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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on February 20, 2013, 08:49:PM

Title: Informatives, and the gang of firearms officers who abused crime scene...
Post by: mike tesko on February 20, 2013, 08:49:PM
(1) - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-bamber-police-used-my-familys-107641

Jeremy Bamber: Police used my family's corpses as props  

31 Jan 2011 07:00

Murderer Jeremy Bamber has accused police of using his family’s bodies as “props” in a secret training exercise hours after they were found shot.

He has discovered armed officers had already secured the scene when another team of marksmen entered the farmhouse where the corpses of his parents, sister and nephews lay.
 
The police papers from 1985 say their role there was for “informatives”, which basically means training.
 
But Bamber claims the eight-man rookie unit trampled over the crime scene – and argues it supports his case he is innocent.
 
The fresh evidence comes as the Criminal Cases Review Commission meets today to decide if he should get a final appeal 25 years after he was jailed for life.
 
In a letter to the Mirror, Bamber, 50, said: “It is just too awful to think senior police management sanctioned the training of other firearms officers using my dear old mum and dad and Sheila as props in their informatives.
 
“There is no way I could have been prosecuted had police admitted carrying out training exercises in the house before, during and after crime scene photos were taken. It’s not like me to cry very much but I can’t seem to stop myself.”
 
Bamber has been researching over 100,000 documents about his case in his cell in HMP Full Sutton.
 
Papers he found earlier this month suggest 43 officers from Essex police entered White House Farm, in Tolleshunt D’Arcy in 1985 – 17 more than was declared at his original trial.
 
It was apparently never revealed to Bamber’s defence a firearms unit arrived two hours after two other teams of marksmen found the bodies of Nevill and June Bamber, Sheila Caffell and her two sons.
 
None of them were scene-of-crime officers and the logs say their role there was for informatives.
 
Bamber claims the officers were ordered to the farm to gain experience on the aftermath of a shooting. Records show the bodies were not removed until several hours later and Bamber claims crucial evidence including the .22 rifle could have been moved while photos were taken.
 Rifle by window after farmhouse massacre
Killer's rifle by window after the farmhouse massacre
 
Sergeant Chris Bews, one of the first officers at the scene, admitted the investigation was mishandled and other senior police believe it did not “meet the standards of the time”.
 
Police initially suspected Sheila of killing her family and then herself.
 
Bamber said he got a phone call from his dad on the night of the murders saying she had gone crazy.
 
But doubts emerged after other relatives found a blood-stained silencer which fitted scratch marks on the kitchen mantlepiece. That suggested the silencer was fitted to the gun during the killer’s struggle with Nevill, found in the kitchen.
Title: Re: Informatives, and the gang of firearms officers who abused crime scene...
Post by: Steve_uk on February 20, 2013, 11:30:PM
Who created the stiffs in the first place..
Title: Re: Informatives, and the gang of firearms officers who abused crime scene...
Post by: big-goolies on February 20, 2013, 11:40:PM
im lost for words
Title: Re: Informatives, and the gang of firearms officers who abused crime scene...
Post by: big-goolies on February 20, 2013, 11:43:PM
accusing the police isnt going to prove anything
Title: Re: Informatives, and the gang of firearms officers who abused crime scene...
Post by: Lugg on February 21, 2013, 01:30:AM
accusing the police isnt going to prove anything
It will if there is proof of what JB says.
Title: Re: Informatives, and the gang of firearms officers who abused crime scene...
Post by: big-goolies on February 21, 2013, 09:33:PM
All JB and Mike seem to do is go over faults in the case.  These faults in the investigation dont really prove much.
As for the claims of the evidence that will clear JB i don't think it's anywhere
Title: Re: Informatives, and the gang of firearms officers who abused crime scene...
Post by: big-goolies on February 21, 2013, 09:35:PM
Who created the stiffs in the first place..

 
Was it the Tolleshunt D'Arcy pixies ?
Title: Re: Informatives, and the gang of firearms officers who abused crime scene...
Post by: Lugg on February 22, 2013, 09:33:AM
All JB and Mike seem to do is go over faults in the case.  These faults in the investigation dont really prove much.
As for the claims of the evidence that will clear JB i don't think it's anywhere
I believe they will if the police disturbed the crime scene in the way JB says they did. They could have altered the who perspective of the crime scene?
Title: Re: Informatives, and the gang of firearms officers who abused crime scene...
Post by: lookout on February 22, 2013, 10:22:AM
Surely if there's absolute proof that the crime scene had been tampered with,,,Jeremy should have been afforded a retrial. ?
Title: Re: Informatives, and the gang of firearms officers who abused crime scene...
Post by: mike tesko on February 23, 2013, 11:41:AM
All JB and Mike seem to do is go over faults in the case.  These faults in the investigation dont really prove much.
As for the claims of the evidence that will clear JB i don't think it's anywhere

Your interpretation of someone falsifying evidence and you trying to make out these are just faults in the investigation are typical approaches which seek to imply there is or was no wrong doing on the part of the police, and any prosecution witnesses...

What a wonderful get out clause...
Title: Re: Informatives, and the gang of firearms officers who abused crime scene...
Post by: Roch on February 23, 2013, 11:49:AM
Your interpretation of someone falsifying evidence and you trying to make out these are just faults in the investigation are typical approaches which seek to imply there is or was no wrong doing on the part of the police, and any prosecution witnesses...

What a wonderful get out clause...

It's a wind up Mike.  BG is on a wind up.