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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: killingeve on December 07, 2012, 05:19:PM
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The following was shown earlier in the week:
Jeanette Winterson: My Monster and Me
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01p9b9c/imagine..._Winter_2012_Jeanette_Winterson_My_Monster_and_Me/
For those of you who don't know, Jeanette is a best-selling author who has won many literary awards. She was adopted at birth (I think) 1960 and raised by Mrs Winterson in Accrington.
There are striking parallels between Jeanette Winterson and her adoptive mother, who she only ever referred to as Mrs Winterson, and June and Sheila:
Mrs Winterson is a religious fanatic who refers to Jeanette as the Devil's child and preaches 24/7.
Jeanette attempts suicide when her partner leaves (female - she's a lesbian) (More men for us girls :) )
Jeanette meets with her birth mother.
(Patti you will love it. Right up your street quite literally. Plenty of 2 ups and 2 downs some with running water and electricity. They say 'boooook' instead of 'book'. Patti I love you really despite our cultural differences ;) :) )
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Hello NN do I suspect you are extracting the urine out of the North of England. Naughty Nun we have moved on a little since then I hope :) :) :) :)
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The following was shown earlier in the week:
Jeanette Winterson: My Monster and Me
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01p9b9c/imagine..._Winter_2012_Jeanette_Winterson_My_Monster_and_Me/
For those of you who don't know, Jeanette is a best-selling author who has won many literary awards. She was adopted at birth (I think) 1960 and raised by Mrs Winterson in Accrington.
There are striking parallels between Jeanette Winterson and her adoptive mother, who she only ever referred to as Mrs Winterson, and June and Sheila:
Mrs Winterson is a religious fanatic who refers to Jeanette as the Devil's child and preaches 24/7.
Jeanette attempts suicide when her partner leaves (female - she's a lesbian) (More men for us girls :) )
Jeanette meets with her birth mother.
(Patti you will love it. Right up your street quite literally. Plenty of 2 ups and 2 downs some with running water and electricity. They say 'boooook' instead of 'book'. Patti I love you really despite our cultural differences ;) :) )
Ha! You are the second person to tell me they love me today. The first one was really special and it melted my heart and the thought that someone who I had never met before could say such endearing words over whelmed me, to the point of tears.
It does not matter who we are, what shape we are, what colour we are or what culture we are...we are unique human beings living in a today's worlds which is so full of love. It is only the minority that have loveless thoughts, but, I feel they are the ones that need loving the most....So thank you Naughty Nun for telling me you love me, though you don't know me...I love thee back..as we Yorkshire folk put it....
Sorry, but the video stopped working so was not able to watch it all..... :) :) :) :) :)
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Hello NN do I suspect you are extracting the urine out of the North of England. Naughty Nun we have moved on a little since then I hope :) :) :) :)
Hey Susan, why have you only got half a name?
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Hello april one of my hobbies is getting married so I thought it would save changing my surname all the time :)
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Hello april one of my hobbies is getting married so I thought it would save changing my surname all the time :)
;D ;D ;D
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Hello april one of my hobbies is getting married so I thought it would save changing my surname all the time :)
As long as you upgrade your bank account each time it will be a paid hobby ;D ;D ;D
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Hey Susan, why have you only got half a name?
She has gone all technical with the thingies.....lol :) :) :) :) :)
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April of course I do but a change is so nice . Thought I might try a Yorkshire man next :)
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April of course I do but a change is so nice . Thought I might try a Yorkshire man next :)
I'm not trying any man, spat the last out and the next can shove off....lol :) :) :) :)
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She has gone all technical with the thingies.....lol :) :) :) :) :)
Too much information methinks, Patti ;) ;) ;)
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As long as you upgrade your bank account each time it will be a paid hobby ;D ;D ;D
Yes April as good a job as any. ;D ;D
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Patti I have saved the best till last :) :) :)
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Patti I have saved the best till last :) :) :)
does he deliver letters....pray tell! :) :) :) :) :)
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Why have we got this thread about June and Sheila. Personally I find it disrespectful. We dont know what their relationship was like...only other peoples opinions. Imo
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Why have we got this thread about June and Sheila. Personally I find it disrespectful. We dont know what their relationship was like...only other peoples opinions. Imo
Maggie, I think June was a gentle woman who loved her own mother dearly and visited her nearly everyday. I just don't think she could handle two modern children, with a total different outlook on life....None the less, she did protect Sheila when she found Colin in the field with her, when she had come out of hospital....June blamed Colin, for she found them naked....she was furious like any mother would be after her daughter had just come out of hospital....I think June was misunderstood. Colin makes it clear that he disliked her, maybe that was because she wanted to protect her.... :) :) :) :)
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Patti my aspirations are rather higher than a postie. I wish to return to Yorkshire as lady of the manner :) you can have the postie ladders and all. :)
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Maggie I am sure June and Ralph did their best as parents and that would be all they could do. I can assure you had my Mum and Dad found me naked in a field I would have known about so would the lucky fella. Probably Colin did not like June as she would not let him have all his own way. Whatever happened in the Bamber family would not be all down to Ralph and June some of our behaviour is in the genes and Sheila and Jeremy would have got that from their birth parents.
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Maggie, I think June was a gentle woman who loved her own mother dearly and visited her nearly everyday. I just don't think she could handle two modern children, with a total different outlook on life....None the less, she did protect Sheila when she found Colin in the field with her, when she had come out of hospital....June blamed Colin, for she found them naked....she was furious like any mother would be after her daughter had just come out of hospital....I think June was misunderstood. Colin makes it clear that he disliked her, maybe that was because she wanted to protect her.... :) :) :) :)
Patti, I think June could be described as unworldly. She was a dutiful daughter to a rather autocratic and intimidating mother who had taught her that the world was full of sin and wickedness. I imagine June sometimes found the world a difficult place to live in and would have done all she could to prevent her children from becoming tarnished by it. It's not impossible that Granny S had warned her about the "bad blood" known to flow through the veins adopted children, and if it was God's will that she couldn't have children, she would be defying him by adopting. She would undoubtedly have softened after she came to love Jeremy, but her words may have made June more conscious of their behaviour than she otherwise would have been.
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Patti, I think June could be described as unworldly. She was a dutiful daughter to a rather autocratic and intimidating mother who had taught her that the world was full of sin and wickedness. I imagine June sometimes found the world a difficult place to live in and would have done all she could to prevent her children from becoming tarnished by it. It's not impossible that Granny S had warned her about the "bad blood" known to flow through the veins adopted children, and if it was God's will that she couldn't have children, she would be defying him by adopting. She would undoubtedly have softened after she came to love Jeremy, but her words may have made June more conscious of their behaviour than she otherwise would have been.
I don't know April? I don't know the family, so in all fairness I can't make assumptions about them. No matter what they all suffered a great tragedy, dead or alive....it must be difficult for all concerned to live with....I look at the photo in the archives of June, Shelia and Jeremy and what a normal happy family they looked, all arm in arm stood in the kitchen....I wonder what the dogs name is that Sheila is holding? :) :) :) :)
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The following was shown earlier in the week:
Jeanette Winterson: My Monster and Me
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01p9b9c/imagine..._Winter_2012_Jeanette_Winterson_My_Monster_and_Me/
For those of you who don't know, Jeanette is a best-selling author who has won many literary awards. She was adopted at birth (I think) 1960 and raised by Mrs Winterson in Accrington.
There are striking parallels between Jeanette Winterson and her adoptive mother, who she only ever referred to as Mrs Winterson, and June and Sheila:
Mrs Winterson is a religious fanatic who refers to Jeanette as the Devil's child and preaches 24/7.
Jeanette attempts suicide when her partner leaves (female - she's a lesbian) (More men for us girls :) )
Jeanette meets with her birth mother.
(Patti you will love it. Right up your street quite literally. Plenty of 2 ups and 2 downs some with running water and electricity. They say 'boooook' instead of 'book'. Patti I love you really despite our cultural differences ;) :) )
We say book, you say buk :P
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April....I'm not so sure regarding Granny Speakmans attitude to adoption? I believe that she herself adopted a child,or at least took a child in and raised said child as her own?
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April....I'm not so sure regarding Granny Speakmans attitude to adoption? I believe that she herself adopted a child,or at least took a child in and raised said child as her own?
Jeremy was Granny Speakmans' favourite. She doted on him.
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April....I'm not so sure regarding Granny Speakmans attitude to adoption? I believe that she herself adopted a child,or at least took a child in and raised said child as her own?
Tyler, Hi. The willingness to adopt a child doesn't always denote warmth and love. I was adopted. "Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit" will tell you much of my own experiences..............however, unlike Steve, I wasn't catagorically saying it was that way with Granny S, more, throwing possibilities out for discussion. I knew two people who knew her. One was terrified of her, the other said coins would be tossed because nobody would volunteer their time for her, but against that, I'm certain there will be many who will have found her delightful.
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We say book, you say buk :P
Hi Caroline
The only two Southeners who refer to a 'book' as 'buk' are the Queen and Hyacinth Bucket pronounced "Bouquet". But in every Southener lurks a little Hyacinth, even if only in the little finger one raises pependicular when sipping, usually Earl Grey, from a cup. Of course in the North you have your big mugs of Yorkshire tea to slurp from which double up as a face wash to remove all the grime which continues to float in the atmosphere from the once successful industrial towns/coal mines.
The North has three redeeming qualities:
Landscape/areas of natural beauty
Manchester United Football Club
The Smiths/Morrisey
;) ;D
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Hi Caroline
The only two Southeners who refer to a 'book' as 'buk' are the Queen and Hyacinth Bucket pronounced "Bouquet". But in every Southener lurks a little Hyacinth, even if only in the little finger one raises pependicular when sipping, usually Earl Grey, from a cup. Of course in the North you have your big mugs of Yorkshire tea to slurp from which double up as a face wash to remove all the grime which continues to float in the atmosphere from the once successful industrial towns/coal mines.
The North has three redeeming qualities:
Landscape/areas of natural beauty
Manchester United Football Club
The Smiths/Morrisey
;) ;D
Er what coal mines? What steel works? There is no pollution where I live we have lichen attached to our roofs lol.
Plus I only drink tea from a china cup/mug...it tastes better. Are we really a north and south divide? Ha! :) :) :) :)
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Hi Caroline
The only two Southeners who refer to a 'book' as 'buk' are the Queen and Hyacinth Bucket pronounced "Bouquet". But in every Southener lurks a little Hyacinth, even if only in the little finger one raises pependicular when sipping, usually Earl Grey, from a cup. Of course in the North you have your big mugs of Yorkshire tea to slurp from which double up as a face wash to remove all the grime which continues to float in the atmosphere from the once successful industrial towns/coal mines.
The North has three redeeming qualities:
Landscape/areas of natural beauty
Manchester United Football Club
The Smiths/Morrisey
;) ;D
I have a foot in both worlds. Born a Southerner and brought up to speak the Queen's English. Which was then beaten out of me by the brutish northerners :D
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Hello Patti NN with her three redeeming qualities she missed out me and thee and there I am drinking tea out of a Denby cup and saucer and think I'm all that what a disappointment :)Mrs. Thatcher made sure our coal mines were well and truly closed :(
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Hi Roch and we aint finished with you yet lad so hang onto your cloth cap and whippet if you have one :) :) :)
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Hello Patti NN with her three redeeming qualities she missed out me and thee and there I am drinking tea out of a Denby cup and saucer and think I'm all that what a disappointment :)Mrs. Thatcher made sure our coal mines were well and truly closed :(
Hi Susan
Where you say drinking out of a cup and saucer I assume you mean you drink any spills straight from the saucer :P Denby is now made in China :(
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Hi NN No I pour the tea straight into the saucer and drink it as it cools much quicker but need the cup for the teabag as we are not quite posh enough to use teapots :) :) :)
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Hi Caroline
The only two Southeners who refer to a 'book' as 'buk' are the Queen and Hyacinth Bucket pronounced "Bouquet". But in every Southener lurks a little Hyacinth, even if only in the little finger one raises pependicular when sipping, usually Earl Grey, from a cup. Of course in the North you have your big mugs of Yorkshire tea to slurp from which double up as a face wash to remove all the grime which continues to float in the atmosphere from the once successful industrial towns/coal mines.
The North has three redeeming qualities:
Landscape/areas of natural beauty
Manchester United Football Club
The Smiths/Morrisey
;) ;D
Are mugs just a northern thing? Are you saying you use the 'special china' 24/7? Just bought a new mug actually (ebay - oh how I LOVE ebay!!) guess where it came from? Essex!! Someone down their is betraying their roots!! However, it is a bone china mug!!
I can think of one redeeming quality about the south - it's over 200 miles away!! ;) - JUST JOKING!! :)
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Hello Patti NN with her three redeeming qualities she missed out me and thee and there I am drinking tea out of a Denby cup and saucer and think I'm all that what a disappointment :)Mrs. Thatcher made sure our coal mines were well and truly closed :(
Hi Susan
Me and thee! Nowt wrong we reet folk, tha knows...get thee cowat on lass and go down't tow'd pit lane...lololol :) :) :) :)
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Are mugs just a northern thing? Are you saying you use the 'special china' 24/7? Just bought a new mug actually (ebay - oh how I LOVE ebay!!) guess where it came from? Essex!! Someone down their is betraying their roots!! However, it is a bone china mug!!
I can think of one redeeming quality about the south - it's over 200 miles away!! ;) - JUST JOKING!! :)
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Hi Caroline we don't like Mugs in the North. :) :) :) KIdding kidding love them :)
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I have a foot in both worlds. Born a Southerner and brought up to speak the Queen's English. Which was then beaten out of me by the brutish northerners :D
Hi Roch
Could you now be described as a bit of rough then :P :P :P
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Hi Patti my post to you was aimed at this thread not the other one that is too serious to make a joke of this one is not. My apologies for posting to the wrong thread.
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Hi Patti my post to you was aimed at this thread not the other one that is too serious to make a joke of this one is not. My apologies for posting to the wrong thread.
Tis OK Susan!.....No need to apologise, I'm thick skinned....lolol :) :) :) :) :)
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Hey Northern Girls
Do you get to ride your bike fast downhill over the cobbles as in the Hovis ad? Is this the real attraction of the North: lots of cobbled areas and descents?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mq59ykPnAE
Patti I think I now understand why you're not bothered about having a man in your life.
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Hey Northern Girls
Do you get to ride your bike fast downhill over the cobbles as in the Hovis ad? Is this the real attraction of the North: lots of cobbled areas and descents?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mq59ykPnAE
Patti I think I now understand why you're not bothered about having a man in your life.
I'm told that sitting on a washing machine during the spin cycle has the same effect ;D ;)
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april is that what you Southern Belle's do for a thrill. NN is cracking me up with her humourous comments she really makes my day. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Hey Northern Girls
Do you get to ride your bike fast downhill over the cobbles as in the Hovis ad? Is this the real attraction of the North: lots of cobbled areas and descents?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mq59ykPnAE
Patti I think I now understand why you're not bothered about having a man in your life.
That advert was not filmed in the north, it was filmed in the south and the voice portrayed is that of someone living in the south west.....lol
One wonders why you think not having a man in life is so important to this thread.....I wold love a man in my life, it's just that I am not looking for one, nor do I want one. They all piss in the same pot! :D :D :D :D :D
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Patti when the right man comes along you will fall over him. Do what I have done and try them from different parts of the Country then you will know who is the best :) :) :) Thought the advert was too posh for it to be from Yorkshire Ha Ha Ha. I love you my Yorkshire pudding. :)
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Patti you win the award for post of the day. Always thought it was a fake Yorkshire accent not an easy thing to do take us Yorkshire folk off. :) :) :)
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Patti when the right man comes along you will fall over him. Do what I have done and try them from different parts of the Country then you will know who is the best :) :) :) Thought the advert was too posh for it to be from Yorkshire Ha Ha Ha. I love you my Yorkshire pudding. :)
Try em out! LOL......Don't have the time Ha! Talking about puddings mine are just about to go into the oven....mmmmmmmmmm :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Patti nothing like a good Yorkshire Pudding filled with beef and rich gravy. Yum Yum :)
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That advert was not filmed in the north, it was filmed in the south and the voice portrayed is that of someone living in the south west.....lol
One wonders why you think not having a man in life is so important to this thread.....I wold love a man in my life, it's just that I am not looking for one, nor do I want one. They all piss in the same pot! :D :D :D :D :D
Hi Patti
Yes I know the ad was shot in Dorset, South West, and the voice sounds as though its from Wurzel country too. The point is, the North has lots of cobbled streets and descents with plenty of opportunity to freewheel over bumpy terrain. No need to feel embarrased. In the South we have an abudance of washing machines ;) ;) ;) Different apparatus; same effect :) :) :)
You and the other Northern girls have led me astray today. I'm going to finish cooking the dinner now and I might post something serious later after a glass of Sauvignon Blanc :)
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Hi Patti
Yes I know the ad was shot in Dorset, South West, and the voice sounds as though its from Wurzel country too. The point is, the North has lots of cobbled streets and descents with plenty of opportunity to freewheel over bumpy terrain. No need to feel embarrased. In the South we have an abudance of washing machines ;) ;) ;) Different apparatus; same effect :) :) :)
You and the other Northern girls have led me astray today. I'm going to finish cooking the dinner now and I might post something serious later after a glass of Sauvignon Blanc :)
I guess we demure(!!) Southern girls open up more after a glass or three of SB. My favourite tipple ;D Hic ;D ;D
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april Google is a wonderful tool :)
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april Google is a wonderful tool :)
Yes Susan, but which particlar use are you suggesting I use it for? ;D
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That advert was not filmed in the north, it was filmed in the south and the voice portrayed is that of someone living in the south west.....lol
One wonders why you think not having a man in life is so important to this thread.....I wold love a man in my life, it's just that I am not looking for one, nor do I want one. They all piss in the same pot! :D :D :D :D :D
This is a proper Hovis ad and not a cobble in site!! ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn5y1LtjoMI
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One wonders why you think not having a man in life is so important to this thread.....I wold love a man in my life, it's just that I am not looking for one, nor do I want one. They all piss in the same pot! :D :D :D :D :D
and they never put the seat down either...
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Caroline I like :) :) :) :) :) :)