitchen but go to the closet to get the last 5 bullets though 30 stil remained in the kitchen. Equally incredulous is that she would get the moderator from the closet and use it then put it away before killing herself. That is the defense's claim anyway, the prosecution says it was used to kill Sheila as well. He didn't plan anyone would be able to figure out it was used at all and at first it wasn't.
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Scipio if his cooking is as good as all the work he puts into his posts it will be yummy and he did promise earlier to wear a bow tie only which will be worth the visit ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Scipio if his cooking is as good as all the work he puts into his posts it will be yummy and he did promise earlier to wear a bow tie only which will be worth the visit ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Susan, please remember what Hannibel Lecter did to his dinner guests.
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Hello april
do you think I should cancel you are not jealous are you ;D I am sure if you are nice to him you could come along ;D ;D ;D
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Hello april
do you think I should cancel you are not jealous are you ;D I am sure if you are nice to him you could come along ;D ;D ;D
Susan, you're the only one who can make that decision. He could be the love of your life. Definitely NOT my type so I won't spoil it for you by playing gooseberry but thank-you for the kind thought.
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Hello april
do you think I should cancel you are not jealous are you ;D I am sure if you are nice to him you could come along ;D ;D ;D
You could all sit there passing the sauce. Sauce please! Finally it would make sense!
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You could all sit there passing the sauce. Sauce please! Finally it would make sense!
It would have to be a particularly delicate sauce to accompany brains, Alias :) It's source would have to be kept secret ;)
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Scipio if his cooking is as good as all the work he puts into his posts it will be yummy and he did promise earlier to wear a bow tie only which will be worth the visit ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You want to eat food cooked by a nude person? Makes me think of Seinfeld...
The funny thing about that is that I spoke to a nudist from Europe and she said that in Europe nudists always dress for dinner, she was implying US nudists do not. New York is not a nudist haven so I have no idea what nudists do. She talked about several differences but that is the only one I remember.
skip to 4:20 into the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2J2wDw4jHg
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You want to eat food cooked by a nude person? Makes me think of Seinfeld...
The funny thing about that is that I spoke to a nudist from Europe and she said that in Europe nudists always dress for dinner, she was implying US nudists do not. New York is not a nudist haven so I have no idea what nudists do. She talked about several differences but that is the only one I remember.
skip to 4:20 into the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2J2wDw4jHg
Love Seinfeld, recorded all of them on Sky, also love Curb Your Enthusiasm - brilliant!!
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Scipio very funny think I will make Adam fully dress for the cooking ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Love Seinfeld, recorded all of them on Sky, also love Curb Your Enthusiasm - brilliant!!
The last season of Seinfeld got stupid, it was still funny enough but more cartoonesqe and ludicrous. That might see like a silly thing to say given some of the crazy things in the prior seasons but Kramer using butter on his skin and Newman picturing him as a cooked turkey like out of an old cartoon was a big let down compared to the prior seasons. The finale was pretty lousy for such a great show. Larry David did not take part in the last season so that explains why it went down hill and of course he is behind Curb Your Enthusiasm...
Some of the best episodes were spent in a single location like when they lost the car in the mall parking deck or waiting to be seated at the Chinese restaurant because you could identify with what they were going through. It was so good that it is hard to pick a favorite episode. he Hamptons shrinkage episode was great but so was when Kramer burned the cabin down, the Beefareeno episode (with the farting horse and flying bread), the Soup Nazi, when Kramer and Newman drove to Michigan with the bottles and Golf Clubs were thrown at them. Susan being killed was not funny and probably the worst part save some of the final episodes.
It amazes me that there are people who don't find Seinfeld funny. I think most of them never gave it a chance and turned it off while he did the initial standup. You have to have no sense of humor at all not to find at least some of it funny.