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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on May 01, 2013, 09:44:PM
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The hypocrit - he complains I post photo's, yet asks for one of Sheila, on bed...
What a topsy turvey world we live in, we have Vidvic the gospel preacher complaining about how disrepectful and indecent it is for me to keep posting images of Sheila (whilst she was still alive, and dead) to draw attention to the abuse given to her body by police at the scene before, during, and after she died, and he is then taunting me, requesting that I post the pornographic photograph which police took of Sheila on the bed wearing no panties, and he makes the ridiculous suggestion, that I masterbate over such images in my possession, now forgive me, but is he saying he knows I have a copy of this photohgraph in my possession, and if so, how does he explain Sheila's body being on the bedroom floor?
So, who is the wanker, me, or him...
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How does he know I have a copy of Sheila's body on the bed, before police restaged it on the bedroom floor, but more disturbingly, how does he know that I meditate over such an image, if it doesn't exist - what a plonker he is, for sure...
A plonker with a perverted mind...
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C'mon, Tesko, post the photograph of Sheila on the bed, you meditate over...
Happy, versatile bar steward, is that Vidvic teacher...
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Either, photo' of Sheila on bed wearing no panties, exists, taken before police restaged her body on the floor, or it don't - so, why is preacher Vidvic, so keen to portray me as a wanker? How can he possibly say what he says if he believes no such photograph exists?
If I'm a banker, what does that make him?
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I wonder if you ever regret telling the massive lie, of the Sheila on the bed photo? Not because of the forum, because you clearly don't give a monkeys what you post here, but to bamber himself. It alienated you from everyone, including the man you worship.
You can fool some of the people, some of the time....
In your strange little world of bamber & Batman I think you believe yourself as important, maybe at one time you were, but not anymore. Bamber, the campaign, the defence team, the forum, slowly slowly drifting away, while you sit rocking in your chair, posting filth and lies.
Not satisfied with alienating bamber you now claim that poor maddie talks to you from the sky! How comforting for her parents to know that maddie picked out Mike Teskowski to speak to from the heavens! Of all the people she picked YOU.
There is something deeply worrying about some of your posts. Forever repeating the same pictures, a completely unnatural obsession with sexual aspects of the case, claiming Nevill fathered the twins, David Boutflour, police abuse of Sheila and nothing based on anything other than your twisted imagination.
At least we now know that you had a financial motive to help Bamber. Promised you the world did he? Bless.
You're a fibber Tesko. You know it, I know it.
Prove me wrong.
'Z' was a fib. Photo on the bed was a fib. Itemised billing. Abuse of Sheila. Nevill father of the twins. Mobile alarm. Loan of cash needing to be repaid. Sheila barking like a dog. Transcript of prison interview. All complete spheroids.
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I wonder if you ever regret telling the massive lie, of the Sheila on the bed photo? Not because of the forum, because you clearly don't give a monkeys what you post here, but to bamber himself. It alienated you from everyone, including the man you worship.
You can fool some of the people, some of the time....
In your strange little world of bamber & Batman I think you believe yourself as important, maybe at one time you were, but not anymore. Bamber, the campaign, the defence team, the forum, slowly slowly drifting away, while you sit rocking in your chair, posting filth and lies.
Not satisfied with alienating bamber you now claim that poor maddie talks to you from the sky! How comforting for her parents to know that maddie picked out Mike Teskowski to speak to from the heavens! Of all the people she picked YOU.
There is something deeply worrying about some of your posts. Forever repeating the same pictures, a completely unnatural obsession with sexual aspects of the case, claiming Nevill fathered the twins, David Boutflour, police abuse of Sheila and nothing based on anything other than your twisted imagination.
At least we now know that you had a financial motive to help Bamber. Promised you the world did he? Bless.
You're a bloody liar Tesko. You know it, I know it.
Prove me wrong.
'Z' was a lie. Photo on the bed was a lie. Itemised billing. Abuse of Sheila. Nevill father of the twins. Mobile alarm. Loan of cash needing to be repaid. Sheila barking like a dog. Transcript of prison interview. All complete and utter bollocks.
Well said Vic, great post. You made me break my rule ;)
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I wonder if you ever regret telling the massive lie, of the Sheila on the bed photo? Not because of the forum, because you clearly don't give a monkeys what you post here, but to bamber himself. It alienated you from everyone, including the man you worship.
You can fool some of the people, some of the time....
In your strange little world of bamber & Batman I think you believe yourself as important, maybe at one time you were, but not anymore. Bamber, the campaign, the defence team, the forum, slowly slowly drifting away, while you sit rocking in your chair, posting filth and lies.
Not satisfied with alienating bamber you now claim that poor maddie talks to you from the sky! How comforting for her parents to know that maddie picked out Mike Teskowski to speak to from the heavens! Of all the people she picked YOU.
There is something deeply worrying about some of your posts. Forever repeating the same pictures, a completely unnatural obsession with sexual aspects of the case, claiming Nevill fathered the twins, David Boutflour, police abuse of Sheila and nothing based on anything other than your twisted imagination.
At least we now know that you had a financial motive to help Bamber. Promised you the world did he? Bless.
You're a bloody liar Tesko. You know it, I know it.
Prove me wrong.
'Z' was a lie. Photo on the bed was a lie. Itemised billing. Abuse of Sheila. Nevill father of the twins. Mobile alarm. Loan of cash needing to be repaid. Sheila barking like a dog. Transcript of prison interview. All complete and utter bollocks.
And yet, you keep reading about it all, and making repeat comments, so basically you must be full of bollocks, as well - you wouldn't know the truth if it stared you in the face. Way I see it, you support the corrupt action of the police which was exercised in these investigations, all you are interested in is safeguarding the reputation of the relatives from any suggestion of wrong doing, your not interested in the truth - here take a look at the two bloodstains on Sheila's nightdress photographed by PC Bird(SOC), after 10 O'clock, any idea what the negative numbers are for the two photographs in question? You see bird brain, it would be very easy to prove that additional, wet, fresh blood, was running, and dripping, and leaking, and splashing, from the fresh wounds on Sheila's throat, and her mouth, after 10 O'clock, by reference to the numbered negatives which contain the images of the altered and changing bloodstain, photographed on Sheila's body, on the bedroom floor by Birdie boy...
Now, exactly how do you think all this additional blood got onto that part of the nightdress, in such a very short period of time, that it took to take the two photographs in question (period od delay gauged by the time it took to take one photograph, then the other)?
How the hell can expiated blood drip or splash onto the nightdress as evidenced by reference to both images, if Jeremy Bamber the mass murderer killed Sheila before 3am - are you people for real, you have got to be an idiot who supports police corruption, you would have been one of those people who thought police did nothing wrong at Hillsborough and afterward, your kind of person makes me feel absolutely sick to the stomach, ye who are holier than thou, a pathetic example of biased opinion, designhed to support corruption of police, in the so called Bamber case...
Good luck, but take my word for it, the police who restaged Sheila's body on the bedroom floor, after moving her body from the bed, will be made to pay the price for doing what they have done, and did - judgement day is looming for Essex police and others in office elsewhere who have been living a lie just to keep an innocent man locked up in jail for 28 years or so...
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Well, for a start, the two areas you've highlighted are not quite the same and the area highlighted in one picture is under the bible in the other.
It is noted that you avoided discussing anything in my previous post.
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Well, for a start, the two areas you've highlighted are not quite the same and the area highlighted in one picture is under the bible in the other.
It is noted that you avoided discussing anything in my previous post.
No, its not...
It's the same area, and nothing at all to do with the bible...
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No, its not...
It's the same area, and nothing at all to do with the bible...
Ok, under a 'cutout' of some kind.
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Circle that is drawn on left pic is further towards 10 o'clock position than in pic on right.
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From the two pics here I can see the same shapes in the stain repeated but rotated, but same shapes.
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So this is 'the' moment he gets off is it? How many of them have there been now? 30, 40?
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Not only are you thin, but blond and ignoble as well...
Fancy asking for me to post a photograph of Sheila on the bed without any knickers on, when he keeps saying that no such photograph exists, and he adds that I meditate over such a photograph, when in reality the only true banker is himself...
What an strangely principled mind this handbag must have...
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Police destroyed the bloodstained blankets and sheets along with the mattress from the bed that Sheila's body was resting on, atop the bed...
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Dodgy Anna, well she got rid of and disposed of Sheila's heavily bloodstained knickers which the police should have kept as an exhibit - since, how does anyone know, or how can anyone be sure that blood found in the silencer was not menstrual blood?
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Audio tapes of the phone calls were destroyed after 28 days.!
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Dodgy Anna, well she got rid of and disposed of Sheila's heavily bloodstained knickers which the police should have kept as an exhibit - since, how does anyone know, or how can anyone be sure that blood found in the silencer was not menstrual blood?
I would be interested to know if it is usual for a sample such as the one found in the silencer to not produce a PGM reading? Miss Bridget has stated that the reason for this is that an enzyme broke down too quickly but I would like to explore this a little further?
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I think we might have strayed into a playground by mistake.....
Grow up and prove me wrong....
It's simple really.
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Here is the perverted mind talking about playgrounds now, just shows you what must be going through his tiny warped mind...
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Prove me wrong....
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I think we might have strayed into a playground by mistake.....
Grow up and prove me wrong....
It's simple really.
Vidic I assume the above is not aimed at my post #17 :-\
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Prove me wrong....
Refer to the original extracts of the 1988 Barratt, and the 1993 COLP Reports where it is confirmed police restaged Sheila's body, now what do you think it means when these Reports confirm that police had to restage her body? Why did they have to restage her body, why couldn't they have just left her body and the gun exactly where it was found, why did they have to move and restage evrrything? And what about all the lies police officers have told in witness statements saying they never moved or touched anything...
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Vidic I assume the above is not aimed at my post #17 :-\
God no! Sorry!
Was aimed at TorretsTesko...
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God no! Sorry!
Was aimed at TorretsTesko...
I'd rather suffer from that, than have a perverted mind like you...
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I would be interested to know if it is usual for a sample such as the one found in the silencer to not produce a PGM reading? Miss Bridget has stated that the reason for this is that an enzyme broke down too quickly but I would like to explore this a little further?
I think I suggested that it might be the reason, rather than stated that it was. All we know for sure is that it tested negative for PGM.
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I'd rather suffer from that, than have a perverted mind like you...
So, no proof then? Just insults?
Photo? Phone bills? Nothing??
All bollocks then?
Police driver taking you to Scotland? Any proof?
What about special ops with Police? No?
What did you do with the end cap you got from Glasgow after driving to Inverness? Any sign?
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So, no proof then? Just insults?
Photo? Phone bills? Nothing??
All bollocks then?
Police driver taking you to Scotland? Any proof?
What about special ops with Police? No?
What did you do with the end cap you got from Glasgow after driving to Inverness? Any sign?
How about all the allegations of the Eatons needing to pay money back to Bamber when you knew full well that there was none? What about making those allegations when you also knew full well Bamber was lying too?
What evidence do you have from anyone that Sheila was barking like a dog?
What evidence do you have that Police abused Sheila?
Come on, lets see what a fraud you are.
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What evidence is there that 'Z' exists outside of your head?
Do you have any perception of how ridiculous those posts were? Taking batteries out of phones but telling us where you were going? Lovely tree shots though!
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Truth is you've been cut off from the defence for years!
Bamber wants nothing to do with you because HE thinks you're bonkers! Oh the irony....
Why did 'Z' even want to contact you in the first place?? Surely he'd have been better contacting NGB!
So grow up, and prove me wrong....
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What a truly pathetic individual you are - you must be worried and concerned by something I have mentioned - well chummy you had your chance to discuss things properly, but I am afraid I have run out of patience with you. I will never enter into anymore dialog with you about anything to do with this case, and the first sign of anymore of your abusive comments I reserve the right to impose an immediate life time ban - you truly are a disgraceful character who I choose to have nothing more to do with...
Why don't you do yourself a favour and leave the forum, before you are pushed...
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That will look good for you then? Can't prove me wrong so you ban me?
Its the forum version of taking your ball home with you!
I'm pretty comfortable with my character actually.
It's up to you whether you push me or not but I wont be intimidated by you.
If you tell lies expect to be challenged.
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God no! Sorry!
Was aimed at TorretsTesko...
Phew :)
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I think I suggested that it might be the reason, rather than stated that it was. All we know for sure is that it tested negative for PGM.
Hello Miss Bridget
There's often a very fine line between your suggestions and assertions ;)
Are you trembling with anticipation over NGB's clarification of JM's wit stats? Ms B -v- NN 8) Hohoho
Re the negative PGM reading I would like to know how common it is for such a sample to return negative? Along with other things like no tissue present. Surely data must be kept about these sorts of things?
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Hello Miss Bridget
There's often a very fine line between your suggestions and assertions ;)
Are you trembling with anticipation over NGB's clarification of JM's wit stats? Ms B -v- NN 8) Hohoho
Re the negative PGM reading I would like to know how common it is for such a sample to return negative? Along with other things like no tissue present. Surely data must be kept about these sorts of things?
I have a feeling NGB is avoiding refereeing that particular battle ;)
I have no idea about the PGM, I think I was posting from memory of something I'd read, and I now have no idea what that was.
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I for one would be very sorry to see Vidvic banned. I welcome views from both sides - but that´s just me.... ???
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I for one would be very sorry to see Vidvic banned. I welcome views from both sides - but that´s just me.... ???
Me too, imo it would be pointless having a forum without different opinions etc :)
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I have a feeling NGB is avoiding refereeing that particular battle ;)I have no idea about the PGM, I think I was posting from memory of something I'd read, and I now have no idea what that was.
I have finally posted! Sorry for the delay. Let the battle continue! ;D ;D
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I for one would be very sorry to see Vidvic banned. I welcome views from both sides - but that´s just me.... ???
Don't worry. Vic won't be banned.
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Alias the forum would not be the same without Vic he is part of the fittings and Mike would have nobody to argue with ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Alias the forum would not be the same without Vic he is part of the fittings and Mike would have nobody to argue with ;D ;D ;D ;D
Mike would get bored very soon.
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I have finally posted! Sorry for the delay. Let the battle continue! ;D ;D
So I see! Thanks again :)
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Ive not been able to post much recently as when i log on the forum freezes a bit better tonight so i guess its heave forum activity, im not here to defend mike because he does not need me to do so , but i will say this vic does not speak or represent the relatives, what i think of them i will keep to myself, the fact that they occupy WHF tells me bundles yet so many members to me are too blind to see it , its starting to have structure all this.
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Ive not been able to post much recently as when i log on the forum freezes a bit better tonight so i guess its heave forum activity, im not here to defend mike because he does not need me to do so , but i will say this vic does not speak or represent the relatives, what i think of them i will keep to myself, the fact that they occupy WHF tells me bundles yet so many members to me are too blind to see it , its starting to have structure all this.
Mertol22 it's a leased building and they have a business to run for goodness sake.
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Mertol22 it's a leased building and they have a business to run for goodness sake.
its not about jeremy bamber steve, its not even about the rest of the killed family its about the house, brady house , demolished, the a wipes from derby who set fire to the house all those kids gone the house and the one next door getting demolished, no rational sane person could move into whf the place should have been flattened , to hell with listed status.
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its not about jeremy bamber steve, its not even about the rest of the killed family its about the house, brady house , demolished, the a wipes from derby who set fire to the house all those kids gone the house and the one next door getting demolished, no rational sane person could move into whf the place should have been flattened , to hell with listed status.
No it's a tribute to the relatives that the Eatons refused to be vanquished by the Jeremy Bambers of this world and children's games once more saw the light of day inside the building and without.
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No it's a tribute to the relatives that the Eatons refused to be vanquished by the Jeremy Bambers of this world and children's games once more saw the light of day inside the building and without.
The house has a history steve a history with no end i doubt the house has ceased yet.
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Ive not been able to post much recently as when i log on the forum freezes a bit better tonight so i guess its heave forum activity, im not here to defend mike because he does not need me to do so , but i will say this vic does not speak or represent the relatives, what i think of them i will keep to myself, the fact that they occupy WHF tells me bundles yet so many members to me are too blind to see it , its starting to have structure all this.
Could you possibly explain how you know this about me?
You said that you wouldn't say what you thought of the relatives and then you did?
Have I ever judged you? Why do you think it's ok to judge me?
Houses are only destroyed to prevent ghoulish tourism, to protect the neighbours from intrusion. It's not applicable in this case. Would you believe it, but some people even like to visit graveyards and visit dead celebrities graves! Amazing eh?
If the Eatons wanted to live in the house SOME YEARS after the murders then that's up to them!
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In all fairness to Mertol,most people balk at the idea that the Eatons chose to occupy whf. Especially since it was to the detriment of their children,who suffered nightmares when they were small. It isn't even as if white house is a Speakman farm.
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In all fairness to Mertol,most people balk at the idea that the Eatons chose to occupy whf. Especially since it was to the detriment of their children,who suffered nightmares when they were small. It isn't even as if white house is a Speakman farm.
I agree Tyler, but surely that was up to them? Bamber fought hard enough for the lease as well.
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I agree Tyler, but surely that was up to them? Bamber fought hard enough for the lease as well.
Always bugged me that. Eatons apply for lease...how could they?....Bamber applies for lease....not a sound...
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Always bugged me that. Eatons apply for lease...how could they?....Bamber applies for lease....not a sound...
only time has moved on, the dead family still occupy the same space where they lay nothing will change that, ive visited actors graves in respect, whf has no purpose to there at all how anyone can be there i find beyond belief.Are you telling me every Aug 7th they dont think back or is it just another night,
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only time has moved on, the dead family still occupy the same space where they lay nothing will change that, ive visited actors graves in respect, whf has no purpose to there at all how anyone can be there i find beyond belief.Are you telling me every Aug 7th they dont think back or is it just another night,
The point I'm making is that you judge the Eatons for wanting to move in, but Bamber wanted to do the same. I simply don't understand the difference.
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The point I'm making is that you judge the Eatons for wanting to move in, but Bamber wanted to do the same. I simply don't understand the difference.
The difference as far as I see it is that it was Jeremy's family home, he had (I imagine) many happy memories there. His personal relationship to WHF would be different to that of the Eaton's (IMO).
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The difference as far as I see it is that it was Jeremy's family home, he had (I imagine) many happy memories there. His personal relationship to WHF would be different to that of the Eaton's (IMO).
In one way I agree but you could argue that he was closer to the deceased and would find it harder to live there as a result? It kind of works both ways?
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In one way I agree but you could argue that he was closer to the deceased and would find it harder to live there as a result? It kind of works both ways?
I honestly can't say what I would do in the same situation - I might want to stay to feel close to them but I wouldn't be able to get the tragic event out of my mind. The only thing I can say is, JB didn't get the opportunity to live there, maybe it would have proven too difficult for him in the long run - I guess we'll never know.
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Bamber only had himself to think about though,didn't he? He wasn't a parent. Perhaps he thought he could work the farm whilst he remained living at Goldhanger?
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I honestly can't say what I would do in the same situation - I might want to stay to feel close to them but I wouldn't be able to get the tragic event out of my mind. The only thing I can say is, JB didn't get the opportunity to live there, maybe it would have proven too difficult for him in the long run - I guess we'll never know.
Lol, nice try...all we DO know, is that he went to tribunal to get it.
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Lol, nice try...all we DO know, is that he went to tribunal to get it.
Actually, I wasn't trying to be flippant. But I can understand the tribunal after what happened. I imagine that he has a whole load of resentment which I am sure you feel is unjustified - however .....
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Actually, I wasn't trying to be flippant. But I can understand the tribunal after what happened. I imagine that he has a whole load of resentment which I am sure you feel is unjustified - however .....
For what it's worth I'm not sure I could live there but I also understand that they saw it as Nevill and June's lives work and didn't want that to be for nothing.
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For what it's worth I'm not sure I could live there but I also understand that they saw it as Nevill and June's lives work and didn't want that to be for nothing.
Well I just hope it's a happy place now with good vibes!! :)
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Truth is you've been cut off from the defence for years!
Bamber wants nothing to do with you because HE thinks you're bonkers!
Yep! Well stated as always, vidvic
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Yep! Well stated as always, vidvic
It's great being bonkers - better than being corrupt, and a conspirator...
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It's well documented that Sheila's body was found on the bed, during the second phase of the operation inside whf - police have edited out the linking phases between Sheila's body being originally found downstairs, and her body ending up on the bed, then being moved to the bedroom floor, and CPR being applied to try and keep her alive, long after 10 O'clock...
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It's well documented that Sheila's body was found on the bed, during the second phase of the operation inside whf - police have edited out the linking phases between Sheila's body being originally found downstairs, and her body ending up on the bed, then being moved to the bedroom floor, and CPR being applied to try and keep her alive, long after 10 O'clock...
Maybe you can show us some of the documentation?
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Mentioning living in family homes reminds me that in 1986,we as a family moved into a Victorian Villa on the seafront where it was my late husbands family home since 1942.
The house had seen 3 members of the family die there,,,but not in the circumstances of the Bambers,,,though nevertheless there were reminders of the presence of families past.
A beautiful Grade 2 building,,100ft garden,,a dream home in anyones' eyes,but---------------------I couldn't say that I was comfortable living there.Not because of the deaths of the former occupants,as the dead will never harm anyone,,but the fact that someone elses' hard work over the years had built the place up into the home that it was to them.
Everywhere around the place were reminders of how they'd amassed antiques,,and the usual riches of a successful businessman,,and I found it very difficult to accept that this would be " my home ". Because it had been my husbands home originally,I didn't have much choice and had gone along with his wishes.
The house itself was completely as though time had stood still from the 50's,with its furniture,decor,etc,,like a museum and you just felt that you shouldn't be touching or changing anything.
This aside,,there were also other family members who clearly begrudged us living there and it made me feel more uncomfortable than I already was,,,so as a consequence,,it never really felt as though it was my home,,and always had the feeling that it was someone elses'.
I remained there for 15 years until after my husband died,,then offloaded it,and breathed a sigh of relief.
I knew I couldn't carry on in a place that I knew was begrudged, particularly as I wasn't blood family.
It takes a certain person to live in a family home,,knowing that they've left their mark through hard work,,and I'm not that certain person who accepts anything handed to me on a plate.
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Oh,,and it includes a Cairn terrier who died the day before its master. 3 adults and a dog.
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Always bugged me that. Eatons apply for lease...how could they?....Bamber applies for lease....not a sound...
I think possibly that he was the first in line and the first direct family member?
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Yep! Well stated as always, vidvic
Well at least Mike isn't afraid to show his true identity. ::)
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I think possibly that he was the first in line and the first direct family member?
That would be correct,Lugg,,,exactly the same position as my late husband was in the Villa,,but it didn't go down well with his relatives,,because I was only related by marriage.!
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That would be correct,Lugg,,,exactly the same position as my late husband was in the Villa,,but it didn't go down well with his relatives,,because I was only related by marriage.!
That is how everyone is related lookout. In fact marriage is the greater bond.
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That is how everyone is related lookout. In fact marriage is the greater bond.
It matters not with some though Lugg. It's looked upon as an intrusion in some cases. Such as the wife of the husband who happened to have been a beneficiary,,particularly when that blood line dies.
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It matters not with some though Lugg. It's looked upon as an intrusion in some cases. Such as the wife of the husband who happened to have been a beneficiary,,particularly when that blood line dies.
I'm afraid it happens almost every time someone dies. The vultures are usually out. I'm not sugesting of course that JB's relatives were vultures or indeed him. I'm just saying that it almost always happens.
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I'm afraid it happens almost every time someone dies. The vultures are usually out. I'm not sugesting of course that JB's relatives were vultures or indeed him. I'm just saying that it almost always happens.
Worse when it's intestate,,as well it may have been so far as Jeremy was concerned ( being an outsider,like I was ) though still part of the family by marriage. I can never thank the solicitor in question,enough,for his work in trying to track down if a will was ever written,,as he went out of his way advertising openly and using his " wheels within wheels " around various offices locally.
I'll never forget 1986 in a hurry.It was horrible,,,and my first experience of internal squabbling.
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An interesting thought has just come to mind. Wasn't the company called N & J Bamber? Does this mean that Jeremy was a partner of that business to you think?
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An interesting thought has just come to mind. Wasn't the company called N & J Bamber? Does this mean that Jeremy was a partner of that business to you think?
Yes,Lugg,,Jeremy was part of the company. Neville had included him in
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Yes,Lugg,,Jeremy was part of the company. Neville had included him in the business.
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Gremlins.
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Oh my goodness me.. We have a guy acquitted of murdering two servicemen,,but the fact that the guys' DNA was found at the scene doesn't count,,said the prosecuting judge.? What.?
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An interesting thought has just come to mind. Wasn't the company called N & J Bamber? Does this mean that Jeremy was a partner of that business to you think?
Lugg, I thought it was Nevill and June.
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Lugg, I thought it was Nevill and June.
Ah! Could have been?
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June?
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I was wrong,,wasn't I.? Apologies. J for June,and not Jeremy.
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Hello lookout apology accepted ;D you wont be the first or the last to be wrong on this forum ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Hello lookout apology accepted ;D you wont be the first or the last to be wrong on this forum ;D ;D ;D ;D
Not by a long chalk!! ;D