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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: Patti on September 12, 2012, 10:52:AM

Title: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: Patti on September 12, 2012, 10:52:AM
http://jeremybamber.blogspot.co.uk/

Should Jeremy defend himself from Sutton jail? Please read!
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: curiousessex on September 12, 2012, 11:16:AM
Jeremy has been defending his position since 1985.

He has defended himself through the criminal trial, civil court action, appeal courts, CCRC, IPCC, complaints procedures etc.

So yes.... Jeremy is already defending himself from prison.

Currently, given his convictions, where else should he be defending himself from?
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: Neil on September 12, 2012, 11:28:AM
http://jeremybamber.blogspot.co.uk/

Should Jeremy defend himself from Sutton jail? Please read!
It would certainly be very interesting but I can't see them allowing it.  Prisoners do currently have the opportunity to challange their convictions, a system already exists. 
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: lookout on September 12, 2012, 11:39:AM
http://jeremybamber.blogspot.co.uk/

Should Jeremy defend himself from Sutton jail? Please read!

Hi Patti,I actually read it a couple of days ago and made some notes on here,but it must have fallen on deaf ears/blind eyes.

But I did make more notes on how the media " get it wrong " and feed the public with what they believe is the truth.

According to the Sun,Sheila was slumped 0n the floor with the rifle beside her. Two weeks later,the Sun added," .22 automatic weapon found near the bodies of the two women ( Sheila and June ) "

The Daily Mirror also said the rifle was besides Sheilas' body. They repeated this in their later edition " .22 rifle found by Sheilas' body."

The Evening News Gazette had the rifle laying between Sheila and the body of her mother,June.  A later edition reported," All had been shot with a .22 automatic rifle which was near to Sheilas' body."

The Maldon and Burnham Evening Standard said that" June and Sheila were on the bedroom floor with the rifle laying between them."

The East Anglian Daily Times reported " the rifle was found between Sheila and June."

The Star said " family shot by .22 rifle.Gun laying near Sheilas' body."
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: lookout on September 12, 2012, 11:56:AM
So how did that rifle find its way on top of Sheilas' body.? ( looking as though it had been placed there for effect.? ) Questionable,eh.?
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: Patti on September 12, 2012, 12:51:PM
Jeremy has been defending his position since 1985.

He has defended himself through the criminal trial, civil court action, appeal courts, CCRC, IPCC, complaints procedures etc.

So yes.... Jeremy is already defending himself from prison.

Currently, given his convictions, where else should he be defending himself from?

Curious did you read the link? I know what you are saying. Maybe I have not made myself clear in what I was asking.....Should he a video link be shared with an audience so that JB can justify why he is innocent from prison? Is this acceptable or not, given the JR that is in place?  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: -Harters- on September 12, 2012, 01:10:PM
Curious did you read the link? I know what you are saying. Maybe I have not made myself clear in what I was asking.....Should he a video link be shared with an audience so that JB can justify why he is innocent from prison? Is this acceptable or not, given the JR that is in place?  :) :) :) :)
Like an interview you mean?
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: Patti on September 12, 2012, 01:39:PM
Like an interview you mean?

Yes Hartley a televised interview  :-\
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: -Harters- on September 12, 2012, 01:52:PM
Yes Hartley a televised interview  :-\

Personally I think he should use the legal system just like everybody else has to, but hasn't he already given interviews in the past, just maybe not televised ones?
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: gringo on September 12, 2012, 02:47:PM
Curious did you read the link? I know what you are saying. Maybe I have not made myself clear in what I was asking.....Should he a video link be shared with an audience so that JB can justify why he is innocent from prison? Is this acceptable or not, given the JR that is in place?  :) :) :) :)
Afternoon Patti , it would be interesting to see but I would be surprised if it is allowed .
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: guest154 on September 12, 2012, 03:54:PM
I'm amused by this. He thinks he is going to be allowed? Who is advising this man???

Look at his wording.

He starts off :
"we are currently going through the process of applying for permission"

Then
"there is absolutely no question that the interview will not go ahead"


Alright Bamber, alright.  ::)
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: -Harters- on September 12, 2012, 04:14:PM
I'm amused by this. He thinks he is going to be allowed? Who is advising this man???

Look at his wording.

He starts off :
"we are currently going through the process of applying for permission"

Then
"there is absolutely no question that the interview will not go ahead"


Alright Bamber, alright.  ::)

I can't remember which interview this referred to, maybe it was on radio?
http://www.priti4witham.com/content/priti-patel-calls-parliamentary-debate-prisoners-access-media
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: mertol22 on September 12, 2012, 10:52:PM
Personally I think he should use the legal system just like everybody else has to, but hasn't he already given interviews in the past, just maybe not televised ones?
Our legal system is a shambles , 2012 and judges wearing stupid silly wigs pure insanity, such a televised approach may or not help, i dont see why not , it would be one step out of the jurasic system we currently have.
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: guest154 on September 12, 2012, 10:56:PM
Our legal system is a shambles


The vast majority would disagree with you, it works - it isn't perfect but NO legal system in the world is perfect.

i dont see why not , it would be one step out of the jurasic system we currently have.

Because a convicted killer shouldn't be allowed to appear on television when the families are trying to move on with their lives, it is torment.
Bamber should go through the correct procedures like everyone else, he should stop looking for special treatment and should for his own sake - keep quiet whilst his legal team or working on his behalf.
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: mertol22 on September 12, 2012, 11:07:PM
The vast majority would disagree with you, it works - it isn't perfect but NO legal system in the world is perfect.

Because a convicted killer shouldn't be allowed to appear on television when the families are trying to move on with their lives, it is torment.
Bamber should go through the correct procedures like everyone else, he should stop looking for special treatment and should for his own sake - keep quiet whilst his legal team or working on his behalf.
Why is it not perfect , lawyers do not work for the minimum wage
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: -Harters- on September 12, 2012, 11:21:PM
Why is it not perfect , lawyers do not work for the minimum wage
No sometimes they work pro-bono.
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: -Harters- on September 12, 2012, 11:22:PM
No sometimes they work pro-bono.
i.e. for the public good.  ;)
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: mertol22 on September 12, 2012, 11:27:PM
i.e. for the public good.  ;)
Like the recent trash judge who praised a burglar for having courage ? what next medal of bravery ?
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: guest154 on September 12, 2012, 11:29:PM
Like the recent trash judge who praised a burglar for having courage ? what next medal of bravery ?

He wasn't praising, I'm sure you didn't believe that's what he was saying when you read the FULL story.
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: -Harters- on September 12, 2012, 11:32:PM
I don't understand why people don't understand me sometimes.  :-\

To be perfectly honest I don't even think he should be allowed his various websites, but that's an argument for another day.
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: guest154 on September 12, 2012, 11:34:PM


To be perfectly honest I don't even think he should be allowed his various websites, but that's an argument for another day.

I agree completely. The fact that people in prisons, rapists, child killers, murderers, fraudsters etc etc are allowed internet access......is something that needs to be stopped IMO.
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: mertol22 on September 12, 2012, 11:34:PM
He wasn't praising, I'm sure you didn't believe that's what he was saying when you read the FULL story.
i dont believe our system works jeremy bamber would have nothing to loose if he is allowed such a presentation, let people see make up their own mind, it could be his last real chance anyway i guess thats why he may wish it.
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: guest154 on September 12, 2012, 11:36:PM
i dont believe our system works jeremy bamber would have nothing to loose if he is allowed such a presentation, let people see make up their own mind, it could be his last real chance anyway i guess thats why he may wish it.

Jeremy's 'last real chance' should be decided through legal departments, it should be decided through submissions and the courts - not in a television interview.
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: mertol22 on September 12, 2012, 11:37:PM
I don't understand why people don't understand me sometimes.  :-\

To be perfectly honest I don't even think he should be allowed his various websites, but that's an argument for another day.
we are told we live in a free society i think its called the internet , what other purpose does it serve other than not to exist at all the invention could have easily have been shelved just like making nuclear weapons .
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: -Harters- on September 12, 2012, 11:40:PM
Jeremy's 'last real chance' should be decided through legal departments, it should be decided through submissions and the courts - not in a television interview.

That has and will always be the case, all of this support under the guise of obtaining public awareness is simply boosting his ego, it has no direct effect on his case. Although I suppose it does aid donations and potential representation, but that doesn't affect anybody else.
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: -Harters- on September 12, 2012, 11:41:PM
we are told we live in a free society i think its called the internet , what other purpose does it serve other than not to exist at all the invention could have easily have been shelved just like making nuclear weapons .

You and I are very different in many many ways.
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: mertol22 on September 12, 2012, 11:45:PM
Jeremy's 'last real chance' should be decided through legal departments, it should be decided through submissions and the courts - not in a television interview.
This method is not working , not for him at least  we waste millions of pounds in weapon research every year trying to find smarter ways to destroy people a tv presentation is not going to break the bank is it.
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: mertol22 on September 12, 2012, 11:47:PM
You and I are very different in many many ways.
That much is certain
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: guest154 on September 12, 2012, 11:47:PM
This method is not working , not for him at least 

So because he can not LEGALLY prove in COURT he is INNOCENT......he hsould be allowed to try and convince the general public rather than be seen as guilty?
I'm not sure what you've been smoking but feel free to pass it over!  ;D
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: -Harters- on September 12, 2012, 11:51:PM
This method is not working , not for him at least  we waste millions of pounds in weapon research every year trying to find smarter ways to destroy people a tv presentation is not going to break the bank is it.

Why not let him host the lottery and just be done with it?
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: mertol22 on September 12, 2012, 11:56:PM
So because he can not LEGALLY prove in COURT he is INNOCENT......he hsould be allowed to try and convince the general public rather than be seen as guilty?
I'm not sure what you've been smoking but feel free to pass it over!  ;D
The importance of hearing what someone says has no price exept 2 world wars and millions of people dead to make such a act happan  at all, any such tv appearence would have to be granted and determined what he can say, since we dont know what would be said its not really possible to guess , i feel it would be more of an appeal of sorts for someone to come forward, other than pre recorded dvd vhs, i no longer watch tv but millions do, even today people who know something about the case will be outnumbered heavily by those who have never heard of WHF and may never will.
Title: Re: Should Jeremy defend himself from prison?
Post by: mertol22 on September 13, 2012, 12:02:AM
This is an old case and getting older for now its also a closed one as far as the law goes, the passage of time will be at his door now so while he is within reason fit able to move speak and write he has to do something , lucky him he is not in the blue dolphin jail in the Russian Federation , the highway to hell.