Jeremy Bamber Forum
OFF TOPIC => General => Topic started by: Patti on September 02, 2012, 03:46:PM
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I love Sunday afternoons, bring back the old black and white films please............. :) :) :)
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Yes, I love Sundays! :D
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Yes, I love Sundays! :D
I have a new book to read Mat it's called "The Cry From Street to Street" by Hilary Bailey. It's all about the life of Mary Kelly who returns to London in 1888 to find her two sisters. She gets caught up in the web of prostitution and was a Ripper victim....But she was wealthy apparently.... :) :) :) :)
Do you love to relax on Sunday's mat? I don't watch television ever......I don't know why I bother with a licence.... :) :) :)
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I have a new book to read Mat it's called "The Cry From Street to Street" by Hilary Bailey. It's all about the life of Mary Kelly who returns to London in 1888 to find her two sisters. She gets caught up in the web of prostitution and was a Ripper victim....But she was wealthy apparently.... :) :) :) :)
Do you love to relax on Sunday's mat? I don't watch television ever......I don't know why I bother with a licence.... :) :) :)
Sounds like a good book, strange that you are reading that actually because I am currently reading Patricia Cornwells "Portrait of a Killer" Jack the Ripper - I love the Ripper case, very fascinating. I did a tour of the crime scenes at midnight on halloween many years ago, creepy stuff!
I love to relax on Sundays yeah but also have to have a Sunday roast! ;D
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Sounds like a good book, strange that you are reading that actually because I am currently reading Patricia Cornwells "Portrait of a Killer" Jack the Ripper - I love the Ripper case, very fascinating. I did a tour of the crime scenes at midnight on halloween many years ago, creepy stuff!
I love to relax on Sundays yeah but also have to have a Sunday roast! ;D
Weird I have just emailed a friend about the Ripper walks...I love the case too. Any idea who the Ripper
might have been? I dare bet it is the most eerie of places to walk through at night time. Let me know if the book is any good....I'll do the same with this one I am about to read.
Not had a roast today Mat, son went out to a Toby Carvery with friends....So all I have had is a cheese
sandwich.....There was a time a Sunday dinner was important to me, but not any more... :) :) :) :)
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Weird I have just emailed a friend about the Ripper walks...I love the case too. Any idea who the Ripper
might have been? I dare bet it is the most eerie of places to walk through at night time. Let me know if the book is any good....I'll do the same with this one I am about to read.
Not had a roast today Mat, son went out to a Toby Carvery with friends....So all I have had is a cheese
sandwich.....There was a time a Sunday dinner was important to me, but not any more... :) :) :) :)
So far the book is good, it is very detailed, which I love. Patricia names her suspect.
I have no idea who the Ripper was, everytime I watch a new show or read a new book about the criems they seem to have a new suspect, and they all seem very plausible. (although I've never bought into the ripper being a member of the royal family)
The walk was creepy, the old man that walked us around the streets was very, very knowledgable and was having question after question fired at hime and answered them all with great detail and enthusiasm.
He gave us a warning at the start of the tour, that when the tour was over he was going to 'dissappear the way godo old Jack had done" which didn't make much sense at the time - but after like two hours of walking around London, being shown where the houses were, where the murder spots were.. he said something like "and then just as quickly as he started, Jack stopped, no more killings, no more letters, nothing was heard from him again.......he just dissappeared and became a legend that no one will ever truly crack!" ....then he shows us around the corner to the last murder spot.. and the old man dissappeared..there ust have been a gate or some steps or something haha......but it was creepy as hell!
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So far the book is good, it is very detailed, which I love. Patricia names her suspect.
I have no idea who the Ripper was, everytime I watch a new show or read a new book about the criems they seem to have a new suspect, and they all seem very plausible. (although I've never bought into the ripper being a member of the royal family)
The walk was creepy, the old man that walked us around the streets was very, very knowledgable and was having question after question fired at hime and answered them all with great detail and enthusiasm.
He gave us a warning at the start of the tour, that when the tour was over he was going to 'dissappear the way godo old Jack had done" which didn't make much sense at the time - but after like two hours of walking around London, being shown where the houses were, where the murder spots were.. he said something like "and then just as quickly as he started, Jack stopped, no more killings, no more letters, nothing was heard from him again.......he just dissappeared and became a legend that no one will ever truly crack!" ....then he shows us around the corner to the last murder spot.. and the old man dissappeared..there ust have been a gate or some steps or something haha......but it was creepy as hell!
Hahahaha I bet that caused a stir...
Who does Pat say the Ripper is? I discount Albert....too. He was engaged to be married at the time, although that has no relevance at all...But he was introduced later on the 1900's as being a suspect...if memory serves me correct.....There is a Ripper case file available on the net.....Maybe one dark evening, we will have a discussion about it......
I did notice something of a patten with their deaths.....I will leave you with that and see if you spot it....lol :) :) :) :)
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Walter Sickert.
Sickert took a keen interest in the crimes of Jack the Ripper and believed he had lodged in a room used by the infamous serial killer. He had been told this by his landlady, who suspected a previous lodger. Sickert did a painting of the room and titled it "Jack the Ripper's Bedroom." It shows a dark, melancholy room with most details obscured. This painting now resides in the Manchester City Art Gallery in Manchester.
In 2002, crime novelist Patricia Cornwell, in Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper—Case Closed, maintained that Sickert was Jack the Ripper.A psychological motivation for Sickert was said to be a congenital anomaly of his penis. Cornwell purchased 31 of Sickert's paintings, and some persons in the arts world have said that she destroyed one of them in a search for Sickert's DNA, but Cornwell denies having done this. Cornwell claimed she was able to scientifically prove that the DNA on a letter attributed to the Ripper and on a letter written by Sickert belong to only one percent of the population.
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Walter Sickert.
Sickert took a keen interest in the crimes of Jack the Ripper and believed he had lodged in a room used by the infamous serial killer. He had been told this by his landlady, who suspected a previous lodger. Sickert did a painting of the room and titled it "Jack the Ripper's Bedroom." It shows a dark, melancholy room with most details obscured. This painting now resides in the Manchester City Art Gallery in Manchester.
In 2002, crime novelist Patricia Cornwell, in Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper—Case Closed, maintained that Sickert was Jack the Ripper.A psychological motivation for Sickert was said to be a congenital anomaly of his penis. Cornwell purchased 31 of Sickert's paintings, and some persons in the arts world have said that she destroyed one of them in a search for Sickert's DNA, but Cornwell denies having done this. Cornwell claimed she was able to scientifically prove that the DNA on a letter attributed to the Ripper and on a letter written by Sickert belong to only one percent of the population.
I'd put my money on Sickert, too.
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I have a new book to read Mat it's called "The Cry From Street to Street" by Hilary Bailey. It's all about the life of Mary Kelly who returns to London in 1888 to find her two sisters. She gets caught up in the web of prostitution and was a Ripper victim....But she was wealthy apparently.... :) :) :) :)
Do you love to relax on Sunday's mat? I don't watch television ever......I don't know why I bother with a licence.... :) :) :)
Saw books this morning patti at a local car boot sale lots of em , you cant beat a tea biscuit or two and watching bw films , Night of the hunter comes to mind, night of the demon, or dead of night, ore night of the eagle , when dark and raining outside even better.
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Walter Sickert.
Sickert took a keen interest in the crimes of Jack the Ripper and believed he had lodged in a room used by the infamous serial killer. He had been told this by his landlady, who suspected a previous lodger. Sickert did a painting of the room and titled it "Jack the Ripper's Bedroom." It shows a dark, melancholy room with most details obscured. This painting now resides in the Manchester City Art Gallery in Manchester.
In 2002, crime novelist Patricia Cornwell, in Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper—Case Closed, maintained that Sickert was Jack the Ripper.A psychological motivation for Sickert was said to be a congenital anomaly of his penis. Cornwell purchased 31 of Sickert's paintings, and some persons in the arts world have said that she destroyed one of them in a search for Sickert's DNA, but Cornwell denies having done this. Cornwell claimed she was able to scientifically prove that the DNA on a letter attributed to the Ripper and on a letter written by Sickert belong to only one percent of the population.
Its all very interesting mat. Can you remember a few years ago the police tried to get DNA from a shawl that belonged to one of the victims? Sadly, even with today's advanced technology is was unsuccessful.
I haven't heard of him...so now I will have to google him...lol
Mat check the dates of the murders, they are significant....and to me they form a patten.
Interestingly enough I have a relative, on my ex husbands side Thomas Cutbush....who is also a suspect...he was committed into a mental home eventually for stabbing a woman in her buttocks....Twas very cheeky of him...lol :) :) :) :)
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Saw books this morning patti at a local car boot sale lots of em , you cant beat a tea biscuit or two and watching bw films , Night of the hunter comes to mind, night of the demon, or dead of night, ore night of the eagle , when dark and raining outside even better.
You can guess that my book is a signed copy....lololol You should check them out Mertol, well worth it in the end....Books will eventually be rare, for the kindle is taking over....which I shall never use. I don't like being scared Mertol. I wont watch horror films or read supernatural stuff....I don;t believe in life after death, but I am a strong believer in spirit.... :) :) :) :)
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You can guess that my book is a signed copy....lololol You should check them out Mertol, well worth it in the end....Books will eventually be rare, for the kindle is taking over....which I shall never use. I don't like being scared Mertol. I wont watch horror films or read supernatural stuff....I don;t believe in life after death, but I am a strong believer in spirit.... :) :) :) :)
The sheer amount of books i see patti at these boot sales is every week, books from 5p ive 2 signed books 1 from now deceased betty hill who is very famous in ufo lore
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The sheer amount of books i see patti at these boot sales is every week, books from 5p ive 2 signed books 1 from now deceased betty hill who is very famous in ufo lore
I'm not into green men either Mertol...I'm not even convinced man landed on the moon. Mt Gran always told me to believe nothing unless you see it for your self.....She also told me to keep my purse full, so to deceive others into thinking i had a lot of money....I should be a major land owner, but it is sods law that it was my grandfather who had his birthright taken from him....:( :) :) :) :) :)
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I'm not into green men either Mertol...I'm not even convinced man landed on the moon. Mt Gran always told me to believe nothing unless you see it for your self.....She also told me to keep my purse full, so to deceive others into thinking i had a lot of money....I should be a major land owner, but it is sods law that it was my grandfather who had his birthright taken from him....:( :) :) :) :) :)
ive a couple of john boland hardbacks,the league of gentlemen /the gentlemen re form
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Walter Sickert.
Sickert took a keen interest in the crimes of Jack the Ripper and believed he had lodged in a room used by the infamous serial killer. He had been told this by his landlady, who suspected a previous lodger. Sickert did a painting of the room and titled it "Jack the Ripper's Bedroom." It shows a dark, melancholy room with most details obscured. This painting now resides in the Manchester City Art Gallery in Manchester.
In 2002, crime novelist Patricia Cornwell, in Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper—Case Closed, maintained that Sickert was Jack the Ripper.A psychological motivation for Sickert was said to be a congenital anomaly of his penis. Cornwell purchased 31 of Sickert's paintings, and some persons in the arts world have said that she destroyed one of them in a search for Sickert's DNA, but Cornwell denies having done this. Cornwell claimed she was able to scientifically prove that the DNA on a letter attributed to the Ripper and on a letter written by Sickert belong to only one percent of the population.
It may be worth mentioning that his father bought him, as a child, to London to have the anomaly rectified. I believe at the time he spoke only German, having been born there, and as was the practice at the time, no attempt was made to comfort or explain to the child what was about to happen. The operation was carried out, aided by nursing assistants to hold him still, without the use of anaesthetics. The poor child must have thought he was being murdered, on top of which the operation was unsuccessful. I couldn't be certain if his penis served any function save urination. I seem to think that some of it had to be amputated during the operation. It's easy to see how he may have developed a lifelong hatred of women if he recalled women holding him down whilst his genitals were mutilated.
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It may be worth mentioning that his father bought him, as a child, to London to have the anomaly rectified. I believe at the time he spoke only German, having been born there, and as was the practice at the time, no attempt was made to comfort or explain to the child what was about to happen. The operation was carried out, aided by nursing assistants to hold him still, without the use of anaesthetics. The poor child must have thought he was being murdered, on top of which the operation was unsuccessful. I couldn't be certain if his penis served any function save urination. I seem to think that some of it had to be amputated during the operation. It's easy to see how he may have developed a lifelong hatred of women if he recalled women holding him down whilst his genitals were mutilated.
Yeah, I am just reading about this now. It makes for another angle to the mystery. Walter Sickert is IMO one of the more likely suspects I've read about.
Its all very interesting mat. Can you remember a few years ago the police tried to get DNA from a shawl that belonged to one of the victims? Sadly, even with today's advanced technology is was unsuccessful.
I haven't heard of him...so now I will have to google him...lol
Mat check the dates of the murders, they are significant....and to me they form a patten.
Interestingly enough I have a relative, on my ex husbands side Thomas Cutbush....who is also a suspect...he was committed into a mental home eventually for stabbing a woman in her buttocks....Twas very cheeky of him...lol :) :) :) :)
Yeah, I remember the shawl. I was hoping soemthing would come of it, because this mystery drives me wild!, but nothing did, you're right.
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Saw books this morning patti at a local car boot sale lots of em , you cant beat a tea biscuit or two and watching bw films , Night of the hunter comes to mind, night of the demon, or dead of night, ore night of the eagle , when dark and raining outside even better.
Hi Mertol....Night of the Giant Rabbits, was one of the best!! Beyond belief, circa 1972/3 ish. :o
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Hi Mertol....Night of the Giant Rabbits, was one of the best!! Beyond belief, circa 1972/3 ish. :o
Maggir, how can you sleep after reading things like that. I'd have to read them through my fingers or from behind a cushion :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
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Maggir, how can you sleep after reading things like that. I'd have to read them through my fingers or from behind a cushion :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Hi April, I am the biggest coward out, many a time when I was young I have had to go and sit in the loos waiting for the B film to finish cos I was so scared. The rabbit film thing was so rediculous that even I survived it, I think it was voted as one of the worst films of all time!! :o :o
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Hi April, I am the biggest coward out, many a time when I was young I have had to go and sit in the loos waiting for the B film to finish cos I was so scared. The rabbit film thing was so rediculous that even I survived it, I think it was voted as one of the worst films of all time!! :o :o
The worst film of all time maggie there can only be one such a film, Plan 9 from Outer Space.
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Hi April, I am the biggest coward out, many a time when I was young I have had to go and sit in the loos waiting for the B film to finish cos I was so scared. The rabbit film thing was so rediculous that even I survived it, I think it was voted as one of the worst films of all time!! :o :o
I've never heard of the 'Night of the Giant Rabbits' film. (Might have different connatations nowadays!)
The worst film for me when I was young was 'The Birds'. I went on holiday to Cornwall not long afterwards and refused to get out of the car when we stopped at a service station as there were crows everywhere!
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I've never heard of the 'Night of the Giant Rabbits' film. (Might have different connatations nowadays!)
The worst film for me when I was young was 'The Birds'. I went on holiday to Cornwall not long afterwards and refused to get out of the car when we stopped at a service station as there were crows everywhere!
Hi HME, I avoided that film like the plague, I love birds but only at a distance as I have a phobia about them. That film could have killed me!! :o :o
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I've never heard of the 'Night of the Giant Rabbits' film. (Might have different connatations nowadays!)
The worst film for me when I was young was 'The Birds'. I went on holiday to Cornwall not long afterwards and refused to get out of the car when we stopped at a service station as there were crows everywhere!
Ohhh, I don't blame you. I've had a phobia of feathers since being taken to a carnival in my pushchair and when one of the floats went past, they emptied sacks onto the assembled crowd. The sacks were full of feathers, which settled on me, in my mouth, in my hair and on my clothes. Being trapped in a pushchair I couldn't get away from them. It's only been in recent years that my fingers haven't dripped with perspiration when I was anywhere near a feather. You may understand that "The Birds" was a definite "no no".
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Hi HME, I avoided that film like the plague, I love birds but only at a distance as I have a phobia about them. That film could have killed me!! :o :o
I got over my phobia, luckily. My daughter, however, has the worst bird phobia ever - she freaks out if even a pigeon dares to land near us when we're out - many a time I've suddenly been pushed sideways when she sees one!
That film was on T.V. the other night and it wasn't scary at all. I still watched it as I love Hitchcock films.
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I got over my phobia, luckily. My daughter, however, has the worst bird phobia ever - she freaks out if even a pigeon dares to land near us when we're out - many a time I've suddenly been pushed sideways when she sees one!
That film was on T.V. the other night and it wasn't scary at all. I still watched it as I love Hitchcock films.
Hi HME, I had hypnotherapy for flying and that has helped my bird phobia as well (ironic really!). I dont have to move if a pigeon comes a bit close but I'm still pretty bad and could never touch one.
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Ohhh, I don't blame you. I've had a phobia of feathers since being taken to a carnival in my pushchair and when one of the floats went past, they emptied sacks onto the assembled crowd. The sacks were full of feathers, which settled on me, in my mouth, in my hair and on my clothes. Being trapped in a pushchair I couldn't get away from them. It's only been in recent years that my fingers haven't dripped with perspiration when I was anywhere near a feather. You may understand that "The Birds" was a definite "no no".
That sounds horrendous - I don't blame you for hating them or the film.
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Hi HME, I had hypnotherapy for flying and that has helped my bird phobia as well (ironic really!). I dont have to move if a pigeon comes a bit close but I'm still pretty bad and could never touch one.
Yes, ironic!
I don't like flying that much either because I hate being cooped up for too long. (Another phobia - claustrophobia - lol?)
I've often thought hypnotherapy could work for my daughter. One place she'd like to visit is Venice...
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Yes, ironic!
I don't like flying that much either because I hate being cooped up for too long. (Another phobia - claustrophobia - lol?)
I've often thought hypnotherapy could work for my daughter. One place she'd like to visit is Venice...
Oh dear!! I believe Venice has it's fair share of pigeons. :o :o Hypnotherapy is really good, I was hypnotised for longhaul flights but not Easy Jet so I need to go back for that!! You need a hypnotherapist who practices the modern way, it should only take a few sessions if they are good.
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Oh dear!! I believe Venice has it's fair share of pigeons. :o :o Hypnotherapy is really good, I was hypnotised for longhaul flights but not Easy Jet so I need to go back for that!! You need a hypnotherapist who practices the modern way, it should only take a few sessions if they are good.
Thanks. I will look in to that.
My daughter is quite tough in other ways - she'll pick up a spider to remove it whilst I'm squealing!
Phobias are so strange don't you think?
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Thanks. I will look in to that.
My daughter is quite tough in other ways - she'll pick up a spider to remove it whilst I'm squealing!
Phobias are so strange don't you think?
Yes, it's a fear which for some reason we put onto something else which then becomes a phobia, although the original fear doesn't necessarily have anything to connect it to the phobia. If you see what I mean.....I think ;D
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Hi Mertol....Night of the Giant Rabbits, was one of the best!! Beyond belief, circa 1972/3 ish. :o
Mertol the film was called Night of the Lepus...a lepus is a giant rabbit.....
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Mertol the film was called Night of the Lepus...a lepus is a giant rabbit.....
never heard it maggie a google look up in progress
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Look up completed maggie it looks and sounds tripe, i see De Forest Kelly , aka Dr Mc Coy of Star Trek fame was the president.
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Sounds like a good book, strange that you are reading that actually because I am currently reading Patricia Cornwells "Portrait of a Killer" Jack the Ripper - I love the Ripper case, very fascinating. I did a tour of the crime scenes at midnight on halloween many years ago, creepy stuff!
I love to relax on Sundays yeah but also have to have a Sunday roast! ;D
I'm fascinated by the Ripper case too and currently reading 'The crimes of Jack the Ripper' by Paul Roland, which gives a fascinating insight.
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Have you ever read the Ripper Diaries? A book about some diaries written by a fellow named James maybrick.
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Have you ever read the Ripper Diaries? A book about some diaries written by a fellow named James maybrick.
Not read them no. Personally I think 'Jack the Ripper' didn't exist and was created as a media phenomenom. This may be a blunt perspective but it sells far more papers, when you have 1 man terrorising the streets of London, than numerous isolated murders.
My personal opinion is that both forensic science and police intelligence regarding modus operandi were not advanced enough in the 19th century to categorically say with absolute certainty that the same man committed all the murders. I personally believe that they were committed by a number of separate individuals.
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Not read them no. Personally I think 'Jack the Ripper' didn't exist and was created as a media phenomenom. This may be a blunt perspective but it sells far more papers, when you have 1 man terrorising the streets of London, than numerous isolated murders.
My personal opinion is that both forensic science and police intelligence regarding modus operandi were not advanced enough in the 19th century to categorically say with absolute certainty that the same man committed all the murders. I personally believe that they were committed by a number of separate individuals.
Interesting point.
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What is it about the dates patti thats so significant?
Nichols' body was discovered at about 3:40 a.m. on Friday 31 August 1888 in Buck's Row (now Durward Street)
Chapman's body was discovered at about 6 a.m. on Saturday 8 September 1888 near a doorway in the back yard of 29 Hanbury Street
Stride and Eddowes were killed in the early morning of Sunday 30 September 1888.
Kelly's gruesomely mutilated body was discovered lying on the bed in the single room where she lived at 13 Miller's Court,[8] off Dorset Street, Spitalfields, at 10:45 a.m. on Friday 9 November 1888.
Im sure Mitre Sq is the only crime scene that was as it was at the time of the murders, many of the crime scenes have been built over and have nothing to even identify them as such, thats the main reason why I have never bothered taking one of these tours.
31st Aug 1888 was 3rd quarter moon
8th Sept 1888 was a new moon
30th Sept was was a 3rd quarter moon
9th nov 1888 was a new moon
Is this the pattern?
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What is it about the dates patti thats so significant?
Nichols' body was discovered at about 3:40 a.m. on Friday 31 August 1888 in Buck's Row (now Durward Street)
Chapman's body was discovered at about 6 a.m. on Saturday 8 September 1888 near a doorway in the back yard of 29 Hanbury Street
Stride and Eddowes were killed in the early morning of Sunday 30 September 1888.
Kelly's gruesomely mutilated body was discovered lying on the bed in the single room where she lived at 13 Miller's Court,[8] off Dorset Street, Spitalfields, at 10:45 a.m. on Friday 9 November 1888.
Im sure Mitre Sq is the only crime scene that was as it was at the time of the murders, many of the crime scenes have been built over and have nothing to even identify them as such, thats the main reason why I have never bothered taking one of these tours.
31st Aug 1888 was 3rd quarter moon
8th Sept 1888 was a new moon
30th Sept was was a 3rd quarter moon
9th nov 1888 was a new moon
Is this the pattern?
Hi Gordo
Yes, I do mean that. Note the last day of each month and the 8th and 9th at the beginning of each month....What is also significant is that they all died within 2 weeks of their birthday.... :) :) :) :)
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Hi Patti. My throat is dry through lack of on line conversation :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Hi april :) how you doing girl. packagebuilder is like you his throat is dry due to lack of conversation. I will get him to post up. :)
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Hi Patti. My throat is dry through lack of on line conversation :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Hi April, my throat was dry earlier, but now had a drink, so back on form...lol
What would you like to talk about???????????? It's all doom and gloom...
Did you hear about the young girl that was left all alone on a boat in Norfolk? They found her parents dead....How awful it that....
It reminded me of the Natalie Wood story.......There has and always will be speculation about her death... :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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HELLOOOO Susan. Great to have somebody to type to!!!!!! The forum's been a one thread wonder (albeit a VERY important one and no disrespect meant, Mike! :-* :-* :-*)all day. I was away from home for nearly 7 hrs and there couldn't have been more than a dozen posts in that time!!!!
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Not read them no. Personally I think 'Jack the Ripper' didn't exist and was created as a media phenomenom. This may be a blunt perspective but it sells far more papers, when you have 1 man terrorising the streets of London, than numerous isolated murders.
My personal opinion is that both forensic science and police intelligence regarding modus operandi were not advanced enough in the 19th century to categorically say with absolute certainty that the same man committed all the murders. I personally believe that they were committed by a number of separate individuals.
Hi Petey
I disagree, I think he was real and all 5 women died in similar circumstances.....I'm not sure about Martha though.... :) :) :) :)
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Maybe I ought to bump up some old threads.....I will have a look... :o :o :o
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April I did miss you but I was at the Dentist and then reading Mike's posts so not done much posting today talked some to our mutal friend packagebuilder :)
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April I did miss you but I was at the Dentist and then reading Mike's posts so not done much posting today talked some to our mutal friend packagebuilder :)
Ugh!! Dentist is not much fun. Hope it was nothing more than a checkup!!! I've been out for lunch. Talked about the forum. My friend;s ex son in law was with the Met. He, and many of his co cops, before they joined the force, were drinking partners of the Krays.
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Hi april two fillings £30 National Health. Bet they would have lots to talk about drinking with the Krays' :)
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Hi april two fillings £30 National Health. Bet they would have lots to talk about drinking with the Krays' :)
I think they learned much from them too, Susan!! Know what I mean? Nudge nudge. Wink wink!!!!
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If anyone is interested go on Twitter at #RipperLive There is a handsome man called Gavin on there... :) :) :) :)
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mat the press will sink as low as they can get to have a story,its sadly one still remaining vices our country has, i would not put it past them to slip in her flat or offer cash to a janitor there for a look inside , where sheils lived fell into decay i have seen pictures of then and now .
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mat the press will sink as low as they can get to have a story,its sadly one still remaining vices our country has, i would not put it past them to slip in her flat or offer cash to a janitor there for a look inside , where sheils lived fell into decay i have seen pictures of then and now .
Well you've posted this reply in the wrong topic. But to sugges tthat the sun have broken into Sheilas apartment, seen the pcitures and then made the story about Jeremy up - is silly non-sense.
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Yeah, I am just reading about this now. It makes for another angle to the mystery. Walter Sickert is IMO one of the more likely suspects I've read about.
Yeah, I remember the shawl. I was hoping soemthing would come of it, because this mystery drives me wild!, but nothing did, you're right.
I'll have to double check my references, but from memory, Sickert was out of the country for at least two of the murders. It's almost certain that he sent letters claiming to be from the killer, though, and he did appear to have an unhealty obssession with the murders.
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I'll have to double check my references, but from memory, Sickert was out of the country for at least two of the murders. It's almost certain that he sent letters claiming to be from the killer, though, and he did appear to have an unhealty obssession with the murders.
Yeah, Cornwell does talk about him apparently being out of the country - I think she disputes it but I haven't reached that far yet.
Yes, he does seem to have a facination with the crimes, but then again he could have just enjoyed reading the stories and the details and painting pictures relating to the case ebcause he could connect to it due to the victims injuries matching his own disfigurements.
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In all honesty, I think it's more likely JTR was Jonny Nobody...someone we've never even heard of, or ever will hear of. I find the idea that he's someone with some standing quite odd. It just sells books, I suppose.
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Hi Petey
I disagree, I think he was real and all 5 women died in similar circumstances.....I'm not sure about Martha though.... :) :) :) :)
I disagree. If you read through all the evidence the 'similar circumstances' is a tenuous link and in my opinion is very much stretching the point.
I'm sure that the same individual did not kill all 5 people. But that is just my opinion and we will never know the truth.
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I disagree. If you read through all the evidence the 'similar circumstances' is a tenuous link and in my opinion is very much stretching the point.
I'm sure that the same individual did not kill all 5 people. But that is just my opinion and we will never know the truth.
That of course is your opinion, it certainly is not the opinion of the vast majority, including myself.
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ive a now obsolete videodisc player and films one is Murder by Decree, with the fine actor Christopher Plummer, in the film Jack the Ripper is a freemason, ive also got on NTSC video Time after Time, with David Warner as Jack the Ripper ,a cracker film.
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ive a now obsolete videodisc player and films one is Murder by Decree, with the fine actor Christopher Plummer, in the film Jack the Ripper is a freemason, ive also got on NTSC video Time after Time, with David Warner as Jack the Ripper ,a cracker film.
Mertol :)
Wicked!!!!
I have another book "Andy & Sue Parlour's researches of the Jack the Ripper Whitechaplel Murders" signed of course.....Can't wait to read it.. :) :) :) :)
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Mertol :)
Wicked!!!!
I have another book "Andy & Sue Parlour's researches of the Jack the Ripper Whitechaplel Murders" signed of course.....Can't wait to read it.. :) :) :) :)
Hi Patti, Time After Time is a great film one of the few Malcolm Mc Dowell is not a baddy he plays HG Wells, a actor born in Leeds.
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Hi Patti, Time After Time is a great film one of the few Malcolm Mc Dowell is not a baddy he plays HG Wells, a actor born in Leeds.
I never knew H G Wells was born in Leeds....You see I learn something new every day....I'm of snug my duvet....Speak soon :) :) :) :)
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I never knew H G Wells was born in Leeds....You see I learn something new every day....I'm of snug my duvet....Speak soon :) :) :) :)
Malcolm Mc Dowell patti a Leeds man ,if... Clockwork Orange fame.
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Enjoy your kippo patti, i was in Lincoln most of the day , my car radiator failed yesterday, so ive decided to have a new one rather one from a breakers yard it wont be here till monday so when the car is ready monday i will go on bus to collect, and soon i will be having a week away break nr slough in a house of god.
night night.