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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: grahameb on October 24, 2013, 09:08:AM
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I ask this question because every time something new happens the forum is visited by two well known family friends just before or immediately after some new thing appears regarding Jeremy Bamber.
The last time this happened it was the new evidence concerning the burn mark tests in Arizona. Before that it was the CCRC decision as to whether to grant JB an appeal.
This time it is the publishing of Andrew Hunter's new book about further new evidence. Or is Hartley's over friendliness with the opposition just a coincidence? Or has he really turned over a "new leaf" and become pleasant all of a sudden? Or is the sudden appearance of Vic on the forum after a long time by chance?
What do you think? Are the family priviledged to this information before anybody else?
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Sounds like paranoia to me. :-\
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Pardon me for verging on 'paranoia', but are the 'family' i.e. Rellies privileged to know the publisher/publication date of Andrew Hunter's much publicized book?
Additionally, has it been given an ISBN No., and how much will it be?
Presumably the copies given out for appraisal are 'Proof Copies', so we must be patient. If it doesn't actually emanate, then we of the 'Bamber Is Innocent' persuasion will indeed have reason to justifiably appear to be suffering from hallucinatory paranoia.
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Pardon me for verging on 'paranoia', but are the 'family' i.e. Rellies privileged to know the publisher/publication date of Andrew Hunter's much publicized book?
Additionally, has it been given an ISBN No., and how much will it be?
Presumably the copies given out for appraisal are 'Proof Copies', so we must be patient. If it doesn't actually emanate, then we of the 'Bamber Is Innocent' persuasion will indeed have reason to justifiably appear to be suffering from hallucinatory paranoia.
Hi campion. I don't know what you just said......But I agree with you. ;D
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Hello Grahame its actually a good point, for me I do not think the family have any prior information as to the public in DBs own words on the 30 min documentary it ends here { BTW is does not end here him nor anyone else will give such a order } , the recent return of certain members tell me bundles the slightest chance of a alternative version of events that night will and must be corrected you tell me ??
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how do we know there friends of the family they just told us they were.
anyone could come on and say they were friends of the family i mean we would have know way of proving they wernt.
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Hello Grahame its actually a good point, for me I do not think the family have any prior information as to the public in DBs own words on the 30 min documentary it ends here { BTW is does not end here him nor anyone else will give such a order } , the recent return of certain members tell me bundles the slightest chance of a alternative version of events that night will and must be corrected you tell me ??
Yes they should be. Personally the so called money business with the family doesn't concern me much. You find that after someone dies you do get falling out of various members of the family where the person's possessions are concerned. The lady next door to us died recently and certain members have fallen out with each other. One member of the family said that we could have the plants that are in pots in the front garden. But since then I heard that the other members did not agree to that. So I informed my wife that we should stay away and not bother the family. I don't want to get tangled up in arguments concerning a dead person's things.
I think perhaps hartley was right. There is a danger of becoming paranoid about these things and about others as well. But I still think that something is not quite right with this case?
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how do we know there friends of the family they just told us they were.
anyone could come on and say they were friends of the family i mean we would have know way of proving they wernt.
I've spoken with Vic on the telephone, so I know he knows the family and Hartley is connected with Vic in a way. But I won't say anything more on that point.
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Yes they should be. Personally the so called money business with the family doesn't concern me much. You find that after someone dies you do get falling out of various members of the family where the person's possessions are concerned. The lady next door to us died recently and certain members have fallen out with each other. One member of the family said that we could have the plants that are in pots in the front garden. But since then I heard that the other members did not agree to that. So I informed my wife that we should stay away and not bother the family. I don't want to get tangled up in arguments concerning a dead person's things.
I think perhaps hartley was right. There is a danger of becoming paranoid about these things and about others as well. But I still think that something is not quite right with this case?
Likewise Grahame something is not right in this case , if these members know the family or not it means nothing to me it never has im interested in the truth Britain is among the most secret of nations nothing is quite what it seems the day people come to that way of thought then things will be more clear.
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As I say paranoia seems to be the order of the day.
As I've been picked out in Grahames post, I'll offer a little more.
I was simply having a break from the forum, I forget now but I think I may even have PM'd NGB to that effect. Then I happened to take a peek at this forum as a guest just to see how things were going, there was some discussion taking place about a body being seen in a photograph, I happened to have a clearer image, so signed up and posted it, and I've stuck around ever since, although I have another break coming up.
So that's the reason why I came 'crawling out of the woodwork' so to speak. Nothing to do with Hunter, or on orders from the relatives, which is what I think is being alluded to.
There has been much said about me on the forum over the last few years, the majority of which has been propagated by myself. One myth, is that I am here on behalf of 'The Relatives', the truth of the matter is that that I've never spoken to a single one of them about the case, not a word, although I don't expect people to necessarily believe that.
As for me turning over a new leaf and suddenly becoming 'polite', I guess that's subjective, as far as I'm concerned, other than the odd blip I have no issues with the manner in which I've conducted myself, I haven't changed other than perhaps being a little more reserved these days, I don't feel that I need to fight every, or even any battle, whereas at one time that was perhaps not the case.
Whether the relatives get a heads up on things, no, not in this instance, or at least I very much doubt it.
One thing that I have to add, and it's been a constant source of amusement, is that a good while back I exchanged a few PM's with Grahame, I had a feeling that information that I had told him was getting repeated to Campion, which is fine, that was entirely up to him. So I feigned an outburst, Grahame made a comment about architecture on the forum, so I sent a raving angry message saying something along the lines of 'my profession is not for public consumption' (he may recall? I think NGB again had been copied in). The purpose was to see if the information would get passed on, although Grahame was completely innocent and understandably angry at my outburst, Campion did indeed start making posts alluding to my profession as an architect. What I didn't expect was for Campion to continually mention it as often as he possibly could for the next TWO YEARS!!!, as if he thought he was annoying me each time, I have clearly at some stage deeply offended him, if only I knew how. All I can say is I am quite happy for people to think I'm an architect, that sound pretty cool, although I would obviously not be a very good one considering the amount of time I have spent on here.
The very, last thing I would like to add, is that if anybody is looking to have a new house designed, then please contact me via PM. :P
(Just trying to break down some of the myths, one piece at a time)
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As I say paranoia seems to be the order of the day.
As I've been picked out in Grahames post, I'll offer a little more.
I was simply having a break from the forum, I forget now but I think I may even have PM'd NGB to that effect. Then I happened to take a peek at this forum as a guest just to see how things were going, there was some discussion taking place about a body being seen in a photograph, I happened to have a clearer image, so signed up and posted it, and I've stuck around ever since, although I have another break coming up.
So that's the reason why I came 'crawling out of the woodwork' so to speak. Nothing to do with Hunter, or on orders from the relatives, which is what I think is being alluded to.
There has been much said about me on the forum over the last few years, the majority of which has been propagated by myself. One myth, is that I am here on behalf of 'The Relatives', the truth of the matter is that that I've never spoken to a single one of them about the case, not a word, although I don't expect people to necessarily believe that.
As for me turning over a new leaf and suddenly becoming 'polite', I guess that's subjective, as far as I'm concerned, other than the odd blip I have no issues with the manner in which I've conducted myself, I haven't changed other than perhaps being a little more reserved these days, I don't feel that I need to fight every, or even any battle, whereas at one time that was perhaps not the case.
Whether the relatives get a heads up on things, no, not in this instance, or at least I very much doubt it.
One thing that I have to add, and it's been a constant source of amusement, is that a good while back I exchanged a few PM's with Grahame, I had a feeling that information that I had told him was getting repeated to Campion, which is fine, that was entirely up to him. So I feigned an outburst, Grahame made a comment about architecture on the forum, so I sent a raving angry message saying something along the lines of 'my profession is not for public consumption' (he may recall? I think NGB again had been copied in). The purpose was to see if the information would get passed on, although Grahame was completely innocent and understandably angry at my outburst, Campion did indeed start making posts alluding to my profession as an architect. What I didn't expect was for Campion to continually mention it as often as he possibly could for the next TWO YEARS!!!, as if he thought he was annoying me each time, I have clearly at some stage deeply offended him, if only I knew how. All I can say is I am quite happy for people to think I'm an architect, that sound pretty cool, although I would obviously not be a very good one considering the amount of time I have spent on here.
The very, last thing I would like to add, is that if anybody is looking to have a new house designed, then please contact me via PM. :P
(Just trying to break down some of the myths, one piece at a time)
Thank you hartley for your very honest post. I do believe that you are not an architect as campion said. As for myself I don't really think that it is very important who you actually are. But I have enjoyed your very articulate and intelligent posts. But I do know that Vic does know the relatives although he is not related to them. I trust his knowledge because I believe him to be an honest and upright man. Thank you for clearing up a few of the myths.
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Thank you hartley for your very honest post.
You are very welcome.
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You are very welcome.
Sorry. It posted before I was finished. I think I pressed the wrong button somehow?
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As I say paranoia seems to be the order of the day.
As I've been picked out in Grahames post, I'll offer a little more.
I was simply having a break from the forum, I forget now but I think I may even have PM'd NGB to that effect. Then I happened to take a peek at this forum as a guest just to see how things were going, there was some discussion taking place about a body being seen in a photograph, I happened to have a clearer image, so signed up and posted it, and I've stuck around ever since, although I have another break coming up.
So that's the reason why I came 'crawling out of the woodwork' so to speak. Nothing to do with
Hunter, or on orders from the relatives, which is what I think is being alluded to.
There has been much said about me on the forum over the last few years, the majority of which
has been propagated by myself. One myth, is that I am here on behalf of 'The Relatives', the
truth of the matter is that that I've never spoken to a single one of them about the case, not a
word, although I don't expect people to necessarily believe that.
As for me turning over a new leaf and suddenly becoming 'polite', I guess that's subjective, as
far as I'm concerned, other than the odd blip I have no issues with the manner in which I've
conducted myself, I haven't changed other than perhaps being a little more reserved these
days, I don't feel that I need to fight every, or even any battle, whereas at one time that was
perhaps not the case.
Whether the relatives get a heads up on things, no, not in this instance, or at least I very much doubt it.
One thing that I have to add, and it's been a constant source of amusement, is that a good
while back I exchanged a few PM's with Grahame, I had a feeling that information that I had
told him was getting repeated to Campion, which is fine, that was entirely up to him. So I
feigned an outburst, Grahame made a comment about architecture on the forum, so I sent a
raving angry message saying something along the lines of 'my profession is not for public
consumption' (he may recall? I think NGB again had been copied in). The purpose was to see if
the information would get passed on, although Grahame was completely innocent and
understandably angry at my outburst, Campion did indeed start making posts alluding to my
profession as an architect. What I didn't expect was for Campion to continually mention it as
often as he possibly could for the next TWO YEARS!!!, as if he thought he was annoying me
each time, I have clearly at some stage deeply offended him, if only I knew how. All I can say is I
am quite happy for people to think I'm an architect, that sound pretty cool, although I would
obviously not be a very good one considering the amount of time I have spent on here.
The very, last thing I would like to add, is that if anybody is looking to have a new house
designed, then please contact me via PM. :P
(Just trying to break down some of the myths, one piece at a time)
Cheers for that Hartley, it's always good to eliminate myths where ever they're found. ;)
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If a constant liar says that he's lying, do you believe him? :-\
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Cheers for that Hartley, it's always good to eliminate myths where ever they're found. ;)
They never get 'eliminated' they come back eventually - sadly!!
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They never get 'eliminated' they come back eventually - sadly!!
For example Mikes panic alarm. ::)
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The very, last thing I would like to add, is that if anybody is looking to have a new house designed, then please contact me via PM. :P
What are you like with sheds? ;D
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What are you like with sheds? ;D
I know shed loads about sheds. :)
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For example Mikes panic alarm. ::)
Yes, I fought long and hard to have that squished and back it comes to do the rounds again!! However, in my mind that's something well and truly put to bed. (Still irks me when I hear mention of it though!! ;D ;D ;D ;D)
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Thank you hartley for your very honest post. I do believe that you are not an architect as campion said. As for myself I don't really think that it is very important who you actually are. But I have enjoyed your very articulate and intelligent posts. But I do know that Vic does know the relatives although he is not related to them. I trust his knowledge because I believe him to be an honest and upright man. Thank you for clearing up a few of the myths.
I know of Vidvic but have never met him, everything I've heard about him is good though.
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Yes, I fought long and hard to have that squished and back it comes to do the rounds again!! However, in my mind that's something well and truly put to bed. (Still irks me when I hear mention of it though!! ;D ;D ;D ;D)
I think Mike has damaged himself so much that nobody really listens to him anymore. People used to cling on to every post he made, now he appears largely ignored. Cried wolf too many times I think. :-\
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I think Mike has damaged himself so much that nobody really listens to him anymore. People used to cling on to every post he made, now he appears largely ignored. Cried wolf too many times I think. :-\
We need some new statements, I want to see Basil's statement (the solicitor - not Mr Fawlty!!)- I'm surprised it's not on the forum already. I don't suppose you have come across it anywhere?
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We need some new statements, I want to see Basil's statement (the solicitor - not Mr Fawlty!!)- I'm surprised it's not on the forum already. I don't suppose you have come across it anywhere?
Unfortunately not. :(
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I ask this question because every time something new happens the forum is visited by two well known family friends just before or immediately after some new thing appears regarding Jeremy Bamber.
The last time this happened it was the new evidence concerning the burn mark tests in Arizona. Before that it was the CCRC decision as to whether to grant JB an appeal.
This time it is the publishing of Andrew Hunter's new book about further new evidence. Or is Hartley's over friendliness with the opposition just a coincidence? Or has he really turned over a "new leaf" and become pleasant all of a sudden? Or is the sudden appearance of Vic on the forum after a long time by chance?
What do you think? Are the family priviledged to this information before anybody else?
When it comes to things outside the legal system, like books, then no, there is no privileged information. When something legal is announced then the relatives know the result at the same time as bamber does, which is upto 24 hours before its made public, but under strict embargo.
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Morning No Bits
shame just had a new house designed by a local Architect if only I had known about you sooner. When I came on the forum originally I was told you were a busker and when you disappeared it was to earn some money outside the train station ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Morning No Bits
shame just had a new house designed by a local Architect if only I had known about you sooner. When I came on the forum originally I was told you were a busker and when you disappeared it was to earn some money outside the train station ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yes, I am a busker, I am regularly seen at stations playing air guitar. :-[
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No Bits bet you are no more a busker than I am a pole dancer ;D
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No Bits bet you are no more a busker than I am a pole dancer ;D
That is a vicious lie, I most certainly am not a busking pole dancer. >:( ;D
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Ha Ha No Bits ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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No Bits bet you are no more a busker than I am a pole dancer ;D
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked003.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) I'm shocked. I thought you were?
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Morning Grahame so sorry to disappoint you but I am pretty good on the tambourine and at times I am awesome ;D ;D ;D
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An interesting and partial insight into the founding and running of the Osea Caravan Site,,which was posted 3 hours ago on Bambertweets.
As is already mentioned by " tweeters ",,there is no mention of June Bamber who also ran the place for 20 years.
Was this a misprint,,or has the poor woman been forgotten altogether,,already?.
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http://www.eadt.co.uk/business/features/farming_feature_janie_s_childhood_idyll_at_osea_remains_a_magical_place_1_2885047
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http://www.eadt.co.uk/business/features/farming_feature_janie_s_childhood_idyll_at_osea_remains_a_magical_place_1_2885047
Thanks for that Caroline. I just find it sad that June didn't get a mention after having worked there for 20 years,,which is quite some time out of somebodys' life-time.
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As I say paranoia seems to be the order of the day.
As I've been picked out in Grahames post, I'll offer a little more.
I was simply having a break from the forum, I forget now but I think I may even have PM'd NGB to that effect. Then I happened to take a peek at this forum as a guest just to see how things were going, there was some discussion taking place about a body being seen in a photograph, I happened to have a clearer image, so signed up and posted it, and I've stuck around ever since, although I have another break coming up.
So that's the reason why I came 'crawling out of the woodwork' so to speak. Nothing to do with Hunter, or on orders from the relatives, which is what I think is being alluded to.
There has been much said about me on the forum over the last few years, the majority of which has been propagated by myself. One myth, is that I am here on behalf of 'The Relatives', the truth of the matter is that that I've never spoken to a single one of them about the case, not a word, although I don't expect people to necessarily believe that.
As for me turning over a new leaf and suddenly becoming 'polite', I guess that's subjective, as far as I'm concerned, other than the odd blip I have no issues with the manner in which I've conducted myself, I
haven't changed other than perhaps being a little more reserved these days, I don't feel that I need to fight every, or even any battle, whereas at one time that was perhaps not the case.
Whether the relatives get a heads up on things, no, not in this instance, or at least I very much doubt it.
One thing that I have to add, and it's been a constant source of amusement, is that a good while back I exchanged a few PM's with Grahame, I had a feeling that information that I had told him was getting repeated to Campion, which is fine, that was entirely up to him. So I feigned an outburst, Grahame made a comment about architecture on the forum, so I sent a raving angry message saying something along the lines of 'my profession is not for public consumption' (he may recall? I think NGB again had been copied in). The
purpose was to see if the information would get passed on, although Grahame was completely innocent and understandably angry at my outburst, Campion did indeed start making posts alluding to my profession as an architect. What I didn't expect was for Campion to continually mention it as often as he possibly could for the next TWO YEARS!!!, as if he thought he was annoying me each time, I have clearly at some stage deeply offended him, if only I knew how. All I can say is I am quite happy for people to think I'm an architect, that sound pretty cool, although I would obviously not be a very good one considering the amount of time I have spent on here.
The very, last thing I would like to add, is that if anybody is looking to have a new house designed, then please contact me via PM. :P
(Just trying to break down some of the myths, one piece at a time)
Welcome back Hartley! Vortex
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Any reason for the quote?
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Any reason for the quote?
Only that the quote was a very Hartley (now no-bits) way of explaining himself with the level of detail / explanation he is known for. He's on the other side of the case to me but he has on quite a number of occasions argued key points in a rational manner.
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Hello Vortex
think you have missed hartley/No bits gone again for a short while but he was very entertaining whilst he was here.
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Hello Vortex
think you have missed hartley/No bits gone again for a short while but he was very entertaining whilst he was here.
That's a shame, he does like to to come and go. I never undestood why he went to the trouble of leaving and coming back when he could of kept his user name / login and just not posted for a while.
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Hi Vortex he will come back and I am curious to see what his username will be maybe Marmalade ;D ;D ;D
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Hi Vortex he will come back and I am curious to see what his username will be maybe Marmalade ;D ;D ;D
Or Fruit Conserve ;D ;D ;D
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Or Fruit Conserve ;D ;D ;D
Bramble Jelly?? ;D
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Seedless. ;D
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Seedless. ;D
Little Pippin ;D
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Little Pippin ;D
Pectin ;D ;D
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Little Pippin ;D
Aww, ;D ;D
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Aww, ;D ;D
Sweet Tips
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That's a shame, he does like to to come and go. I never undestood why he went to the trouble of leaving and coming back when he could of kept his user name / login and just not posted for a while.
To confuse people and make a grand exit/entrance ;D ;D but I have pondered that too!!
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Hi Vortex he will come back and I am curious to see what his username will be maybe Marmalade ;D ;D ;D
Or even Robinson's? ;D
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Hi Caroline maybe NB shares himself out with other sites ;D he was quite humourous and charming at times ;D
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Grahame hope he does not come back as "Hand Made" ;D ;D ;D
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In reference to Hartley's explanation I feel I should remind members that Campion is in fact two people. Campion junior and campion senior. They are both a fountain of knowledge in their own rights. In fact campion junior has basically re-written the entire history of Essex in relation to England's kings. He has a fantastic memory for intricate detail. Campion senior is a dark knight. A detective to equal Hercule Poirot himself ;) ;D
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In reference to Hartley's explanation I feel I should remind members that Campion is in fact two people. Campion junior and campion senior. They are both a fountain of knowledge in their own rights. In fact campion junior has basically re-written the entire history of Essex in relation to England's kings. He has a fantastic memory for intricate detail. Campion senior is a dark knight. A detective to equal Hercule Poirot himself ;) ;D
Campion snr ( I think it is,anyway ) is a great character.
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Campion snr ( I think it is,anyway ) is a great character.
Campion senior is the only one posting at the moment. Actually that which hartley said about being an architect. It was campion himself who remarked upon it. He didn't get it from me or anyone else. He just looked at hartley's carefully draw plan of WHF and came to the conclusion that he was an architech.
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Grahame I was told when I came on the forum at the beginning that Hartley was a Busker ;D ;D ;D
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Lookout campion senior is a tremendous guy, clever, funny and free ;D ;D ;D
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Grahame think campion junior hates Reliant Robins ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Lookout campion senior is a tremendous guy, clever, funny and free ;D ;D ;D
Yes,,Susan,,he sounds great. A rarity today. ;D
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Grahame hope he does not come back as "Hand Made" ;D ;D ;D
PICK YOUR OWN FRUIT ;D ;D ;D
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Grahame think campion junior hates Reliant Robins ;D ;D ;D ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8&list=PL22A9095417F78030
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Hartley joins, then deletes his accounts because he doesn´t want a traceable history here? I cannot see any other reason.
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Alias he may work off shore 6/8 weeks on then the same off ;D He could even be on one of the rigs not too far from me as we speak ;D ;D ;D Will wave if I see him ;D
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Alias he may work off shore 6/8 weeks on then the same off ;D He could even be on one of the rigs not too far from me as we speak ;D ;D ;D Will wave if I see him ;D
Ask someone else. Tyler perhaps? ::)
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Grahame does tyler work on an oil rig too ;D ;D ;D
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Grahame does tyler work on an oil rig too ;D ;D ;D
I don't think so? ;D
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Hartley joins, then deletes his accounts because he doesn´t want a traceable history here? I cannot see any other reason.
I didn't want to say that!! ;D
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Alias he may work off shore 6/8 weeks on then the same off ;D He could even be on one of the rigs not too far from me as we speak ;D ;D ;D Will wave if I see him ;D
As someone who worked off-shore for quite some time, I can tell you they have brilliant internet access!! :)
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As someone who worked off-shore for quite some time, I can tell you they have brilliant internet access!! :)
I couldn't work offshore. Just think of me freezing in a rowing boat trying to get BBC iplayer. ::)
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Hi Caroline forgot that I must now find another reason for his departure and return I will come up with something ;D
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Hi Caroline forgot that I must now find another reason for his departure and return I will come up with something ;D
Maybe he needs to feed his chickens? ;D
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Grahame he don't have chickens ;D ;D ;D
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I didn't want to say that!! ;D
I did! ;D
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Caroline Hartley could be a Legionnnaire ;D ;D ;D
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Caroline Hartley could be a Legionnnaire ;D ;D ;D
OMG, I thought that was a disease ;D ;D ;D
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Ha Ha april you could be right ;D ;D ;D
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Caroline Hartley could be a Legionnnaire ;D ;D ;D
Oh, of course he is in the Foreign Legion! Steve is in the Sulphur mines when Hartley is here, and Harltley in the FL when Steve is here, they take turns.... wait, are they the SAME PERSON???
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Alias you maybe onto something as Hartley did say he use to post on another forum as steve uk. Come on now steve own up you are hartley/No Bits. Both have the same stance ;D
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Oh, of course he is in the Foreign Legion! Steve is in the Sulphur mines when Hartley is here, and Harltley in the FL when Steve is here, they take turns.... wait, are they the SAME PERSON???
Think you've cracked it Alias, the mystery is solved. ;D ;D
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"They" just pretend they dislike each other! I always had a feeling steve couldn´t be real... (sorry steve, you are just too perfect to be real!) ;)
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It can't be one and the same,surely.
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Alias steve is real he is hartley and if you recall april appeared to have a fatal attraction for No Bits/hartley and steve UK one of the same that is why she was drawn to both usernames ;D ;D ;D
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Alias steve is real he is hartley and if you recall april appeared to have a fatal attraction for No Bits/hartley and steve UK one of the same that is why she was drawn to both usernames ;D ;D ;D
Susie, there, right there is the proof! 8)
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Caroline Hartley could be a Legionnnaire ;D ;D ;D
People join the Legion to forget? Maybe that's why he often forgets what he said previously? (sorry Hartley ;D ;D)
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Caroline don't worry he wont hear you ;D ;D ;D
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Well I'll be bumswizzled. ;D ;D ;D
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Or even Robinson's? ;D
Do you mean Robertsons.....the jam with the golly on?
Robinsons make fruit squash,not jam? :)
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Do you mean Robertsons.....the jam with the golly on?
Robinsons make fruit squash,not jam? :)
That's ok then Tyler, jam is only squashed fruit, after all ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Do you mean Robertsons.....the jam with the golly on?
Robinsons make fruit squash,not jam? :)
Yes that too. :)
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Funny i thought, how Hartley's gone out with a whirlwind, and a Red Devil (or was it a Robinson's red golliwog).
Funny how Vortex rushed in almost simultaneously.
Tyler, how observant of you, (or was it your Alias) in noticing that No Bits was on post#666, when the StJude hurricane happened to blow in!
Sheer coincidence, I would have thought.
I reckon 'H' has gone into his retreat at Devil's Wood near Salcott cum Varley cross roads. It's only a broomstick throw from Yeltrah's beloved Jam factory at Tiptree.
BTW Grahame, I do have a Trotter van, which happens to be parked on its roof. It has a Ford 850cc engine.
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Camps, it was me. Funny how people seem to mix up tyler and me - happans all the time! :) I don´t mind though, she is brilliant!
I think the No-Bits account is a different onet from no-bits, not sure though??
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Aww thanks Alias! I don't mind being mixed up with you either,being a Cher lookalike,intelligent and with a lovely personality x
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Aww thanks Alias! I don't mind being mixed up with you either,being a Cher lookalike,intelligent and with a lovely personality x
I agree tyler love Alias' avatar. :)
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Hello Maggie
must go and look Alias will be lovely outside as she is so lovely inside :-*
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Do you know what.? After all these months,,I've always thought of Alias's avatar as a " Jacobean/Dutch " Masterpiece. Now that you've brought the avatar to my attention,,I've just got my magnifyer to get a proper look,,and hey-presto,it was a lovely lady of modern times.
There are times when I see what I want to see,,and I love art,and the arts,so have a penchant for Dutch masterpieces. Trouble is,,I've been so engrossed in the forum not to have noticed avatars.
So there you are,Alias,,,you're a Dutch Masterpiece.
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Thanks, YOU LOVELY LADIES! Big hugs all around! That picture does look like a painting, it is the light from the lighttable I am sitting at, I think.
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Aww thanks Alias! I don't mind being mixed up with you either,being a Cher lookalike,intelligent and with a lovely personality x
Hi tyler, must say Alias looks more like 'original' Cher rather than the freakin 67 year old recently spotted on tv with skin so tight her attempt at a smile caused me to fear it would tear. ;D
I see your assumption it was a dutch master lookout, the mood deffiniely gives that impression. :)
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Do you know what.? After all these months,,I've always thought of Alias's avatar as a " Jacobean/Dutch " Masterpiece. Now that you've brought the avatar to my attention,,I've just got my magnifyer to get a proper look,,and hey-presto,it was a lovely lady of modern times.
There are times when I see what I want to see,,and I love art,and the arts,so have a penchant for Dutch masterpieces. Trouble is,,I've been so engrossed in the forum not to have noticed avatars.
So there you are,Alias,,,you're a Dutch Masterpiece.
Lookout, Good Morning :) It's really strange that you should say that because I too, never look at the avatar, which as a word, of itself is a whole new add on to my vocabulary. I have noticed Caronline's and Maggies's, presumably because as blonds, they stand out. I know that Susan has a thistle, but only because I miss her lovely roses. Other than that, like you, I have to get out a magnifying glass :D :D :D
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Hi Ladies
I am going back to the Yorkshire Rose as Patti seems to think the thistle is a rose anyway. I will speak to Roch when he is on as he takes care of my needs ;D ;D ;D
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Camps, it was me. Funny how people seem to mix up tyler and me - happans all the time! :) I don´t mind though, she is brilliant!
I think the No-Bits account is a different onet from no-bits, not sure though??
Alias, I too, get you and Tyler muddled and I have NO idea why. May I justuse this chance to say I hope you didn't suffer too much destruction during the storm. I understand that Denmark was hit pretty badly.
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Lookout, Good Morning :) It's really strange that you should say that because I too, never look at the avatar, which as a word, of itself is a whole new add on to my vocabulary. I have noticed Caronline's and Maggies's, presumably because as blonds, they stand out. I know that Susan has a thistle, but only because I miss her lovely roses. Other than that, like you, I have to get out a magnifying glass :D :D :D
Good morning April...I'm so glad that I'm not alone with this " phenomenon " ;D
I suppose a good pair of reading glasses would solve my problem ;D ;D ;D as my eyes haven't been tested for years and I still use the same reading glasses that I had in 2003.! Lucky,,I know,,but I don't see any deterioration in my eyesight,,even after years of " unknown " high blood-pressure.
However,,the magnifyer is a godsend at times,,especially reading some of the old letters/statements on here. ( back to Dickens's day )
As you say,,the blondies stand out,as does the thistle,,which doesn't mean to say it's of any detriment to Alias,,who,,now that I've studied, is another lovely lady.
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Thanks, YOU LOVELY LADIES! Big hugs all around! That picture does look like a painting, it is the light from the lighttable I am sitting at, I think.
Are you a designer or something? I used light tables when I was designing signs.
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Tyler, how observant of you, (or was it your Alias) in noticing that No Bits was on post#666, when the StJude hurricane happened to blow in!
Sheer coincidence, I would have thought.
I reckon 'H' has gone into his retreat at Devil's Wood near Salcott cum Varley cross roads. It's only a broomstick throw from Yeltrah's beloved Jam factory at Tiptree.
The said retreat being "H's" natural abode!!!!!!!!!!!! Many years ago, when the great house to be known as Barn Hall was commissioned, the builders would return each morning to find destroyed their previous days work. Their forman decided to keep watch and at midnight the Devil..........or was it "H"?........appeared. The forman approached the, to use a Stevism, Personage, and enquired of him, very politely, what the H he thought he was doing. Said personage lifted the vast beam which was to be the main load bearer and threw it as if it wasn a toy, then were uttered those famous words which to this day cause locals to shudder "Where this beam shall fall, THERE build Barn Hall" The Hall was built where the beam, for ever bearing the claw marks of the Devils talons, came to rest. I am told the Hall no longer exists and as Campion says, it's all coincidence.................................isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The said retreat being "H's" natural abode!!!!!!!!!!!! Many years ago, when the great house to be known as Barn Hall was commissioned, the builders would return each morning to find destroyed their previous days work. Their forman decided to keep watch and at midnight the Devil..........or was it "H"?........appeared. The forman approached the, to use a Stevism, Personage, and enquired of him, very politely, what the H he thought he was doing. Said personage lifted the vast beam which was to be the main load bearer and threw it as if it wasn a toy, then were uttered those famous words which to this day cause locals to shudder "Where this beam shall fall, THERE build Barn Hall" The Hall was built where the beam, for ever bearing the claw marks of the Devils talons, came to rest. I am told the Hall no longer exists and as Campion says, it's all coincidence.................................isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!
The falling beam reminds me of the three legs on the Manx flag :
Quocunque Jesseris Stabit. Whichever way you throw me I stand. ;D
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The said retreat being "H's" natural abode!!!!!!!!!!!! Many years ago, when the great house to be known as Barn Hall was commissioned, the builders would return each morning to find destroyed their previous days work. Their forman decided to keep watch and at midnight the Devil..........or was it "H"?........appeared. The forman approached the, to use a Stevism, Personage, and enquired of him, very politely, what the H he thought he was doing. Said personage lifted the vast beam which was to be the main load bearer and threw it as if it wasn a toy, then were uttered those famous words which to this day cause locals to shudder "Where this beam shall fall, THERE build Barn Hall" The Hall was built where the beam, for ever bearing the claw marks of the Devils talons, came to rest. I am told the Hall no longer exists and as Campion says, it's all coincidence.................................isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you talking about the Barn Hall Industrial Estate?
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Are you talking about the Barn Hall Industrial Estate?
No Grahame. Or at least I don't think so. If you come from Tiptree to the cross road at Salcott, which is I think, the one Campion mentions, and turn left towards Mersea, if you look across the fields to the left the land rises, I imagine it's around that area. I'm not aware that I know of BHIE but may do without realizing.
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New video called The Money Trail,,on Bambertweets. It will open your eyes.!!!! Poor,,poor Jeremy. 29/10
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Alias, I too, get you and Tyler muddled and I have NO idea why. May I justuse this chance to say I hope you didn't suffer too much destruction during the storm. I understand that Denmark was hit pretty badly.
I agree Aprl, I saw that on the news and thought of Alias :) :)
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New video called The Money Trail,,on Bambertweets. It will open your eyes.!!!! Poor,,poor Jeremy. 29/10
Can't find it lookout????
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The said retreat being "H's" natural abode!!!!!!!!!!!! Many years ago, when the great house to be known as Barn Hall was commissioned, the builders would return each morning to find destroyed their previous days work. Their forman decided to keep watch and at midnight the Devil..........or was it "H"?........appeared. The forman approached the, to use a Stevism, Personage, and enquired of him, very politely, what the H he thought he was doing. Said personage lifted the vast beam which was to be the main load bearer and threw it as if it wasn a toy, then were uttered those famous words which to this day cause locals to shudder "Where this beam shall fall, THERE build Barn Hall" The Hall was built where the beam, for ever bearing the claw marks of the Devils talons, came to rest. I am told the Hall no longer exists and as Campion says, it's all coincidence.................................isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great post April, love it ;D ;D Was there a H burned into the beam, next to the claw marks??? :o :o ;) ;)
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Can't find it lookout????
Hi Maggie,,if you highlight Poppy Ann Miller,,it will give you the youtube video to further highlight. It's just over 17 minutes long.
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New video called The Money Trail,,on Bambertweets. It will open your eyes.!!!! Poor,,poor Jeremy. 29/10
Hi lookout, this is the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YppVCocVbI&feature=youtu.be
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Hi lookout, this is the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YppVCocVbI&feature=youtu.be
Yes,Maggie,,looks like one or two have viewed it since.! Probably the rellies.! I hope they feel sick.
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Ask someone else. Tyler perhaps? ::)
What does this mean? How would I know what Hartley does for a living? And why would I even be interested?
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Yes,Maggie,,looks like one or two have viewed it since.! Probably the rellies.! I hope they feel sick.
Lookout/Maggie, that video just puts flesh onto the bones of what many of us here have already said. I live in hope that it will reach a greater audience.
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Lookout/Maggie, that video just puts flesh onto the bones of what many of us here have already said. I live in hope that it will reach a greater audience.
It does indeed,April,,as Jeremy wasn't even aware what was going on behind his back half the time.
I'm almost certain that the video will get a good airing.
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Hi lookout, this is the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YppVCocVbI&feature=youtu.be
This deserves it's own thread!!
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This deserves it's own thread!!
Agreed Caroline. :)
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Agreed Caroline. :)
It's got one!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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It's got one!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
It has. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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What does this mean? How would I know what Hartley does for a living? And why would I even be interested?
I dunno Tyler. I just thought of you coz you are smarter than me. :D
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Hi lookout, this is the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YppVCocVbI&feature=youtu.be
It appears quite evident that the relatives knew considerably more about who the various monies were going to than did Jeremy, who it was claimed killed his family for their money? The case against him is getting weaker and weaker if the information in this video is true?
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The contents of the video ARE true and have been known about for a while and discussed on this forum.
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The contents of the video ARE true and have been known about for a while and discussed on this forum.
I know they have been discussed. But they have also been vehemently denied by both Hartley and Vic.
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I know they have been discussed. But they have also been vehemently denied by both Hartley and Vic.
That being the case,,then why aren't the rellies suing for lashings of spondulix.? Being it's their God ?
It's because it's true.!
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Vic and Hartley did not know the family back in 85/86. Vic argued about the alleged theft from N and J Bamber. He rightly argued that the allegations made by Barbara Wilson were never substantiated,but,as was pointed out in the video,N and J Bamber was a thriving business that went bankrupt under his management.
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Vic and Hartley did not know the family back in 85/86. Vic argued about the alleged theft from N and J Bamber. He rightly argued that the allegations made by Barbara Wilson were never substantiated,but,as was pointed out in the video,N and J Bamber was a thriving business that went bankrupt under his management.
Tyler, can you shout that as loudly as possible in Steve's ear. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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april steve is not listening ;D ;D ;D
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april steve is not listening ;D ;D ;D
He rarely does, Susan :D :D :D
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Are you a designer or something? I used light tables when I was designing signs.
I used to design signs, so we are basically colleagues! I don´t do that anymore, actually I only did it for a short time (a year or so). Not going to go into specifics about what I do for a living now - but it is in the creative field. :)
Thanks for asking about the storm, ladies. It was really bad! One 21 year old guy died when some bricks from a wall fell on him. Weren´t there two casualties in England. Awful!
Nothing happened to me or mine, but a guy I work with got a flying piece of glass in his face, so he has a cut RIGHT under his eye! Phew.
Off topic, sorry.
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Alias storm was terrible but Scotland missed it. Glad you and yours survived it OK.
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Alias storm was terrible but Scotland missed it. Glad you and yours survived it OK.
Had to walk home from work - no means of transportation, no trains, no buses, no available taxis. That is all, but it was scary, city was like a mini-war zone, sirens everywhere. Usavory charachters lurking around, things flying through the air... Had to get home though, and I was lucky because it is only about half an hour´s walk. Other people were stranded, don´t know what they did except one I know who found Facebook friends to bunk at!
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Alias did not realise things were so bad you must have been scared to death and felt so alone bet you were delighted to see your front door and get inside your safe haven,
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Had to walk home from work - no means of transportation, no trains, no buses, no available taxis. That is all, but it was scary, city was like a mini-war zone, sirens everywhere. Usavory charachters lurking around, things flying through the air... Had to get home though, and I was lucky because it is only about half an hour´s walk. Other people were stranded, don´t know what they did except one I know who found Facebook friends to bunk at!
That sounded awful,Alias. I knew it was bad there because I'd read that the storm was gathering speed and force across the Channel. You were lucky to get home unscathed,,and so glad you did as well,,because nowhere is nice now at night-time,,or worse,,in the dark.
Unfortunately,,I did read that it was returning,and this time to hit us in the North,,so we'll wait and see. I don't like the winds at all as it's the damage they can do. We had 4 deaths here,,including a young boy who was swept out to sea and so far he hasn't been found.
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That sounded awful,Alias. I knew it was bad there because I'd read that the storm was gathering speed and force across the Channel. You were lucky to get home unscathed,,and so glad you did as well,,because nowhere is nice now at night-time,,or worse,,in the dark.
Unfortunately,,I did read that it was returning,and this time to hit us in the North,,so we'll wait and see. I don't like the winds at all as it's the damage they can do. We had 4 deaths here,,including a young boy who was swept out to sea and so far he hasn't been found.
That is dreadful! Poor boy, I can´t imagine how he felt. :'(