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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on August 13, 2014, 08:07:AM

Title: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: mike tesko on August 13, 2014, 08:07:AM
 There is no evidence the a lamp shade in the main kitchen got broken during any death struggle involving Ralph and his killer. There was no shards of broken glass found upon the soles of Ralph Bambers feet. Similarly, there was no shards of broken glass found upon his pyjamas, or in his hair...

Additionally, and perhaps most significantly, there was no particles of glass found anywhere upon the surface of the sound moderstor, or anshuzt rifle barrel...
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: mike tesko on August 13, 2014, 08:17:AM
It is much more likely, I think that with half a dozen or so firearms officers following one another into the kitchen that mist of them, particularly those following in the queue behind, had the barrels of there weapons pointing upward so as to prevent shooting a colleague in the back, and that it was at this time the lamp shade got broken - by the barrel of a gun belonging ti the police...
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: lookout on August 13, 2014, 08:27:AM
 I read that somewhere,Mike. That they were in single file,guns at the ready.
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: scipio_usmc on August 13, 2014, 10:30:PM
There is no evidence the a lamp shade in the main kitchen got broken during any death struggle involving Ralph and his killer. There was no shards of broken glass found upon the soles of Ralph Bambers feet. Similarly, there was no shards of broken glass found upon his pyjamas, or in his hair...

Additionally, and perhaps most significantly, there was no particles of glass found anywhere upon the surface of the sound moderstor, or anshuzt rifle barrel...

Nevill was found in an area of the kitchen where there was no glass on the floor.  The killer in contrast had to walk over glass to get out and even to beat and shoot Nevill.

I know next you will say Sheila had a jet pack and police concealed finding it jsut liek they concealed finding clthing covere din blood and GSR that she changed out of...

Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: lookout on August 14, 2014, 12:08:PM
 Those blue socks would have been worn by Sheila,then the slippers/ canvas shoes which were taken by one of the officers who apparently said to AE " you didn't see those ?".

Because of the small amount of blood on the sole/heel of Sheilas' foot,it tells me that she must have worn something on her feet,or how did she come by the blood on her feet if she'd have been asleep in bed,then dead on the floor ?
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: mike tesko on August 14, 2014, 11:23:PM
Nevill was found in an area of the kitchen where there was no glass on the floor.  The killer in contrast had to walk over glass to get out and even to beat and shoot Nevill.

I know next you will say Sheila had a jet pack and police concealed finding it jsut liek they concealed finding clthing covere din blood and GSR that she changed out of...

Stop being a pathetic fool, you ignoramus twat...

I don't have to suggest anything other than the truth and established facts, all you can do is invent things and keep repeating the inaccurate suggestion that I am lying...

Well, twat, I don't tell lies, I base everything I say on the truth, even though some of the things I make mention of appear to contradict what I have said previously - this is because the facts I rely upon in presenting different arguments exist in one form or another, in documentation form, in testimony, or in official photographs...

When you accuse me of being a liar, you are inadvertently calling the witnesses who introduce information and material, liars which by the way includes police officers and relatives, so you keep calling me a liar "twat", because in so doing you are effectively calling police officers, and individual relatives liars. God, you really are a thick bastard...

Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: scipio_usmc on August 15, 2014, 01:37:AM
Those blue socks would have been worn by Sheila,then the slippers/ canvas shoes which were taken by one of the officers who apparently said to AE " you didn't see those ?".

Because of the small amount of blood on the sole/heel of Sheilas' foot,it tells me that she must have worn something on her feet,or how did she come by the blood on her feet if she'd have been asleep in bed,then dead on the floor ?

No one has presented any evidence of blood on her feet. Those who saw her body said there was none. 

The cop told Ann Eaton she didn't see them taking the paint sample, not while taking shoes.
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: lookout on August 15, 2014, 09:34:AM
No one has presented any evidence of blood on her feet. Those who saw her body said there was none. 

The cop told Ann Eaton she didn't see them taking the paint sample, not while taking shoes.





Of course there was blood on her foot/feet. There were two pages of a newspaper not too long ago showing this.
You're either a gullible fool or as I've said before,there's something radically wrong with you that you HAVE to find fault with everyones' post. Grow up !!
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: scipio_usmc on August 15, 2014, 09:28:PM

Of course there was blood on her foot/feet. There were two pages of a newspaper not too long ago showing this.
You're either a gullible fool or as I've said before,there's something radically wrong with you that you HAVE to find fault with everyones' post. Grow up !!

No there was a claim made by Jeremy to the newspapers that a photo that may or may not have been of Sheila's foot had blood on it.  The supposed blood looked liek dirt or just marks to the skin not blood and only a test of the body could determine whether any marks were blood.  he people who actually saw her feet and examined her said there was no blood.



Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: lookout on August 15, 2014, 10:17:PM
It was blood !!
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: scipio_usmc on August 16, 2014, 01:05:AM
It was blood !!

You also insist June wasn't shot in bed and a whole load of crazy things so your claim without support means even less than someone else's unsupported claim.
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: mike tesko on August 16, 2014, 03:35:AM
Prosecutions argument was that her feet were spotlessly clean, but they did not disclose any photographs showing that her feet were as they said - the photograph Jeremy later got access to clearly shows that her feet were not spotlessly clean, thus exposing another part of the prosecutions case as a falsehood...

FACT...
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: Alias on August 16, 2014, 03:52:AM
looks like blood to me not just dirt
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: lookout on August 16, 2014, 09:09:AM
You also insist June wasn't shot in bed and a whole load of crazy things so your claim without support means even less than someone else's unsupported claim.




I've never heard anything as far-fetched as YOUR own Sermons. Keep on being your critical,ignorant self and you'll get it back tenfold !
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: JackiePreece on August 16, 2014, 10:03:AM
Prosecutions argument was that her feet were spotlessly clean, but they did not disclose any photographs showing that her feet were as they said - the photograph Jeremy later got access to clearly shows that her feet were not spotlessly clean, thus exposing another part of the prosecutions case as a falsehood...

FACT...

Same !
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: mike tesko on August 16, 2014, 11:34:AM
To my knowlege, SOCO did not take any broken glass samples from the main kitchen floor, which suggests in the clearest possible terms that the lampshade in the main kitchen was broken when police forcibly entered the main kitchen...
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: mike tesko on August 16, 2014, 11:36:AM
To my knowlege, SOCO did not take any broken glass samples from the main kitchen floor, which suggests in the clearest possible terms that the lampshade in the main kitchen was broken when police forcibly entered the main kitchen...

If police had got around to taking such a broken glass sample from the main kitchen, it would originally have had an exhibit reference of ALIE/1...

Maybe altered later into, APORKY/367, because so much of the evidence was a lie...
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: mike tesko on August 16, 2014, 11:41:AM
The broken glass evidence introduced by those from the dark side of life, is nothing but a red herring...
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: mike tesko on August 16, 2014, 11:46:AM
Approaching the subject from a slughtly different angle, no shards of brojen glass were found on Ralphs pyjamas, or Sheila's nightdress, and ni blood from any victim was present upon any broken glass upon the main kitchen floor - no-one bled upon the blood after the lampshade was broken, which tells its own story...
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: scipio_usmc on August 17, 2014, 02:15:AM
To my knowlege, SOCO did not take any broken glass samples from the main kitchen floor, which suggests in the clearest possible terms that the lampshade in the main kitchen was broken when police forcibly entered the main kitchen...

Take glass samples to compare to what?  They thought Sheila did it.  By the time Jeremy was a suspect he had plenty of time to get rid of the shoes he wore. 
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: mike tesko on August 17, 2014, 08:02:AM
SOCO took blood samples from carpets in the main bedroom, on the upstairs landing carpet, and wall paper on the stairs, but no blood samples from the beds in the two bedrooms, or the kitchen floor and for some reason failed to identify in whose bloodthe bloodied fingermark on the edge of the kitchen worktop near to the telephone belonged to - in the same way they should have taken a glass sample from the kitchen floor if the lampshade in the kitchen was smashed before police forced thier way in. There were no particles or shards of glass found on any victims feet, clothing or in thier hair, no shards or partickes of glass on the gun or silencer, this tells everybody that the lampshape in the kitchen was caused after police entered the kitchen not beforehand, and that was the reason no glass sample was taken at the scene...
Title: Re: Absence of glass on soles of Ralph Bambers feet, and elsewhere...
Post by: nugnug on August 25, 2014, 11:54:PM
There is no evidence the a lamp shade in the main kitchen got broken during any death struggle involving Ralph and his killer. There was no shards of broken glass found upon the soles of Ralph Bambers feet. Similarly, there was no shards of broken glass found upon his pyjamas, or in his hair...

Additionally, and perhaps most significantly, there was no particles of glass found anywhere upon the surface of the sound moderstor, or anshuzt rifle barrel...

thats intresting i wonder how it got broken then could the police have knocked it over when they went in.