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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: Patti on November 29, 2012, 10:44:AM
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8th to the 9th September SOCO do an extensive examination of the downstairs windows, they find nothing.
12th September Jeremy was interviewed by Jones. He asks JB about the window catch in the downstairs toilet.
16th September JB enters the said bathroom window to get some papers, he had left his keys in London.
28th September R. Cook takes downstairs bathroom window catch RWC/8
1st October Elliot's forensic team discover scratch marks on the bathroom window latch.
Question 1, How did Jones know about the latch on the 12th September?
Question 2, How come the forensic team found nothing between the 8th to the 9th of September?
Question 3, How could it be possible for Elliots forensic team to find a scratched window catch on the 1st of October, when Cook had taken it on the 28th of September?
12th September...
"Appellant: There are many ways to get into the house i.e. windows"
Question: "What do you mean, insecure windows?
Appellant: "Insecure windows, secure windows, it makes no difference".
284. On the 12 September, 2 days later he was asked:
"Question: Have you ever got in a window by putting something in between the window frames, like a knife, to move the catch so you could slide the window open?
Answer: "Yes".
Question: Which window?
Answer: Downstairs toilet and lounge window".
8th to 9th
Crime officers carried out a thorough examination of the scene on the 8 and 9 September, the terms of reference for the search of the scene were not disclosed to them and in particular they were not told that specific attention was paid to entry and exit marks at White House Farm. The examination had not revealed any scratch marks on the bathroom window. Our attention was drawn to a case diary kept by Mr Ainsley in which was recorded under 8 September:
16th
It was the defence case, revealed for the first time at trial, that the appellant made those marks following his release after Police interview on or about 16 September upon his return from London having forgotten his keys. It was of potential advantage to the defence to demonstrate that the window in question was examined on the 8, 9, or 10 September and that at that time no marks were found on the window.
1st October
The examination of the Farm for entry and exit marks became particularly significant. On the 1 October 1985 Brian Elliott a forensic scientist examined the window catch and surrounding area of the downstairs bathroom/toilet sash window. He noticed that the brass catch had been scratched on the inner edge and that there was damage to the white paintwork on the adjacent faces of the top of the bottom sash and the bottom of the top sash. The white paint on the outside of the window including the outer face of the top of the bottom sash appeared clean and fresh.
269. He concluded that the damage to the sash window and catch was consistent with a thin blade having been inserted between the closely fitting sashes of the window in an effort to force the catch open. Furthermore this attack occurred after the outside of the window had last been painted. There was evidence that the windows had been painted in June and July.
28th September:
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Interesting post, Patti. The mind boggles. The likelihood of them putting the catch back within 3 days (or at all) of them taking it....pretty small I'd say :-\
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Interesting post, Patti. The mind boggles. The likelihood of them putting the catch back within 3 days (or at all) of them taking it....pretty small I'd say :-\
Thank you Boo.....I must say that I am a tad obsessed when it comes to windows....lol :D :D :D
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Thank you Boo.....I must say that I am a tad obsessed when it comes to windows....lol :D :D :D
Particularly the shutter-type,eh,Patti.?
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Particularly the shutter-type,eh,Patti.?
Lol....................Oh yes! But we got there in the end.... :D :D :D
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Thank you Boo.....I must say that I am a tad obsessed when it comes to windows....lol :D :D :D
Me too, Patti! (As you know) We've butted heads on it (in a friendly way!) a few times... I think we both sense there is a lot of importance to it.
I shall print your first post out and devour it in my lunch hour.
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Me too, Patti! (As you know) We've butted heads on it (in a friendly way!) a few times... I think we both sense there is a lot of importance to it.
I shall print your first post out and devour it in my lunch hour.
Eating my words might make you more sick....Hope you are OK anyway....I'm off now so goodnight. :) ;) ;) ;)
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Good night! xx