Jeremy Bamber Forum
OFF TOPIC => General => Topic started by: guest154 on September 18, 2012, 05:52:PM
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Hey guys!
I'm done here. I can't handle the attacks any longer.
I joined this forum to debate the JEREMY BAMBER case.
Right away Keira began to message me - she asked me where I lived, how old am I? What's my phone number. And I fed her bullshit. Bullshit which she then posted on the forum over time - so I got stuck as living in London and being 33.
I'm not.
I wasn't leaving myself open to takeaways being sent to my house or taxis. If lieing about where I live is a crime, then fucking lock me up. But I bet ALOT of you that have been outed wish that you had been a little more careful.
I'm also certianly not a troll.
Then I fell out with a couple of the 'Blue' Forum members, it isn't easy posting as a member when you think that Bamber is guilty! ;D
After falling out with Grahame he told me to "fuck off to the red forum!" To which I asked "what is the red forum?!" And he sent me a link in a PM - that's when things started going terrible for me.
I met John, Tim, Andrea, Shona and quite a few others......but then I met Stephanie Hall who instantly began accusing me of being Kevin Craigie - I had no idea who it was. But she started to circulate to people that I was actually Kevin Craigie - so to put a stop to it I asked for her mobile number to call her - she said sure and we spoke on the phone. She apologised.
Two weeks later she changed her mind though, now she thought I was John Lamberton and that the person she had spoken to on the phone was someone that John Lamberton had put forward to fool her? :-\
Since then - as you've seen. I've been hounded by her. She believes I'm John Lamberton one week and Kevin Craigie the next.
But now John is taing her to the police and she's taking john and I'm left thinknig 'how the hell did I get invovled with these people'?
So that's it, certainly can't do this any longer.
If need be I'm willing to continue answering police questions - I haven't trolled anyone, I haven't posted ANYTHING about anyones family, I haven't spread links via PM and I won't be a witness for John, Stephanie or Conrad Murray. ;D
Even though I am sure it will be said, I am NOT leaving because I have done ANYTHING wrong to her, as you all have seen - she's abused me time and time again and got away with it. I've reported her posts too many times to cunt, not only against me but against bob, susan, bridget, petey....
Before I do go though, Patti, Bridget, Petey, Egap, AA, Roch, Andrea, Shona. It's been an honour.
I appealled for help from the mods, and ROch had his hands tied IMO. NGB tried but the only way he would stop the abuse is if I provided him with my home phone number, my work details and spoke to him on the phone. This was the last straw for me, it made me wonder what the hell is gonig on, why I am having to spend so much time on this matter and that - there are better things out there than being trolled on the internet.
[email protected] for anyone who wishes to have any contact.
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mat hunt is that rhyming slang.
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Well that sucks. :(
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Check your PMs if you're still here Mat.
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I would much rather Mat hung around than close his account. I cant help posting...
"So Mat, you're closing your account then?"
I like to read Mat's posts, as I do of other members who veer towards guilt. And Mat's got a good sense of humour. For all his controversy and the spats he has been involved in, I felt that Mat was becoming more disciplined in him self.
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Well I think I've pretty much had enough of all this nonesense, it kinda drags the whole place down and it's becoming increasingly difficult to ignore.
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personally I think its a real shame that Mat feels he has been forced out from this forum.
I appreciate that numerous posters here had personal spats with Mat over the months, but in my opinion he seemed a decent guy. I hope he returns at some point so we can continue the main purpose of this forum, which is to debate the possible miscarriage of justice JB has suffered.
I think in the last few days / weeks too many posters have been distracted from the purpose of this forum and threads have been filled with nasty attacks and bitchy comments between forum members.
I hope everyone is here for the same thing which is to debate JB and other possible miscarriages of justice and the forum can return to this, rather than getting distracted by other matters.
Of course debating highly emotive subjects is bound to lead to arguments as strong emotions are involved. I really hope people can try to think before they post as there is no need for bitchy / critical posts about other forum members.
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Mat my love I am so sorry it has come to this. If you go then I am going too. I have emailed you.
This is supposed to be the Jeremy Bamber Forum....IU feel some have forgotten. :( :( :( :(
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I have always enjoyed Mats posts too. I have read many thousands of posts over the past few weeks.It will be sad if he leaves.
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Mat my love I am so sorry it has come to this. If you go then I am going too. I have emailed you.
This is supposed to be the Jeremy Bamber Forum....IU feel some have forgotten. :( :( :( :(
Oh hey,Patti,,don't be wandering off.
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You gave me such a warm welcome Patti. please do not leave
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Tsk,,as soon as Mike turns his back we get all this. At least he kept the momentum going.
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Patti, if you leave, the forum will implode. I feel certain that we will all support you.
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Please don't go Maggie, all of this will blow over soon enough.
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Patti, if you leave, the forum will implode. I feel certain that we will all support you.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY PATTI....21 TODAY XXXXX CHEERS!!
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Please don't go Maggie, all of this will blow over soon enough.
Neil, have you been at Pattie's plonko???...I'm not going anywhere and we need to drink Patti's health. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Neil, have you been at Pattie's plonko???...I'm not going anywhere and we need to drink Patti's health. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thank goodness for that! ;D
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Whilst I am certain that all the other mods will have pm'd Patti their support, it would be good to hear from them on forum that we're all reading from the same page.
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Please don't go Maggie, all of this will blow over soon enough.
Does this mean Maggie is Patti? But Patti says she has to leave if Mat leaves, which means she must be John Lamberton, because we know Mat is John Lamberton.
So if Maggie is John Lamberton, who's Wodge Badgler?
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Thank goodness for that! ;D
Neil..it was Patti who said she wa going ....not me!! It ;D is also Patti's birthday today. ;D ;D
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Neil..it was Patti who said she wa going ....not me!! It ;D is also Patti's birthday today. ;D ;D
Is it? Happy birthday Ms P!!! ;D
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Does this mean Maggie is Patti? But Patti says she has to leave if Mat leaves, which means she must be John Lamberton, because we know Mat is John Lamberton.
So if Maggie is John Lamberton, who's Wodge Badgler?
Bob!!...No Patti is John Lambdrton and Maggie is Wodge Badgler ...unfortunately she lives in the west country and so is in great danger of being shot!! :o :o
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Neil..it was Patti who said she wa going ....not me!! It ;D is also Patti's birthday today. ;D ;D
Thanks Maggie, I got there in the end! Happy Birthday Patti. You would be an enormous loss to this forum so please don't go. This will all blow over.
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Bob!!...No Patti is John Lambdrton and Maggie is Wodge Badgler ...unfortunately she lives in the west country and so is in great danger of being shot!! :o :o
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Bob!!...No Patti is John Lambdrton and Maggie is Wodge Badgler ...unfortunately she lives in the west country and so is in great danger of being shot!! :o :o
Aye - that's a dangerous place to be a Badgler these days Maggie. You'd be better off taking cover on the London Underground...
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Oi, you guy's.... :) :) :) :) I'm not going anywhere yet and, thank you. It means a lot. Had a brilliant day and, been out with friends for meal earlier...I tell you something, you know who your friends are.....And a big thank you to Lookout for my card.....xxxxxxxx
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Aye - that's a dangerous place to be a Badgler these days Maggie. You'd be better off taking cover on the London Underground...
Yes I have decided that if the situation escalates that is where I will be found. Hope I recognise it. :-\ :-\
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Ahhh 2-1 Man City....cracking game. :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Hey, it looks as if we've all come out to play.
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Hey, it looks as if we've all come out to play.
Oh I say! 2-2 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I think Mat should come back as a birthday present to Patti - wrapped in nothing but a bow...
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This was Matt's thread.........and once again how quickly you all change the subject. It's exactly the same with JB..........you've forgotten all about him and thought of nothing but yourselves whilst you argue and slander one another. It's been sickening to even look at!
Why Hall has not been removed beggers belief.......anybody coming to this forum for the first time and reading the remarks and accusations by her against many of you has no doubt been off putting. Well, she certainly did a great job in ensuring Jeremy was not at the forefront of your minds as the threads were hijacked and topics of conversation diverted.
I've not commented on here for a very long time - the forum has completely lost it's way and some brilliant posters have been sidelined....
Jeremy would be absolutely gutted and annoyed to know what has happened here......and why it was not foreseen and stopped in it's tracks.
Seems action on here is only sanctioned 'once the horse has bolted!'
Mat, I can understand your wanting to leave......however, though many will not agree with me, I have found you to be both respectful and considerate. I have also witnessed you having to continually defend yourself, politely. Your going will be missed .....by me for sure!!
If Hall was removed...would you re-consider?
My very best wishes Mat x
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I think Mat should come back as a birthday present to Patti - wrapped in nothing but a bow...
Which should be placed where ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I think Mat should come back as a birthday present to Patti - wrapped in nothing but a bow...
I agree............Make my day Mat! Lets see that six pac.....lololol Shame on me! :) :) :) :)
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This was Matt's thread.........and once again how quickly you all change the subject. It's exactly the same with JB..........you've forgotten all about him and thought of nothing but yourselves whilst you argue and slander one another. It's been sickening to even look at!
Why Hall has not been removed beggers belief.......anybody coming to this forum for the first time and reading the remarks and accusations by her against many of you has no doubt been off putting. Well, she certainly did a great job in ensuring Jeremy was not at the forefront of your minds as the threads were hijacked and topics of conversation diverted.
I've not commented on here for a very long time - the forum has completely lost it's way and some brilliant posters have been sidelined....
Jeremy would be absolutely gutted and annoyed to know what has happened here......and why it was not foreseen and stopped in it's tracks.
Seems action on here is only sanctioned 'once the horse has bolted!'
Mat, I can understand your wanting to leave......however, though many will not agree with me, I have found you to be both respectful and considerate. I have also witnessed you having to continually defend yourself, politely. Your going will be missed .....by me for sure!!
If Hall was removed...would you re-consider?
My very best wishes Mat x
There are many of us here who will recognize what you say as being true. Over the last few days there has been little here that I've felt able to contribute to and judging by the response given to those who did it was a question of "damned if they did" and "damned if they didn't". Hardly a good basis for intelligent debate. Hopefully this forum can now return to who it was intended for, JEREMY BAMBER.
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This was Matt's thread.........and once again how quickly you all change the subject. It's exactly the same with JB..........you've forgotten all about him and thought of nothing but yourselves whilst you argue and slander one another. It's been sickening to even look at!
Why Hall has not been removed beggers belief.......anybody coming to this forum for the first time and reading the remarks and accusations by her against many of you has no doubt been off putting. Well, she certainly did a great job in ensuring Jeremy was not at the forefront of your minds as the threads were hijacked and topics of conversation diverted.
I've not commented on here for a very long time - the forum has completely lost it's way and some brilliant posters have been sidelined....
Jeremy would be absolutely gutted and annoyed to know what has happened here......and why it was not foreseen and stopped in it's tracks.
Seems action on here is only sanctioned 'once the horse has bolted!'
Mat, I can understand your wanting to leave......however, though many will not agree with me, I have found you to be both respectful and considerate. I have also witnessed you having to continually defend yourself, politely. Your going will be missed .....by me for sure!!
If Hall was removed...would you re-consider?
My very best wishes Mat x
Hi Aunt Agatha
I haven't forgotten Jeremy, I work tirelessly behind the scenes trying find mistake after mistake and I have found many!....I do this solely to try to find a solution for him. Please look at my recent thread regrading PV's Vanezes and Fletcher....it was a difficult job to do...and I doubt anyone on here has taken the time to do it....I even doubt the defence did it.....
I don't like what has been happening here recently and I have voiced my opinions back stage. I don't like members leaving either......I have asked Mat to return. Hopefully, he will.....I have also asked egap to return........
Lovely to see you on here...and, I hope that you will stay with us....xxxx
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It's sad that any one feels they need to leave because of another poster - however, Mat is no innocent and just a few weeks ago I felt the same because of him!
That said, I hope things can get back to discussing the case and that individual ego's and personalities are left out of it!
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Patti - when I stated some brilliant posters on here had been sidelined....you were one of them.
I feel your passion, and your understanding has shone through.....it is such a shame that newcomers to this forum were unable to view the wonderful work you do here......solely because the forum was hijacked!!
I've enjoyed your posts, your views and findings......along with a few others on here.....how nice it would be if you could all continue where you all left off before the deliberate interference occurred......along with Mat and his views and perception of the case.
I hope things get back on track very soon.
Best wishes, x
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Hello, Aggy, hope you are well xxx
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Hello Andi - Doing well at this end.
New job, new hours, new school. It's all go!!
How's yourself?
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Fine thanks. Full of cold, thanks to my daughter ;)
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Keep it to yourself hun!!
I do hope Mat comes back........
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Hey AA, good to see you here, you don't visit often enough. Get mat to come back will you?
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I will go in the garden to sneeze!!
I hope mat comes back too, we got along cush.
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Hey AA, good to see you here, you don't visit often enough. Get mat to come back will you?
I invited him out to Cyprus to take a break........he probably needs some time out. If changes are made regarding members on here, then I'd be hopeful of his return.
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Well I think I've pretty much had enough of all this nonesense, it kinda drags the whole place down and it's becoming increasingly difficult to ignore.
Harts, youre not going aswell are you?
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I dont know the full reasons but if mat feels he has been hounded out then thats wrong , mat may be suprised if he looks in with a view to return i requested to leave within the last week, i re decided to stay, the forum has lost its way a little it needs to be on the right track again, it used to be, sorry about your cold andrea a neat brandy will help.
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I dont know the full reasons but if mat feels he has been hounded out then thats wrong , mat may be suprised if he looks in with a view to return i requested to leave within the last week, i re decided to stay, the forum has lost its way a little it needs to be on the right track again, it used to be, sorry about your cold andrea a neat brandy will help.
Couldnt stomach brandy, mertol!
Tea for me im afraid.
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I invited him out to Cyprus to take a break........he probably needs some time out. If changes are made regarding members on here, then I'd be hopeful of his return.
You're preaching to the converted here ;)
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I dont know the full reasons but if mat feels he has been hounded out then thats wrong , mat may be suprised if he looks in with a view to return i requested to leave within the last week, i re decided to stay, the forum has lost its way a little it needs to be on the right track again, it used to be, sorry about your cold andrea a neat brandy will help.
Hi Mertol...where have you been? In Texas??
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Couldnt stomach brandy, mertol!
Tea for me im afraid.
You Yorkshire gals are supposed to be tough!, a friend told me yonks ago warm orange helps and that red stuff ultracloraseptic in a spray,tastes horrid but works if you have the guts to take it.
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You Yorkshire gals are supposed to be tough!, a friend told me yonks ago warm orange helps and that red stuff ultracloraseptic in a spray,tastes horrid but works if you have the guts to take it.
My mate used to drink hot orange. I just whinge and moan till i feel better ;)
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Hi Mertol...where have you been? In Texas??
Hi maggie i wish, ive just recently viewed a episode from season 8 another one tomorrow, patti is lying low i dont know if she has run out of plonko.
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Hi maggie i wish, ive just recently viewed a episode from season 8 another one tomorrow, patti is lying low i dont know if she has run out of plonko.
She was watching the footie mertol...don't know where that's up to at the moment.
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I'm done in....lololol
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I'm done in....lololol
Pattie...pull yourself together you still have 1 hour and 7 minutes to go. :o xx Old age is not an excuse imo ;D ;D ;D
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Sorry if I have returned messages tonight......I have had that many PM's plus emails....Thank you all for supporting me and, Jeremy's and fight for freedom....this is what the forum is all about. xxxx
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Pattie...pull yourself together you still have 1 hour and 7 minutes to go. :oxx
lol............................ I am OK honest! xxxx
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Neil..it was Patti who said she wa going ....not me!! It ;D is also Patti's birthday today. ;D ;D
Happy Birthday Patti. Hope you have had a lovely day. :)
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Happy Birthday Patti. Hope you have had a lovely day. :)
I have and, thank you OnceSaid... :) :) :) :) :)
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I have and, thank you OnceSaid... :) :) :) :) :)
on such days egg on toast a glass of plonko and shortly kippo is a perfect combination to end the day.
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on such days egg on toast a glass of plonko and shortly kippo is a perfect combination to end the day.
Mertol :) Nowt wrong with eggs on toast....I like beans on toast with grilled cheese on the top...it's deliciously cheap.....I am enjoying my plonko. Day off tomorrow. YEY! :) :) :)
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Mertol :) Nowt wrong with eggs on toast....I like beans on toast with grilled cheese on the top...it's deliciously cheap.....I am enjoying my plonko. Day off tomorrow. YEY! :) :) :)
egg on toast a bobby dazzler patti, i bought a 2.49 cheapo white bottle at tesco today not bad its not in the fridge but its going in before i turn in cant gtet used to room temp
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egg on toast a bobby dazzler patti, i bought a 2.49 cheapo white bottle at tesco today not bad its not in the fridge but its going in before i turn in cant gtet used to room temp
Oh Mertol. Wine should be at room temperature when drank. Shove your nose deep into the glass as far as it will go and suction.........................breath the aroma.....Never ever put wine in the fridge, it spoils the taste. lol :) :) :) :) :)
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Oh Mertol. Wine should be at room temperature when drank. Shove your nose deep into the glass as far as it will go and suction.........................breath the aroma.....Never ever put wine in the fridge, it spoils the taste. lol :) :) :) :) :)
been there done that , the fridge is my saviour, time for kippo patti , i may be a distant relative to rip van winkle, night night.
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been there done that , the fridge is my saviour, time for kippo patti , i may be a distant relative to rip van winkle, night night.
Mertol you wont be told...lol i nights and take good care....speak soon... :) :) :) :) :)
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Happy Birthday Patti xxxx
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Thank you all, sorry for not replying to each and everyone last night. :) :) :)
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This was Matt's thread.........and once again how quickly you all change the subject. It's exactly the same with JB..........you've forgotten all about him and thought of nothing but yourselves whilst you argue and slander one another. It's been sickening to even look at!
Why Hall has not been removed beggers belief.......anybody coming to this forum for the first time and reading the remarks and accusations by her against many of you has no doubt been off putting. Well, she certainly did a great job in ensuring Jeremy was not at the forefront of your minds as the threads were hijacked and topics of conversation diverted.
I've not commented on here for a very long time - the forum has completely lost it's way and some brilliant posters have been sidelined....
Jeremy would be absolutely gutted and annoyed to know what has happened here......and why it was not foreseen and stopped in it's tracks.
Seems action on here is only sanctioned 'once the horse has bolted!'
Mat, I can understand your wanting to leave......however, though many will not agree with me, I have found you to be both respectful and considerate. I have also witnessed you having to continually defend yourself, politely. Your going will be missed .....by me for sure!!
If Hall was removed...would you re-consider?
My very best wishes Mat x
What a total load of rubbish. You have not been an active member here for a long time. You seem to prefer hanging out on Lamberton's forum. You certainly keep good company. Are you trying to help Lamberton to visit Jeremy?
As far as Mat is concerned, he left because he chose to. All is not as it seems.
Finally - how do you know what Jeremy would think?
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Oh Mertol. Wine should be at room temperature when drank. Shove your nose deep into the glass as far as it will go and suction.........................breath the aroma.....Never ever put wine in the fridge, it spoils the taste. lol :) :) :) :) :)
I agree!! Nothing worse than cold wine!! Well, obviously lots of things are worse but you know what I mean LOL :)
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I agree!! Nothing worse than cold wine!! Well, obviously lots of things are worse but you know what I mean LOL :)
You are referring to red wine I presume? White wine is best served at about 8 degrees, well below normal room temperature.
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You are referring to red wine I presume? White wine is best served at about 8 degrees, well below normal room temperature.
I was wondering that - I'd rather drink cold red wine than warm white wine any day!
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You are referring to red wine I presume? White wine is best served at about 8 degrees, well below normal room temperature.
Nope, don't like drinking white wine out of the fridge - I'm not suggesting it should be warm, just not straight from the fridge. I know it's frowned upon but, it's the way I like it LOL
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Hi Bridget how are you today. I hate red wine white wine any colour of wine :) warm or cold.
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Hi Bridget how are you today. I hate red wine white wine any colour of wine :) warm or cold.
I'm fine thank you Susie, not long back from a trog round Lakeside shopping centre.
Do you drink something else or not at all?
Nope, don't like drinking white wine out of the fridge - I'm not suggesting it should be warm, just not straight from the fridge. I know it's frowned upon but, it's the way I like it LOL
Blimey - I've been known to put ice in mine (white wine that is..)
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Mertol you wont be told...lol i nights and take good care....speak soon... :) :) :) :) :)
There was a change of plan patti i was not quite honest with you, the bottle of white stayed at the side of the fridge overnight and the bottle is a little cold being on the vinyl floor upon smell the plonko smells a little woody it has a rich bite , so the plonko is ready for dallas at 9.
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Blimey - I've been known to put ice in mine (white wine that is..)
LOL - I knew what you meant!! :).
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Bridget I never drink alcohol at all. I am sure you understand pole dancing and drink don't go together very well ;)
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Bridget I never drink alcohol at all. I am sure you understand pole dancing and drink don't go together very well ;)
A dangerous combination I imagine!
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Mertol you wont be told...lol i nights and take good care....speak soon... :) :) :) :) :)
im now aftertasting grape yep grape.
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I never drink alcohol at all.
I also abstain. It is an ungodly substance.
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Who can remember when a bottle of Leibfraumilch was less than £2 and a bottle of just about anything at all could be had for 50p on a daytrip to Bolougne?
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Hi Roch think you maybe telling porky pies :) You disappear every Friday night ;)
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I also abstain. It is an ungodly substance.
Fibber...
Who can remember when a bottle of Leibfraumilch was less than £2 and a bottle of just about anything at all could be had for 50p on a daytrip to Bolougne?
I can! And you didn't even need a passport, you could a day pass from the post office or somewhere..
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Who can remember when a bottle of Leibfraumilch was less than £2 and a bottle of just about anything at all could be had for 50p on a daytrip to Bolougne?
Remember with fondness filling every cranny of your vauxhall rascal to capacity now thanks to the euro no more, mindless robbing butchers the eu.
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Remember with fondness filling every cranny of your vauxhall rascal to capacity now thanks to the euro no more, mindless robbing butchers the eu.
The Carre carbuncle in Calais can't hold a candle to those tiny shops which frequently sold the most wonderful cheeses, too.
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The Carre carbuncle in Calais can't hold a candle to those tiny shops which frequently sold the most wonderful cheeses, too.
Do I mean Carrefour.......or five?
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I also abstain. It is an ungodly substance.
youre avatar offers a different stance...
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Bridget I never drink alcohol at all. I am sure you understand pole dancing and drink don't go together very well ;)
It works wonders for me!
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I would much rather Mat hung around than close his account. I cant help posting...
"So Mat, you're closing your account then?"
I like to read Mat's posts, as I do of other members who veer towards guilt. And Mat's got a good sense of humour. For all his controversy and the spats he has been involved in, I felt that Mat was becoming more disciplined in him self.
you will be badly missed mat mate. Its just a pity the mods didnt give you any backup when you were be so savagely attacked.
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you will be badly missed mat mate. Its just a pity the mods didnt give you any backup when you were be so savagely attacked.
John Lamberton please do not post any further. You have only avoided a ban under this username as you used it to PM your request to Roch for posts to be deleted and it was agreed that this channel of communication should be left open. If you wish to communicate with me by PM do so but otherwise do not exercise the privileges of a registered user.
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John Lamberton please do not post any further. You have only avoided a ban under this username as you used it to PM your request to Roch for posts to be deleted and it was agreed that this channel of communication should be left open. If you wish to communicate with me by PM do so but otherwise do not exercise the privileges of a registered user.
somebodys got to moderate your forum as you seem completely unable to do so.
i am still awaiting your response to our proposition.
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somebodys got to moderate your forum as you seem completely unable to do so.
Somebody needs to moderate you Lamberton and I suspect that will happen sooner than you expect.
Goodbye!
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Roch I also do not understand why you allowed MAT to continue to post when you also knew he was a troll?
Bring back Grahame and Jackie P I say - at least they gave a damn about JB and INjustice and were making a difference.
Roch there appeared to be a time when you and Jackie were friends; can I ask why that changed? What was responsible for the misunderstandings?
Mat - I clashed with Mat on a few occasions but for the most part I got on with him and found some of his posts amusing. I think Mat found me approachable which helped smooth things for him on the forum sometimes. Mat did get in to a lot of scrapes.
Grahame - despite some heated words recently, I have a lot of respect for Grahame and found his case related posts were often of a high standard.
Jackie - I felt that I have been very accommodating towards Jackie and also very supportive of her.
It would be interesting to get other long-standing forum members opinions on whether I was or I wasn't accommodating and supportive towards Jackie.
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MAT is a troll!
Jackie and Grahame are real people who posted using their own names.
Am I missing something?
Possibly that a troll can be also defined as such according to how they post and act behind the scenes. I don';t think that somebody is not a troll simply because they use their real name. But I think I can see what you are getting at, in that it is more open and honest to use your own name. Fair dos.
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Hi Stephanie. Roch is a good guy and he is very fair towards everybody on here.... :) :) :)
I don't know a great deal about mat, but he was always OK with me and I was OK with him, even though we had different opinions. :)
Can I ask you what the situation is with Simon now? Is it likely his case will be sent to the court of appeal? :) :) :)
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Mat - I clashed with Mat on a few occasions but for the most part I got on with him and found some of his posts amusing. I think Mat found me approachable which helped smooth things for him on the forum sometimes. Mat did get in to a lot of scrapes.
Grahame - despite some heated words recently, I have a lot of respect for Grahame and found his case related posts were often of a high standard.
Jackie - I felt that I have been very accommodating towards Jackie and also very supportive of her.
It would be interesting to get other long-standing forum members opinions on whether I was or I wasn't accommodating and supportive towards Jackie.
You always appeared fair and supportive in my opinion.
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Patti do you think MAT was Jacqueline Lynch?
MAT was a troll - all the posts I've even seen written by MAT were either goading, derogatory, libellous or defamatory....
Are you referring to PM's?
Simon's case is still under review by the CCRC - it's all there on his webiste if you care to read it Patti - the blog is a good place to start.
No I don't Stephanie think he is female and, I hope Mat will be back one day. He was a bit of a lad sometimes...He was never nasty towards me. I could tell him off and he wouldn't bare any grudges....
I have already read Simon's case Stephanie and I do RT your plight on Twitter. :)
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Quoted the wrong post - here you go Roch....
Roch I also do not understand why you allowed MAT to continue to post when you also knew he was a troll?
Bring back Grahame and Jackie P I say - at least they gave a damn about JB and INjustice and were making a difference.
Roch there appeared to be a time when you and Jackie were friends; can I ask why that changed? What was responsible for the misunderstandings?
Grahame and Jackie were good members , Jackie had fire and guts affraid of no one , a quality i admire, Grahame was cool and collected , both were in pursuit of the truth is that a hinderence ?
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Grahame and Jackie were good members , Jackie had fire and guts affraid of no one , a quality i admire, Grahame was cool and collected , both were in pursuit of the truth is that a hinderence ?
Some people come here soley to cause trouble mertol. They have done their homework and they know who they are gunning for and they know what buttons to press......they are called trolls..as you know :)
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Grahame and Jackie were good members , Jackie had fire and guts affraid of no one , a quality i admire, Grahame was cool and collected , both were in pursuit of the truth is that a hinderence ?
I agree. Both are sorely missed.
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You always appeared fair and supportive in my opinion.
Thanks HM.
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Mertol is does seem to me that some people feel threatened by those that seek the truth.
there are trolls who are paid to disrupt MOJ sites. That is their job, that is why they can stay up all night on forums....it is their job, what they get paid for. These are professional trolls. They have no axe to grind just disruption. They no doubt have done their homework and know who to upset and how to upset them. They know the vulnerabilities, they also know how to turn people against people. This is what I've been told and I believe we have been hit by someone like that.???
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there are trolls who are paid to disrupt MOJ sites. That is their job, that is why they can stay up all night on forums....it is their job, what they get paid for. These are professional trolls. They have no axe to grind just disruption. They no doubt have done their homework and know who to upset and how to upset them. They know the vulnerabilities, they also know how to turn people against people. This is what I've been told and I believe we have been hit by someone like that.???
It would explain why a certain person seemed to single out particular members - however, I think they were eventually hoisted by their own petard and became totally paranoid about everyone! But it didn't take a genius to work out that they weren't a genuine poster because they were always involved either directly or indirectly in any and every argument! Of course it was NEVER their fault! ;)
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Maggie did MAT tell you this; only I don't think anyone would get paid to troll.... but I think these people get a kick out of it...
Some trolls I've seen seem to have a target and know whay they are going after and what they hope to achive.. Havig said that; it would appear to back fire time and time again....
No Mat would never tell me anything and I have never had a conversation with mat. I have read tho that this goes on. I think oncesaid posted about it.
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They are still lingering Caroline R, so I think everyone should be on their guard. Having said that, I am also led to believe their actions are about to catch up with them.. ;) Mums the word... ;)
I really don't understand what they get out of it - but then I don't have that mindset. Hope you're right, they deserve everything they get!
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It would explain why a certain person seemed to single out particular members - however, I think they were eventually hoisted by their own petard and became totally paranoid about everyone! But it didn't take a genius to work out that they weren't a genuine poster because they were always involved either directly or indirectly in any and every argument! Of course it was NEVER their fault! ;)
No caroline...never their fault, they just chucked in the grenade, or lit the blue touch paper and then claimed abuse. Clever and convincing up to a point but some of us were aware of it.
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No caroline...never their fault, they just chucked in the grenade, or lit the blue touch paper and then claimed abuse. Clever and convincing up to a point but some of us were aware of it.
Yes we were Maggie! I guess the old saying is true "What goes around comes around"
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Yes we were Maggie! I guess the old saying is true "What goes around comes around"
;DMust say ....hope that doesnt come around again!! :o
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I think it's going to be several weeks, possibly longer. I believe investigations are about to commence.
I guess new members will get a hard time for a while LOL - Just in case :)
;DMust say ....hope that doesnt come around again!! :o
LOL - I thought the same thing after posting it :)
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Let's just say that all incriminating material will hopefully be retrieved and then will luck, the forum will go from strength to strength...
Here"s hoping steph...night allxx
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Let's just say that all incriminating material will hopefully be retrieved and then will luck, the forum will go from strength to strength...
Sounds good to me :) - See y'all tomorrow - night XX
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I imagine 'Mat' knew you would smell a rat Maggie... ;)
Hum - maybe Oncesaid would like to explain what they meant... Seems a bit OTT to me..
Yes, I thought that journalists or the police paying individuals to cause disruptions on miscarriage of justice public forums sounded a bit far fetched, but nothing would suprise me anymore due to the lengths that the press will go to for a story, or the depths that the police will go to to cover themselves and ensure that the finger points away from them.
Here is the post where I first mentioned it.
Quote from: OnceSaid on August 23, 2012, 02:10:PM
It would be tragic if this forum was to close down. As always it is the miscarriage of justice victim and their families, as well as their supporters that are the ones who will lose out, due to the trolls. This is what they do. Go from one moj forum to the next, causing disruption and playing one member off against another until no one can trust anyone.
If this was a craft forum or gardening forum it wouldn't matter as forums like that would recover as little damage would be done by the trolls but due to this forum and others being involved in miscarriages of justice the damage is so great.
I was told a long time ago that there is people who are paid to cause this type of disruption within the miscarriage of justice world, divide and conquer being their aim. The purpose being that if supporters and families are being kept busy with the trolls it is less time being spent on individual cases. Also to get everyone arguing with each other so that individuals will retreat, as the less people involved in moj, the better. Trolls also set people up with different scenarios hoping their target will fall for their plan, and before you know it the tabloids get a hold of it.
We all know who is behind it all, with his numerous usernames and ip addresses. He has tried with every moj forum on the internet. He has done on this form exactly what he tried to do on others, the only difference being that on this forum he was tolerated much more for a longer period of time, under his many different usernames.
To moderate this forum would be a full time job with the amount of trolls and troublemakers on it, the moderators tried their best but it became unmanageable lately and I dont think anyone can be blamed for that. It would be a very sad day if all the hard work on this site is destroyed due to John Lamberton and his hangers on.
Mike whatever you decide to you, I just want to say that you are worth a thousand times more than John Lamberton. I can't wait till the day he get his comeuppance.
Whatever you decide, you deserve respect and credit for everything you have done on this forum.
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What a brilliant and insightful post,Oncesaid. It goes to show the lengths these folk go to,to TRY and sway those who have the slightest doubt.
I for one remain sure and steadfast that Jeremy is innocent and no amount of swaying nor persuasion of any sort would make me think otherwise.
Mike has been a marvellous " ambassador " for this particular MOJ,,,and to be quite honest,I don't think things would have moved if it hadn't been for his work on this case.I admire him,and his sheer determination and it's a pity there weren't more like him. Those who've put the man down,,,,shame on you,,yet Mike has nothing to worry about on that score because it very likely goes over his head. It would mine too.
Keep up the good work,Mike,as what you've achieved will come to fruition sooner,rather than later.
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Hi lookout excellent post. Mike is tops and I have so much admiration and respect for him. Hows the knitting going :)
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Yes, I thought that journalists or the police paying individuals to cause disruptions on miscarriage of justice public forums sounded a bit far fetched, but nothing would suprise me anymore due to the lengths that the press will go to for a story, or the depths that the police will go to to cover themselves and ensure that the finger points away from them.
Here is the post where I first mentioned it.
Quote from: OnceSaid on August 23, 2012, 02:10:PM
It would be tragic if this forum was to close down. As always it is the miscarriage of justice victim and their families, as well as their supporters that are the ones who will lose out, due to the trolls. This is what they do. Go from one moj forum to the next, causing disruption and playing one member off against another until no one can trust anyone.
If this was a craft forum or gardening forum it wouldn't matter as forums like that would recover as little damage would be done by the trolls but due to this forum and others being involved in miscarriages of justice the damage is so great.
I was told a long time ago that there is people who are paid to cause this type of disruption within the miscarriage of justice world, divide and conquer being their aim. The purpose being that if supporters and families are being kept busy with the trolls it is less time being spent on individual cases. Also to get everyone arguing with each other so that individuals will retreat, as the less people involved in moj, the better. Trolls also set people up with different scenarios hoping their target will fall for their plan, and before you know it the tabloids get a hold of it.
We all know who is behind it all, with his numerous usernames and ip addresses. He has tried with every moj forum on the internet. He has done on this form exactly what he tried to do on others, the only difference being that on this forum he was tolerated much more for a longer period of time, under his many different usernames.
To moderate this forum would be a full time job with the amount of trolls and troublemakers on it, the moderators tried their best but it became unmanageable lately and I dont think anyone can be blamed for that. It would be a very sad day if all the hard work on this site is destroyed due to John Lamberton and his hangers on.
Mike whatever you decide to you, I just want to say that you are worth a thousand times more than John Lamberton. I can't wait till the day he get his comeuppance.
Whatever you decide, you deserve respect and credit for everything you have done on this forum.
I am convinced that sometimes this is true? In fact some go to so much trouble to disrupt various forums that it makes you think that either these people have a screw loose, or they have a financial incentive in what they do. I repeat what I said in the Jersey corruption thread. A cover-up can only happen from the top down. Those with influence control those who are in a weak position. Imagine if you will if a certain judge was being blackmailed? Perhaps because he has visited a Madam Whiplash for instance and he was threatened that if he didn't sum up in a certain way that various pictures would be publisized of him in a compromising position. That is how corruption can happen sometimes?
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I am convinced that sometimes this is true? In fact some go to so much trouble to disrupt various forums that it makes you think that either these people have a screw loose, or they have a financial incentive in what they do. I repeat what I said in the Jersey corruption thread. A cover-up can only happen from the top down. Those with influence control those who are in a weak position. Imagine if you will if a certain judge was being blackmailed? Perhaps because he has visited a Madam Whiplash for instance and he was threatened that if he didn't sum up in a certain way that various pictures would be publisized of him in a compromising position. That is how corruption can happen sometimes?
Hi Lugg :). I do find that post of Oncesaid so interesting and entirely believable. There appears to be no end to the devious behaviour of individuals and the state to control ordinary people who are seen to be a threat simply by asking questions and debating.
Excellent reply by yourself Lugg.
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Hi lookout excellent post. Mike is tops and I have so much admiration and respect for him. Hows the knitting going :)
Hi Susan,,well I've cast-on if that's what you mean,hahaha. In actual fact,it's like knitting dolls clothes,dead easy and quick,so I've managed a jacket,hat and boots.
Yes,Mike is unique.
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I am convinced that sometimes this is true? In fact some go to so much trouble to disrupt various forums that it makes you think that either these people have a screw loose, or they have a financial incentive in what they do. I repeat what I said in the Jersey corruption thread. A cover-up can only happen from the top down. Those with influence control those who are in a weak position. Imagine if you will if a certain judge was being blackmailed? Perhaps because he has visited a Madam Whiplash for instance and he was threatened that if he didn't sum up in a certain way that various pictures would be publisized of him in a compromising position. That is how corruption can happen sometimes?
What an excellent post, Lugg. Welcome to the forum.
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I am convinced that sometimes this is true? In fact some go to so much trouble to disrupt various forums that it makes you think that either these people have a screw loose, or they have a financial incentive in what they do. I repeat what I said in the Jersey corruption thread. A cover-up can only happen from the top down. Those with influence control those who are in a weak position. Imagine if you will if a certain judge was being blackmailed? Perhaps because he has visited a Madam Whiplash for instance and he was threatened that if he didn't sum up in a certain way that various pictures would be publisized of him in a compromising position. That is how corruption can happen sometimes?
These things obviously do happen and I agree that there is certainly something very sinister in the way the Jersey Scandal just disappeared from the limelight as quickly as it came. However, as far as this forum is concerned - I'm leaning towards the 'screw loose' idea! Trolling this type of forum 24/7 is just weird!
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What an excellent post, Lugg. Welcome to the forum.
Thank you for your welcome shonapugs. :)
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I am convinced that sometimes this is true? In fact some go to so much trouble to disrupt various forums that it makes you think that either these people have a screw loose, or they have a financial incentive in what they do. I repeat what I said in the Jersey corruption thread. A cover-up can only happen from the top down. Those with influence control those who are in a weak position. Imagine if you will if a certain judge was being blackmailed? Perhaps because he has visited a Madam Whiplash for instance and he was threatened that if he didn't sum up in a certain way that various pictures would be publisized of him in a compromising position. That is how corruption can happen sometimes?
I'll tell you who has been loyal,,,and that's Cynthia Payne. I bet she could have told a tale or two,and she could have demanded hefty sums I imagine,,,,including judges and politicians and those of a high status in life. It would appear that they are definitely the " oddest ". Cheeky beggars,then appearing in court all deadly serious. You'd cry if you couldn't laugh at the thought.
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I'll tell you who has been loyal,,,and that's Cynthia Payne. I bet she could have told a tale or two,and she could have demanded hefty sums I imagine,,,,including judges and politicians and those of a high status in life. It would appear that they are definitely the " oddest ". Cheeky beggars,then appearing in court all deadly serious. You'd cry if you couldn't laugh at the thought.
Lookout, all naughty boy need to have their bottoms smacked from time to time, but difficult to find a willing chastizer when you're a High Court Judge, so I imagine when they find someone dedicated to punishment they would be both grateful and loyal ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Lookout, all naughty boy need to have their bottoms smacked from time to time, but difficult to find a willing chastizer when you're a High Court Judge, so I imagine when they find someone dedicated to punishment they would be both grateful and loyal ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Yes,I'll say,April. Whip crack away.!
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Hi Lookout/april I think that would be a great job for our Patti naughty boys smacked bums sounds just up her street especially if they are wearing their wig :)
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Hi Lookout/april I think that would be a great job for our Patti naughty boys smacked bums sounds just up her street especially if they are wearing their wig :)
Hahahaha,she'll be pleased about that.
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Hi Lookout/april I think that would be a great job for our Patti naughty boys smacked bums sounds just up her street especially if they are wearing their wig :)
Ladies, if those naughty boys were grateful and loyal, methinks they may also be very GENEROUS!!! Maybe we should consider going into business ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Ladies, if those naughty boys were grateful and loyal, methinks they may also be very GENEROUS!!! Maybe we should consider going into business ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
We could tie them to Susie's pole :D :D :D :D :D
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Ladies, if those naughty boys were grateful and loyal, methinks they may also be very GENEROUS!!! Maybe we should consider going into business ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
April,,I'd be no good. I'd laugh.
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lookout I'm game for anything :)
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April,,I'd be no good. I'd laugh.
No sweat, lookout. All part of the punishment ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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lookout I'm game for anything :)
Yes,it would seem so,Susan,hahahaha. Right little dare devil.
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I have removed both posts. Sorry but take this else where please and, not in the public eye... :)
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No I did not!!
And never have!!
Now take that to your officer and see who's telling you porky's.
I have NEVER sent abusive messages to people....EVER......I went to the police about the person who was sending out the messages.........and I have her family members as witnesses!!
Not once have I been given a caution or anything.........EVER!!
Now take this to the supposed officer who cautioned me..............you won't be able to as there isn't one.
Therefore, you are a LIAR when you state you spoke to the officer concerned!!
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Please girls if you need to have a go then do it of the forum...otherwise I shall shout lol Pleeeeeeeeeze :)
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Please girls if you need to have a go then do it off the forum...otherwise I shall shout lol Pleeeeeeeeeze :)
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Each member can only speak as they find. This approach is fair enough? I think forum members will agree with this approach.
For my own part I would like to say that I have only found Aunt Agatha to be very pleasant, rational and informative. Personally I have never found Aunt Agatha to be anything other than this. My opinion is that she was driven from this site to post elsewhere, which I think was a mistake to do. I do not think AA should have joined up elsewhere. But she was subjected to very bad abuse on here, in my opinion.
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Each member can only speak as they find. This approach is fair enough? I think forum members will agree with this approach.
For my own part I would like to say that I have only found Aunt Agatha to be very pleasant, rational and informative. Personally I have never found Aunt Agatha to be anything other than this. My opinion is that she was driven from this site to post elsewhere, which I think was a mistake to do. I do not think AA should have joined up elsewhere. But she was subjected to very bad abuse on here, in my opinion.
I agree with you Roch and, from my part I don't wish to get involved, it is not my argument. I just feel for the other members who have to witness things like this...Thank You. :) :) :)
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Thank you Roch.
As for Woodward............go back and check your sources!!
Take this to her.....you are either misinformed.....or you continue to LIE!!
This is the last I will speak about it...............you're just not worth the trouble!!
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I've just screamed on Twitter it helps to do that sometimes.....it's better than banging your head on a brick wall and finishing up in casualty....All refreshed now. lol
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Roch did you see Aunt A post a PM on here? Was it you that removed it or Patti?
I have not removed any pms tonight... but I can confirm that previous pms sent by Aunt Agatha in good faith, were used against her maliciously.
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Roch I don't know what you are talking about?
Do you mean that Aunt A came here to settle a score tonight?
Why would she target me?
Why does everyone think I'm Jackie P?
Aunt A came here and totally derailed discussions Roch - now everyone's gone to be....
No, I do not believe that you are linked to the incident i am referring to Steph. Separate incident, from a while back.
I have removed a number of posts from this thread because I felt they were antagonistic and served no purpose to the forum
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Does anyone know who Janet (formally known as Takashi) is/was? MAT??
What makes you think that steph?
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It was this Maggie - probably completely random and wrong:
Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2012, 12:04:AM »Quote Quote from: Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi) on June 15, 2012, 11:58:PM
Mike if you and Patti could conduct your love affair in private that would be good. So you are in Scotland. What for? Stop the cat and mouse shit Mike. All credible posters on this site are sick and tired of it. Just tell us what you are there for, who you are meeting and why WE SHOULD GIVE A FUCK!
Sorry, I find this really rude to mike and really unacceptable. Unless you are totally stupid, Janet(known as Takeshi) why?? this is Mike's forum.
hang on - i'll post a link:
I remember being on one night when she/he came on and was totally abusive. I jus tthought she was p*****d, of course according to some people I am always pilled up or p****d, so am probably not the best person to judge....seriously if anyone had any idea how rediculous that accusation is :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Takeshi was based not a million miles from me. I'm pretty sure she was not linked to anyone else. Posted from a similar perspective as TonyB. Down the middle but erring on the side of innocence. (Re Bamber).
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Mike takes a mean photo. :) :) :)
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Takeshi was based not a million miles from me. I'm pretty sure she was not linked to anyone else. Posted from a similar perspective as TonyB. Down the middle but erring on the side of innocence. (Re Bamber).
You know that Takeshi isn't Mat, and I am telling you that I am not GI. I suppose this will get deleted, but it's time that certain people played fair on here.
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You know that Takeshi isn't Mat, and I am telling you that I am not GI. I suppose this will get deleted, but it's time that certain people played fair on here.
I don't know who GI is. If you had posts deleted earlier today, it might have been because they were abusive. I think at least four members have had posts moderated or removed today.
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Who is MAT Shona?
I have removed my previous post - please read back.
Oh good grief. Why am I humouring you?
As far as I know, and I have NO reason to believe otherwise, Mat is exactly who he says he is. A young man with a son called Toby, some knowledge of the legal system, and a way of posting his opinions without pissing too many people off, and being quite endearing. No agenda. Reminds me of a labrador puppy.
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Takeshi was based not a million miles from me. I'm pretty sure she was not linked to anyone else. Posted from a similar perspective as TonyB. Down the middle but erring on the side of innocence. (Re Bamber).
Tonyb did change his mind to guilty, Roch. Has he changed it back?
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Well then you look like you are about to be in for a shock ;D
I doubt it. Unless you're going to canter up my drive on a pink unicorn and give me a big girly kiss on my bottom.
Please don't.
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Tonyb did change his mind to guilty, Roch. Has he changed it back?
I'm not sure what his current stance is but I assumed he was about 60/40 in JB's favour, despite his oft expressed frustrations. I could be wrong though.
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I'm not sure what his current stance is but I assumed he was about 60/40 in JB's favour, despite his oft expressed frustrations. I could be wrong though.
He deff went guilty.
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Shona you have now got your own thread for all this...
Post on there, then, and I'll catch you up. I am totally hopeless at threads etc., and I can't post links, do screen shots, or abuse Jackie and call you a "Thai Bride." More proof that I'm not anyone else.
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He deff went guilty.
I'll believe it when I see it ;)
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I'll believe it when I see it ;)
Ok ill find the post. ;)
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Why should we bail? We havent done anything wrong.
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Don't start Shona please......
Jackie P has a cracking sense of humour btw - something else her and I have in common.
Shona have you and Andrea bailed? Not that I can blame you of course; the sh*t is about to hit the preverbial fan, apparently.... ;D ;D
Isn't it great when the truth starts coming to the surface - like oil coming to the surface in water..... ;D
Bailed? I don't know what you mean. And any shit hitting a forum fan probably won't be to scary.
I've just signed into the red forum, I only have one computer and I'm crap on that, so if GI posts again, you will know it's not me.
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@Maggie - we are gonna need a mini bus to the beach at this rate... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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The thing with Lamberton Shona is, his middle name should have been 'supergrass' - you see he never liked what you were doing when you were posting as LacyC but it was all a game to him and you were another of his pawns.
He tolerated it because it gave him a form of control but then you started posting using even more guest names and it all started getting really over the top; didn't it?
You came here tonight complaining about your posts being deleted... to pacify you I removed my post as a guesture of goodwill.
Lamberton never wanted anyone to upset you - but I couldn't stand your bullying toward others a moment longer Shona....
Btw Shona, do I still qualify as the unconsumated wife, even though Si & I got it on in the disabled toilet, next to he first aid room, at EDF energy? ;D
Thank you so much for sharing that.
a) I have never called you the unconsumated wife. I didn't know that.
b) Much as unbridled sex in a disabled toilet must be mind-blowing, I prefer the first time with my old man. A big bouncy bed, champers, rose petals, a plate of oysters and a big round of applause. And a fag afterwards.
I'm off now. You can have this forum for yourself. Everyone I care about on here knows what's going on. Enjoy.
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That came from the mini bus driver btw ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Who's driving the minibus by the way? I have forgotten and it's a long way to where I suggested. I think down your way may be better and as you know the way....well?? ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D
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I think there's also talk about finding a bigger beach!!! Shame it's raining, the blazing hot sun would have been perfect. 8) ;D 8) ;D 8) ;D
I can't even tell you what the bus driver has suggested... but it's got nothing to do with stopping en route; it's about what's also going to be packed in the picnic hamper...
;D ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) 8) 8)
The beaches of suffolk are huge and open steph, there's always the fear of landslides, especially in the wet weather.........makes you think. ;D
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Yes, and the shingle ;D - we could always practive 'skimming' the stones, on the beach of course... ;) ;D
Massive undercurrent on those beaches and with all that shingle and stones it's all a bit nasty I believe.......night steph ;D