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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: Bambergate on December 09, 2012, 09:16:PM
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I can confirm that Taffs accident was a accident.
Something I wanted to know for certain and its taken a few months to find out,thanks for all who have helped me get to the end of this question.
I will still keep looking for people to help Jeremy.
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I can confirm that Taffs accident was a accident.
Something I wanted to know for certain and its taken a few months to find out,thanks for all who have helped me get to the end of this question.
I will still keep looking for people to help Jeremy.
Good job well done...... :) :) :) :)
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I can confirm that Taffs accident was a accident.
Something I wanted to know for certain and its taken a few months to find out,thanks for all who have helped me get to the end of this question.
I will still keep looking for people to help Jeremy.
How did you find that out?
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From a family member who witnessed the accident.
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From a family member who witnessed the accident.
So he wasn't alone when he fell off the ladder then?
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I trust one is absolutely for sure that it wasn't doubted.
Lugg, you wouldn't be thinking of a certain Mandy Rice-Davies riposte now, would you?
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From a family member who witnessed the accident.
Tragic accident involving a copper who had moral courage. A difficult situation to approach but it serves clarity and I think you did the right thing. I suspect they remain supportive of JB.
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Tragic accident involving a copper who had moral courage. A difficult situation to approach but it serves clarity and I think you did the right thing. I suspect they remain supportive of JB.
Well said,Roch.
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I wonder if it is of any merit to place the following information on the forum.
In the seventies and early eighties, Coggeshall was on the main route, from the continent, via Harwich, to the hinterland of the UK.
Of some seventy retail shops in that small and ancient town, roughly half of that number were engaged in the antiques trade, allied with the buying and selling of reproduction furniture.
Some of the furniture, for instance Davenports, ladies' writing tables, writing slopes, rolltop desks etc would have secret compartments incorporated in them. The same furniture was transported to and fro as 'shipping goods'. It is possible that they could have been used as 'mules' for the carriage of illicit goods.
In the centre of a one-way system of Coggeshall, there was/is a very large 15th century inn, latterly named the Cricketers. Sadly it burnt out, but has been refurbished.
Sited in the large carpark, was the mobile office of the CID section of EP's Witham area. Obviously it performed an important function for 'plod'. The fortunate 'plods' were wont to oil their toils, in the Private Bar, with the privacy of 'lock-ins'.
This was the busy time of the Farmer Bell mystery, the unsolved Diane Jones Case, and of course WHF.
It was mooted at the time, by the barmaid, that the senior detective put the manageress in the family way., necessitating the disappearance of the participants of this liaison.
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I wonder if it is of any merit to place the following information on the forum.
In the seventies and early eighties, Coggeshall was on the main route, from the continent, via Harwich, to the hinterland of the UK.
Of some seventy retail shops in that small and ancient town, roughly half of that number were engaged in the antiques trade, allied with the buying and selling of reproduction furniture.
Some of the furniture, for instance Davenports, ladies' writing tables, writing slopes, rolltop desks etc would have secret compartments incorporated in them. The same furniture was transported to and fro as 'shipping goods'. It is possible that they could have been used as 'mules' for the carriage of illicit goods.
In the centre of a one-way system of Coggeshall, there was/is a very large 15th century inn, latterly named the Cricketers. Sadly it burnt out, but has been refurbished.
Sited in the large carpark, was the mobile office of the CID section of EP's Witham area. Obviously it performed an important function for 'plod'. The fortunate 'plods' were wont to oil their toils, in the Private Bar, with the privacy of 'lock-ins'.
This was the busy time of the Farmer Bell mystery, the unsolved Diane Jones Case, and of course WHF.
It was mooted at the time, by the barmaid, that the senior detective put the manageress in the family way., necessitating the disappearance of the participants of this liaison.
Hi Campion, the whole Jimmy Bell, Wilfred Bull and of course Neville Bamber saga was very interesting, I also believe that Itallian Tony lived in those parts at that time.
He was an east end mobster, so the story goes and he also met a sticky end. Do you ever question a connection. Apart from Italian Tony who was more a hired gun, I think the others were all wealthy. Jimmy Bell eventually shot his second wife after bullying and goading and abusing his first. He also threatened June and Neville Bamber. Wiilfred Bull, wealthy antique dealert shot his wife and of course then Nevill Bamber, another wealthy farmer, gunned down with his family, was there no connection apart from the fact they all knew each other?
Just wonder sometimes if Nevill was as squeaky clean as was claimed???? ;D ;D
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I wonder if it is of any merit to place the following information on the forum.
In the seventies and early eighties, Coggeshall was on the main route, from the continent, via Harwich, to the hinterland of the UK.
Of some seventy retail shops in that small and ancient town, roughly half of that number were engaged in the antiques trade, allied with the buying and selling of reproduction furniture.
Some of the furniture, for instance Davenports, ladies' writing tables, writing slopes, rolltop desks etc would have secret compartments incorporated in them. The same furniture was transported to and fro as 'shipping goods'. It is possible that they could have been used as 'mules' for the carriage of illicit goods.
In the centre of a one-way system of Coggeshall, there was/is a very large 15th century inn, latterly named the Cricketers. Sadly it burnt out, but has been refurbished.
Sited in the large carpark, was the mobile office of the CID section of EP's Witham area. Obviously it performed an important function for 'plod'. The fortunate 'plods' were wont to oil their toils, in the Private Bar, with the privacy of 'lock-ins'.
This was the busy time of the Farmer Bell mystery, the unsolved Diane Jones Case, and of course WHF.
It was mooted at the time, by the barmaid, that the senior detective put the manageress in the family way., necessitating the disappearance of the participants of this liaison.
Great post ! It brings back a few memories, we used to go in that pub a lot and I remember the lock-ins, vaguely remember the Police station opposite, never seemed to have any coppers in it at night though.... It seems such a very long time ago.. there was another pub around the corner with some kind of petanque league - near the bridge, but the name escapes me, its been a private residence for years now though.... Have you any other stories from that era ? Always a pleasure to read your posts...
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In my sub-conscious mind, I put a made-up word as an appendage to the title of this Topic. It is SKULPOKERY, - it could conversely be termed::- JIGGERYDUGGERY.
'M', Thankyou for your colourful memories of the fraternity of Coggeshall, with its scenic and historic PayCOCKes House.
Re Lugg's enquiries, is your forename Thomas - he of 'the doubt'?
As to the hon. Bambergate's opening thread, I am puZZled by his assertions and lack of answers to quiZZing. Could it be he has a selective memory, and exhibited a 'Woof Woof'? Has his brain been invaded by Mertol's ( or Mat's ) aliens? May I behove him to confirm, or deny, that which Lugg poses?
Could the info have come from Muggy? Is She LyING in the same rosestrewn bed as Stevie? One things for shaw, they didn't get it from Wilkes'. Let's assume it emanates from Ramsden. They do appear to be singing from the same hymn/her sheet.
I am glad to be enlightened by the 'Girls', in the matter of the toilet seat. When Farmer Bell paraded his then wife round the Camp, with her head framed with the
bog lid, he was conveying to all and sundry, the message of her unfaithfulness.
Thankyou, Boheme (what a lovely name) for your kind remarks.
Off topic here - but did yuse lot see Jamie and Jimmy on Southend Pier, with Chattyman? I can foresee them being sued by the 'Froggies'. I can recommend the m a good lawyer, it rhymes with 'Polly Parrot'
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What might have taken place, if DCI Thomas Jones' tragic accident had not occurred?
Is it feasible that he may have testified for the defence and if so, to what end? Surely 'Taff' would not have been allowed to expose a scenario, that would involve Sheila being known to be alive prior to the TFG raid, a training exercise involving informatives that disturbed the crime scene, two bodies having been recorded as being found upon entry by TFG officers with open mics, two rifle sightings at upstairs windows prior to raid commencing etc etc?
How would 'Taff' have been muted and impeded from exposing any of this, while assisting the defence? The prosecution wouldn't even have got of the ground.
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Great post ! It brings back a few memories, we used to go in that pub a lot and I remember the lock-ins, vaguely remember the Police station opposite, never seemed to have any coppers in it at night though.... It seems such a very long time ago.. there was another pub around the corner with some kind of petanque league - near the bridge, but the name escapes me, its been a private residence for years now though.... Have you any other stories from that era ? Always a pleasure to read your posts...
The pub of which you speak was the "Portobella" run, at one time, by Anita and Alf. I wonder if we were ever there at the same time. I recall the "Crick" being taken over by the constabulary, but I'd be surprised if some of them remember being there. At least one could be certain of being let off for being "close" to the limit by saying that you'd been in the "Crick" giving a statement ;D ;D ;D ;)
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What might have taken place, if DCI Thomas Jones' tragic accident had not occurred?
Is it feasible that he may have testified for the defence and if so, to what end? Surely 'Taff' would not have been allowed to expose a scenario, that would involve Sheila being known to be alive prior to the TFG raid, a training exercise involving informatives that disturbed the crime scene, two bodies having been recorded as being found upon entry by TFG officers with open mics, two rifle sightings at upstairs windows prior to raid commencing etc etc?
How would 'Taff' have been muted and impeded from exposing any of this, while assisting the defence? The prosecution wouldn't even have got of the ground.
You realise of course that we only have extracts from his notebook. One wonders why we have never seen the whole notebook?
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The pub of which you speak was the "Portobella" run, at one time, by Anita and Alf. I wonder if we were ever there at the same time. I recall the "Crick" being taken over by the constabulary, but I'd be surprised if some of them remember being there. At least one could be certain of being let off for being "close" to the limit by saying that you'd been in the "Crick" giving a statement ;D ;D ;D ;)
Thats the one !! We used to go there almost every weekend in 1985.... we used to do a crawl from there to the Cricketers and that other pub near Paycocks house of which the name also escapes me ! .... Just a bunch of young hippies drinking beer and smoking weed... never had any trouble at all... its over 20 years since we moved out but can remember having a lot of parties in big farmhouses ... who knows maybe you were there !!
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Thats the one !! We used to go there almost every weekend in 1985.... we used to do a crawl from there to the Cricketers and that other pub near Paycocks house of which the name also escapes me ! .... Just a bunch of young hippies drinking beer and smoking weed... never had any trouble at all... its over 20 years since we moved out but can remember having a lot of parties in big farmhouses ... who knows maybe you were there !!
You may have been at the "Port" around the time Sue was there. The pub near Paycockes is the "Fleece" which I was living very close to at one time. I guess you're talking about the 1990s. Coggeshall was really happening during the 1970s. Some of the parties then were PHEW!!!! WOW!!!
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Morning april for all you know yourself and boheme may have shared a joint :)
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You may have been at the "Port" around the time Sue was there. The pub near Paycockes is the "Fleece" which I was living very close to at one time. I guess you're talking about the 1990s. Coggeshall was really happening during the 1970s. Some of the parties then were PHEW!!!! WOW!!!
The Fleece, thats it... I caught the end of the 1970's there as we had just left school....I had better stop writing too much but there was fun to be had in that sleepy old town its true !!
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Morning april for all you know yourself and boheme may have shared a joint :)
Susan, the only one I ever smoked was in 1991 and I'm still waiting for the effects!!! I think I may have my own built in "high" and I suspect I could probably get drunk on water................but I prefer the flavour of wine ;D ;D ;D
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Hi april I know what you mean about built in "high" I have it too and can be so happy in my own little world. Some guys rolled me a joint and I think they were taking the mick as it had no effect at all I think it was just a roll up with a few flakes of black twist in it. I was waiting for the earth to move but it did not happen :) :) :) Still waiting :)
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Susan, the only one I ever smoked was in 1991 and I'm still waiting for the effects!!! I think I may have my own built in "high" and I suspect I could probably get drunk on water................but I prefer the flavour of wine ;D ;D ;D
How strange...me too, never was much of a fan of the herb but my friends were, seemed like everyone was around then.. much prefered a glass of wine.... then ended up selling it for a company in London... by chance one of my accounts was a little restaurant called school dinners... their famous knee trembler was in fact jelly and ice cream spoon fed by one of the waitresses sitting on one's knee.. now you know my interest in this particular case !!
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Hi boheme you sould like you did not need any weed you were quite naughty without it. I was the same I was a wild child in my younger days would like to be an older wild child but don't get chance anymore :)
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Hi boheme you sould like you did not need any weed you were quite naughty without it. I was the same I was a wild child in my younger days would like to be an older wild child but don't get chance anymore :)
Ha Ha, its true ! Now just a happily married guy chilling out in the South of France....
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Hi boheme Lucky you. I am chilling in the far North of Scotland. :(
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Hi boheme Lucky you. I am chilling in the far North of Scotland. :(
And I'm (chilled) still in the North of Essex...............but no longer in Coggeshall.
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How strange...me too, never was much of a fan of the herb but my friends were, seemed like everyone was around then.. much prefered a glass of wine.... then ended up selling it for a company in London... by chance one of my accounts was a little restaurant called school dinners... their famous knee trembler was in fact jelly and ice cream spoon fed by one of the waitresses sitting on one's knee.. now you know my interest in this particular case !!
Boheme, PLEASE tell us, did anyone, in your opinion, associated with this case, like having their botty smacked and their nappy changed by nanny? Yes or No, will, I think, be sufficient ;D ;D ;D
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What happy times. I know let's have a belated Wake for Taff Jones.
I suggest the gloomy pub up Stonebridge Street, The Chapel, betwixt the Clocktower and Mark Marchant's clockshop. Such an enterprising and hilarious entrepreneur, what was he on?
That's the venue sorted then. Shall we have it on the feast of St Sulpice, just after Crimbo( are you with us Andrea?)
We will be recognised by Plod, by wearing buttonholes of Scarlet Pimp's. If MAT'S in doorway, step carefully over.
And one more thing, Susan - Dress to be optional.
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What happy times. I know let's have a belated Wake for Taff Jones.
I suggest the gloomy pub up Stonebridge Street, The Chapel, betwixt the Clocktower and Mark Marchant's clockshop. Such an enterprising and hilarious entrepreneur, what was he on?
That's the venue sorted then. Shall we have it on the feast of St Sulpice, just after Crimbo( are you with us Andrea?)
We will be recognised by Plod, by wearing buttonholes of Scarlet Pimp's. If MAT'S in doorway, step carefully over.
And one more thing, Susan - Dress to be optional.
Campion, Mark is still there, doing what he does best ;) ;) ;) The location of the Chapel is Market Hill. Stoneham St begins a the Clock Tower. After Crimble is a date then ;D ;D ;D
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Boheme, PLEASE tell us, did anyone, in your opinion, associated with this case, like having their botty smacked and their nappy changed by nanny? Yes or No, will, I think, be sufficient ;D ;D ;D
Honestly no idea ! Did they do that ? I was 22 at the time and rather wet behind the ears... All I remember is a few young girls dressed in school uniforms with fishnet stockings.... however they were very friendly and treated me ok, we only supplied a couple of wines on their list, I never went there in the evening, only lunchtime...and of course as a supplier not as a punter !