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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: vidvic on September 05, 2012, 04:50:PM
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Mike. Please explain where there is a 'low wall' capable of seeing the master bedroom window?
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=7292;image
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To the left of the front door.
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There is no wall to the left of the front door capable of viewing the window from.
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There is if you view the archive plans/pics.
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There is if you view the archive plans/pics.
Can you direct me?
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Can anyone direct me to a plan of WHF showing this wall?
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Can anyone direct me to a plan of WHF showing this wall?
I've never seen one. I think people mix this up with the wall on the south side of the yard.
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xxxx , open your eyes and find it yourself...
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xxxxx off, open your eyes and find it yourself...
Mike?????????? Please don't get angry. :) :) :)
Guy's all the photo's are in the archives, it takes two minutes to look.....If you read the statements there is a wall.....not sure my self on which side this is....
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Can you direct me?
Just look through archives,for the plan,it's there.
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Mike?????????? Please don't get angry. :) :) :)
Guy's all the photo's are in the archives, it takes two minutes to look.....If you read the statements there is a wall.....not sure my self on which side this is....
There is a curved wall on part of the southern boundary of the yard, I think that one is mentioned in a couple of the raid team statements. You can't see the main bedroom window from that wall though, cos it's round the corner. There doesn't appear to be any other wall in the archive pictures.
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There is a curved wall on part of the southern boundary of the yard, I think that one is mentioned in a couple of the raid team statements. You can't see the main bedroom window from that wall though, cos it's round the corner. There doesn't appear to be any other wall in the archive pictures.
I thought there was a wall in front of the house? I have't looked so therefore unable to comment. I will take a look... 8) 8) 8)
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There is a curved wall on part of the southern boundary of the yard, I think that one is mentioned in a couple of the raid team statements. You can't see the main bedroom window from that wall though, cos it's round the corner. There doesn't appear to be any other wall in the archive pictures.
Keep looking you'll find the one in question eventually, if you really want to find it...
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I thought there was a wall in front of the house? I have't looked so therefore unable to comment. I will take a look... 8) 8) 8)
I can only see a hedge to the front..
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I can only see a hedge to the front..
you obviously don't want to find or see it...
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you obviously don't want to find or see it...
You could always post a picture of it...
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I can only see a hedge to the front..
I see 3 walls and a broken down wall.
One wall is on the White/red side, from this wall you have a view of the main bedroom on the red side and box room on the white side.
There is a wall attached to house at the white side which curves round and comes to a sudden end, which surrounds a small garden.
There is another wall which approx 30 meters back from the kitchen on the white side, to the back of that appears to be a broken down wall...... :) :) :) :)
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You could always post a picture of it...
Bridget you are getting lazy lol :) :) :) :)
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I see 3 walls and a broken down wall.
One wall is on the White/red side, from this wall you have a view of the main bedroom on the red side and box room on the white side.
There is a wall attached to house at the white side which curves round and comes to a sudden end, which surrounds a small garden.
There is another wall which approx 30 meters back from the kitchen on the white side, to the back of that appears to be a broken down wall...... :) :) :) :)
Which picture is that on?
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Which picture is that on?
It's the 8th picture down in the archives. Not sure if this is the one everyone is looking for....it took me a few minutes.....Wear the old ones out first..lol :) :) :) :)
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It's the 8th picture down in the archives. Not sure if this is the one everyone is looking for....it took me a few minutes.....Wear the old ones out first..lol :) :) :) :)
This is the 8th picture down:
(http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=4432;image)
Where is the wall?
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This is the 8th picture down:
(http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=4432;image)
Where is the wall?
Its to the left of the picture as I see it.....I'm just looking for walls, if you can't see it???????????
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Its to the left of the picture as I see it.....I'm just looking for walls, if you can't see it???????????
Yes I see a wall to the left, but that's the curved wall which is actually round the corner. You can't see the main bedroom window from that wall.
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Yes I see a wall to the left, but that's the curved wall which is actually round the corner. You can't see the main bedroom window from that wall.
Yes you can if you crane your neck.
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Yes you can if you crane your neck.
Only if you're a giraffe, and even then, probably not.
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Yes I see a wall to the left, but that's the curved wall which is actually round the corner. You can't see the main bedroom window from that wall.
No it's not the curved wall at all. If you look the curved wall on the white side ends in view. It does not carry on to the white side.
The wall you see in that picture is about 10ft past the house on the red side....of course you could see the main bedroom from that wall if you stood up... :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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Only if you're a giraffe, and even then, probably not.
There is a white gate attached to it at shoulders height....Btw, Lookout is quite tall lololol
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No it's not the curved wall at all. If you look the curved wall on the white side ends in view. It does not carry on to the white side.
The wall you see in that picture is about 10ft past the house on the red side....of course you could see the main bedroom from that wall if you stood up... :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
It is the curved wall. Here is another view of it.:
(http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=4063;image)
In the first picture I posted you're looking past the corner of the house at it.
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It is the curved wall. Here is another view of it.:
(http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=4063;image)
In the first picture I posted you're looking past the corner of the house at it.
That is not the same wall that appears in the frontal shot of the house Bridget....I don't understand how you can't see that? The wall at appears at the front of the house looks straight to me....1-0 hahahaha
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That is not the same wall that appears in the frontal shot of the house Bridget....I don't understand how you can't see that? The wall at appears at the front of the house looks straight to me....1-0 hahahaha
It would look straight wouldn't it, from that angle.
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It would look straight wouldn't it, from that angle.
Yes it would, because it is not a curved wall. The curved wall is at the white side of the house....coming from the house its self and beyond that wall is a small garden. The wall then comes to a halt. It has no gate on it like the one that runs past the house on the red side.... ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Yes it would, because it is not a curved wall. The curved wall is at the white side of the house....coming from the house its self and beyond that wall is a small garden. The wall then comes to a halt. It has no gate on it like the one that runs past the house on the red side.... ;) ;) ;) ;)
I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only one who lives in a 3D world, are you seriously telling me that you can't see that that's the curved wall protruding around the corner of the building, or are you winding me up? ???
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Where is it in this photo?
(http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=4065;image)
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Where is it in this photo?
(http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=4065;image)
Well, I don't know what date each photo was taken do I? Alls I was doing is taking a quick look to see if I could see any walls, because you didn't look and neither did anyone else....I have been at work all day, I work dam hard.....I am not on here all day. I come in at the end of the day, read a few posts, look for some walls and then I am wrong....you put the picture up, not me....I made a comment that there was a wall there and I don't need to wear 3D glasses, the wall on the photo was straight....not curved, then you show me another photo with no wall there at all.......Then ask me why there isn't a wall there....How the heck do I know? Maybe a view at the plans at the council will help....I don't even know why we are looking for a wall......Beem me up someone!!!!! :-X :-X :-X :-X
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Well, I don't know what date each photo was taken do I? Alls I was doing is taking a quick look to see if I could see any walls, because you didn't look and neither did anyone else....I have been at work all day, I work dam hard.....I am not on here all day. I come in at the end of the day, read a few posts, look for some walls and then I am wrong....you put the picture up, not me....I made a comment that there was a wall there and I don't need to wear 3D glasses, the wall on the photo was straight....not curved, then you show me another photo with no wall there at all.......Then ask me why there isn't a wall there....How the heck do I know? Maybe a view at the plans at the council will help....I don't even know why we are looking for a wall......Beem me up someone!!!!! :-X :-X :-X :-X
I did look, and couldn't see a wall from which you could see that window, which was why I asked!
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When Jeremy described to me the sighting of the person inside the main bedroom, I was not sure which small wall he had referred to, this was because I had never been to whf, by that stage, and I had to wait until my release in July 1990, before I got chance to visit the farmhouse, at which point I was able to identify three walls which could fit into the scenario talked about by Jeremy :-
(1) - A WALL TO THE LEFT OF THE BUILDING
(2) - A circular wall around a flower bed on the front lawn
(3) :- A wall to the right of the front face of the farmhousr
If stood at (1) -you could see up and into the main befroom window. If stood at (2) you could see a full view of the main bedroom window, If stood at (3) you would be able to see a person on the far side of the window, either far left from the vantage point of being outside facing the front of the dwelling...
So, I have pointed you all in the general direction of three walls that fit in with his account...
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Well, I don't know what date each photo was taken do I? Alls I was doing is taking a quick look to see if I could see any walls, because you didn't look and neither did anyone else....I have been at work all day, I work dam hard.....I am not on here all day. I come in at the end of the day, read a few posts, look for some walls and then I am wrong....you put the picture up, not me....I made a comment that there was a wall there and I don't need to wear 3D glasses, the wall on the photo was straight....not curved, then you show me another photo with no wall there at all.......Then ask me why there isn't a wall there....How the heck do I know? Maybe a view at the plans at the council will help....I don't even know why we are looking for a wall......Beem me up someone!!!!! :-X :-X :-X :-X
Captain Kirk , we are on reserve power as it is i can only beam one up at a time , i need more power Scotty more power.
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I did look, and couldn't see a wall from which you could see that window, which was why I asked!
I've just passed out and will be laid on the dog for some while......I will come round later lol
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Its to the left of the picture as I see it.....I'm just looking for walls, if you can't see it???????????
Hi Patti,I think you are right about the wall with the gate if the wall carries on beyond the gate well surely that's your wall? The curved wall at the back seems to end quite soon as it is falling down?...imo
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Hi Patti, if the wall carries on beyond the gate well surely that's your wall? The curved wall at the back seems to end quite soon as it is falling down?...imo
If I recall the plan Hartley posted correctly, the gate faces south, the same way as the front of the house. It is at right angles to the wall at that point and I think to the other side of it there is an outbuilding. Vic will know.
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When Jeremy described to me the sighting of the person inside the main bedroom, I was not sure which small wall he had referred to, this was because I had nver been to whf, by that stage, and I had to wait until my release in July 1990, before I got chance to visit the farmhouse, at which point I was abke to identify three walls which could fit into the scenario talked about by Jeremy :-
(1) - A WALL TO THE LEFT OF THE BUILDING
(2) - A circular wall aound a flower bed on the front lawn
(3) :- A wall to the right of the front face of the farmhousr
If stood at (1) -you could see up and into the main befroom window. If stood at (2) you coulf dee a full view of the main bedroom window, If stood at (3) you woyld be able to see a person on the far side of the window, either far left from the vantage point of being outside facing the front of the dwelling...
So, I have pointed you all in the general direction of three walls that fit in with his account...
No Mike, if you stood at the curved wall on the white side you would see the box room between the twins room and the main bedroom, no main bedroom windows are visible, it is bricked over on that side. You can't see the main bedroom window from the curved wall......This is what I have doubted all along......I don't like to question Jeremy, because he knew the lay out of the house more than any of us on here......But when Mayall sees movement in the window i am inclined to think it was the box room window where Jeap's sees the rifle and they get behind the wall....which is on the white side....It looks like the wall to the left hand side was built after the tragedy's.....Or was knocked down after.....
If Mayall sees movement in the main bedroom and Bews says it was reflection from the moonlight, then I question that, because according to Mildenhall the light was on in the main bedroom, which makes it impossible to have the moon reflecting on it.... :) :) :) :)
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Stop farting about makung up nondense excuses, I have told you where the three walls are/were, and if you can't find and identify the ones I Am speaking about you didn't really ought to be pretending to look for something you clearly don"t intend to find or identify...
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Captain Kirk , we are on reserve power as it is i can only beam one up at a time , i need more power Scotty more power.
Lol..................................Ye shall have more, me thinks. While you are at beam Bridget up, but her on a different planet from me, till the morning....hahahahahaha I love her really. But all she does is shouts at me....Ha! :) :) :) :)
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Because people are deliberately acting stupid trying to make out they can't see these three walls, I am locking the thread, and will remove it altogether...
Stop taking the piss...
You need to be looking in these three general aress, failing that, make an appointment at spec savers, you'll probably need yihr eyes testing...