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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: campion on June 09, 2012, 08:22:PM
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Do Jeremy or the Boutflour and Eaton families know that at a 400ft high Wind Turbine Farm is about to spring up across the Blackwater estuary on Bradwell, as the turbines are onshore, people worst affected are those with a visual amenity of 6km, White House Farm is in this zone !
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Do Jeremy or the Boutflour and Eaton families know that at a 400ft high Wind Turbine Farm is about to spring up across the Blackwater estuary on Bradwell, as the turbines are onshore, people worst affected are those with a visual amenity of 6km, White House Farm is in this zone !
I am sickened by this, campion. So much evidence is emerging that these wind turbines do not have anything like the benefits claimed for them and they are such eye sores. I sympathise with the people of the Dengie peninsular, which is where Bradwell Nuclear power station is, and those on the other side of the estuary. That is such a stunningly beautiful part of our coastline, this plan is so wrong. What puzzles me is that I believed that the people of the Dengie had put a stop to this proposal.
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In fact some members of this Forum will be directly affected by the blight that these German owned Turbines will bring. Essex County Council and the Present Government don't consider this part of Essex to have any Importance regarding Landscape, or Historical significance, let me point out that since becoming part of the Jeremy Bamber Forum and touring the Entire District, the buffoons that made the decision to allow this Greenwash Monstrosity need to get round to specsavers for a new "set of bins". For all those of you yet to visit the area, there are hidden gems of outstanding natural beauty that will knock your socks off.......
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Within the last two weeks road signs have been erected for the Construction traffic to leave the A12 at the Danbury junction then go through Danbury take a left at the roundabout for Maldon and then follow the black dots to Bradwell. The only mention of Bradwell Wind Farm is on the A12 sign. I have been very tempted to buy some yellow road sign spray paint and sabbotage the signs !!!!
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The Osea Caravan park, Vaulty Manor, all the Bamber Estates are going to be affected.
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Tony Benn lives on the Dengie at wonderful Stansgate Abbey, Campion, Many of his aristocratic Wedgewood Benn ancestors are buried in St Lawrence's Church on the hill above the abbey and Ramsey Island next door - another place with stunning views. This is an outrage.
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As this directly affects Jeremy and his relations is He aware of the impact this will have. He can even see the area from Full Sutton just look on Google Earth.
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In fact some members of this Forum will be directly affected by the blight that these German owned Turbines will bring. Essex County Council and the Present Government don't consider this part of Essex to have any Importance regarding Landscape, or Historical significance, let me point out that since becoming part of the Jeremy Bamber Forum and touring the Entire District, the buffoons that made the decision to allow this Greenwash Monstrosity need to get round to specsavers for a new "set of bins". For all those of you yet to visit the area, there are hidden gems of outstanding natural beauty that will knock your socks off.......
I totally agree with you Campion.
Although it is years since I've been to Bradwell, that is where that little chapel St. Peter's is located. I remember the walk - very bracing!
As for these turbines being an eyesore, I went on the pier at Southend last year and my friend pointed them out to me on the horizon - they can be seen for miles.
Closer to home, there's one in a garden near to me. It looks most peculiar.
I've also read that they kill wildlife like birds and bats, which chase insects that are drawn to them either due to their colour or the heat they give out.
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I feel the same about mobile phone masts.
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The site is land at Hockley Farm, Hockley Lane, Bradwell-on-Sea, Essex. This installation will set a Planning precedent giving the green light for more on shore Turbines, look out Leeds, Sheffield, Lincolnshire, in fact anywhere that these Enviromental Lunatics think they can foist this Greenwash onto an unsuspecting community. All of your special places will be wrecked by Foreign conglomerates. I cannot believe that it is right to be forced to pay tribute to Germans And Spaniards through electricity produced by something I loathe with a passion. I wonder whether Bamber, The Eaton's and Boutflour's feel the same ?
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Actually, I used to know one of the people responsible for (some) of the turbine farms in Dengie. For them it's just a business.
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The site is land at Hockley Farm, Hockley Lane, Bradwell-on-Sea, Essex. This installation will set a Planning precedent giving the green light for more on shore Turbines, look out Leeds, Sheffield, Lincolnshire, in fact anywhere that these Enviromental Lunatics think they can foist this Greenwash onto an unsuspecting community. All of your special places will be wrecked by Foreign conglomerates. I cannot believe that it is right to be forced to pay tribute to Germans And Spaniards through electricity produced by something I loathe with a passion. I wonder whether Bamber, The Eaton's and Boutflour's feel the same ?
Don't they own our banks too?!!
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The thing is that something most surprising has cropped up from researching Jeremy's family's estate!
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The thing is that something most surprising has cropped up from researching Jeremy's family's estate!
Go on, tell us!!
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I started writing a thread called Bamber Country some time ago, as the appeal decision was coming up I stopped posting on that thread and concentrated my effort on the appeal which unsurprisingly came to bugger all, as is to be expected when the CCRC is that bent. So since then I have continued to investigate the rest of the district that covers Bamber Country, I agree it is not case related but as the places include Bamber residences including WHF, Goldhanger where he used to live and various other villages where he would have gone to as part of his day to day life, I apologise to purists who are only interested directly in the case but most of the threads on here normally take a direction away from the intended theme. The next place Bamber Country was going was Mersea Island, then it was going to finish at Tolleshunt D'arcy And WHF. Mersea Island threw up something incredible....
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As I can only type with a single digit, I end up resembling ET and have to wait for the circulation to return to my fingers.
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I started writing a thread called Bamber Country some time ago, as the appeal decision was coming up I stopped posting on that thread and concentrated my effort on the appeal which unsurprisingly came to bugger all, as is to be expected when the CCRC is that bent. So since then I have continued to investigate the rest of the district that covers Bamber Country, I agree it is not case related but as the places include Bamber residences including WHF, Goldhanger where he used to live and various other villages where he would have gone to as part of his day to day life, I apologise to purists who are only interested directly in the case but most of the threads on here normally take a direction away from the intended theme. The next place Bamber Country was going was Mersea Island, then it was going to finish at Tolleshunt D'arcy And WHF. Mersea Island threw up something incredible....
Don't apologise!
I love local history and its connection to present day.
These posts do tend to get lost amongst the threads, I agree. Why not revive the Bamber Country thread?
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Right, back to Mersea Island. As some of you may know Mersea is famous for its oysters that allegedly are the seafood equivalent of Viagra and will give a libido similar to a rutting rhinoceros at full rut, highly recommended if your spending time with Angie Greaves, by all accounts ! Mersea also has an ancient tumulus known as the Mersea Barrow, dating back to the first century AD. It also has this church called St Peter and St Paul's at West Mersea and buried under the churchyard are some of the finest Roman Mosaics yet to be fully excavated and documented in the UK. Under the chancel floor is a mosaic star from the first/second century. The museum next door to the church claim this was part of a Roman villa. Roman wall remains are extensive, one wall was over a hundred yards long, similar in construction to Temple walls discovered in other parts of the Roman Empire. The research I have carried out points to this site being a Temple for High Status Romans who are about to enter the afterlife, the site location at West Mersea is clearly visible from the Othona Fort site across the Blackwater at Bradwell, which when viewed from the top of the hill at Wickham Bishops/ Great Totham/ Great Braxted, you can actually piece together the significance the area had in the past. The whole area was the Ancient kingdom of Camaludonum, occupied by Kings of Briton through a period that ended with the dissolution of the monasteries. Mersea Island was the property of the Priory of Ouen before the time of Edward the Confessor. The links to St Cedds chapel at Bradwell, Barking Abbey and the development of early christian culture in Britain come from this area. I believe with further investigation the site at West Mersea will reveal the earliest surviving Christian artefact's discovered in this country and its importance to our culture is comparable to Stonehenge. It is a shame that it will be blighted by a 121 metre high Wind Turbine Farm because Politicians decided it was insignificant and of little merit. In light of this I am recommending that people with a supply account for Electricity with N Power phone them up on Monday morning and change supplier in protest. Tweet your mates and tell them as well. The full Economic benefits of this area are the key to unlocking the true potential of tourism in this Country. Tolleshunt D'arcy takes its name from a Yorkshireman, yeah you can't make this up?
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Right, back to Mersea Island. As some of you may know Mersea is famous for its oysters that allegedly are the seafood equivalent of Viagra and will give a libido similar to a rutting rhinoceros at full rut, highly recommended if your spending time with Angie Greaves, by all accounts ! Mersea also has an ancient tumulus known as the Mersea Barrow, dating back to the first century AD. It also has this church called St Peter and St Paul's at West Mersea and buried under the churchyard are some of the finest Roman Mosaics yet to be fully excavated and documented in the UK. Under the chancel floor is a mosaic star from the first/second century. The museum next door to the church claim this was part of a Roman villa. Roman wall remains are extensive, one wall was over a hundred yards long, similar in construction to Temple walls discovered in other parts of the Roman Empire. The research I have carried out points to this site being a Temple for High Status Romans who are about to enter the afterlife, the site location at West Mersea is clearly visible from the Othona Fort site across the Blackwater at Bradwell, which when viewed from the top of the hill at Wickham Bishops/ Great Totham/ Great Braxted, you can actually piece together the significance the area had in the past. The whole area was the Ancient kingdom of Camaludonum, occupied by Kings of Briton through a period that ended with the dissolution of the monasteries. Mersea Island was the property of the Priory of Ouen before the time of Edward the Confessor. The links to St Cedds chapel at Bradwell, Barking Abbey and the development of early christian culture in Britain come from this area. I believe with further investigation the site at West Mersea will reveal the earliest surviving Christian artefact's discovered in this country and its importance to our culture is comparable to Stonehenge. It is a shame that it will be blighted by a 121 metre high Wind Turbine Farm because Politicians decided it was insignificant and of little merit. In light of this I am recommending that people with a supply account for Electricity with N Power phone them up on Monday morning and change supplier in protest. Tweet your mates and tell them as well. The full Economic benefits of this area are the key to unlocking the true potential of tourism in this Country. Tolleshunt D'arcy takes its name from a Yorkshireman, yeah you can't make this up?
Any history on the name "Tolleshunt Knights", and how it came about?
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Not concrete, but possibly a reference to Knights Templar?
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Not concrete, but possibly a reference to Knights Templar?
Knights Templar, no less?
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Found this article on the history of Tolleshunt Knights:
http://www.essexinfo.net/tolleshuntknightsparishcouncil/history-of-tolleshunt-knights/
"The district's entry in the Domesday Book in 1086 reportedly shows it to have consisted of 4 manors, with a combined population of 120, possessed of 5 plough teams of eight oxen.It is only after this time that the 3 villages which bear the name Tolleshunt clearly emerge, with title to the land around Tolleshunt D'Arcy eventually being acquired by the D'Arcy family, Tolleshunt Major by the Le Majeurs, and Tolleshunt Knights by the Le Chevalliers (Chevalier being of course the Norman French for Knight). The name of Tolleshunt Knights may also be derived from the fact that the land round about was once given over as tithe land to the most largest of all the orders of crusading knights, the Knights Templar, who had considerable land holdings in Essex until the order was suppressed on the orders of King Edward II in 1311, but it is more likely that the former explanation is the correct one."
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Found this article on the history of Tolleshunt Knights:
http://www.essexinfo.net/tolleshuntknightsparishcouncil/history-of-tolleshunt-knights/
"The district's entry in the Domesday Book in 1086 reportedly shows it to have consisted of 4 manors, with a combined population of 120, possessed of 5 plough teams of eight oxen.It is only after this time that the 3 villages which bear the name Tolleshunt clearly emerge, with title to the land around Tolleshunt D'Arcy eventually being acquired by the D'Arcy family, Tolleshunt Major by the Le Majeurs, and Tolleshunt Knights by the Le Chevalliers (Chevalier being of course the Norman French for Knight). The name of Tolleshunt Knights may also be derived from the fact that the land round about was once given over as tithe land to the most largest of all the orders of crusading knights, the Knights Templar, who had considerable land holdings in Essex until the order was suppressed on the orders of King Edward II in 1311, but it is more likely that the former explanation is the correct one."
Very interesting, thank you...
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I started to take an interest in the KNIGHTS TEMPLAR after a visit to Malta...
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And did you thank your lucky stars that you never incurred their wrath enough to be placed in that dreadful hole they placed people to punish misdemeanours?
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And did you thank your lucky stars that you never incurred their wrath enough to be placed in that dreadful hole they placed people to punish misdemeanours?
Tell me more, and educate me...
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And did you thank your lucky stars that you never incurred their wrath enough to be placed in that dreadful hole they placed people to punish misdemeanours?
They were a very blood thirsty sect and not that moral. They had very little respect for Muslims and referred to them as infidels. Richard 1st was a Templer and although he is revered by the English as being a fair and just man, he spent hardly any time in England and spoke only French. When he died his instructions were to send a part of his body to all 4 corners of his kingdom, except England.
Whilst in the so called "holy land" he captured around 3000 Muslim prisoners. He had nowhere to keep them so he had them all slaughtered. Apparently Saladin was a more just and honourable man than King Richard, (a hard thing to say for a Christian. But I have seen this to be true of Muslims for myself) who acquired the name "Lionheart" because he was very brave. Saladin said that he often put himself into dangerous situations when he need not have done. Those crusaders were all Knights Templer. There got their name because they worshipped in erm "Temples".
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Tell me more, and educate me...
Hi Mike. Whilst on a walking tour, somewhere in Valleta, we were shown a grid in the ground, it looked like a rain drain. A person regarded as guilty would have been lowered into this deep space, just wide enough for their shoulders, and left there for the duration of their sentence. I don't need to remind you of Malta's climate. Within that space if they didn't fry, they drowned. Few, I imagine came out alive and those who did probably wished they'd died..........but I loved Malta!!!!
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Hi april I found Malta barron and dried out with no greener whatsoever nothing but flies and the heat was intense but it was August when I stayed there the leather shoes were good I bought many pairs and when I got home realised they were not practical so they never got worn :)
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Hi april I found Malta barron and dried out with no greener whatsoever nothing but flies and the heat was intense but it was August when I stayed there the leather shoes were good I bought many pairs and when I got home realised they were not practical so they never got worn :)
I liked Malta but it's too small.
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Morning Bridget yes you can walk round it in no time at all then what do you do sit and get attacked by flies. No thank you :)
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Hi april I found Malta barron and dried out with no greener whatsoever nothing but flies and the heat was intense but it was August when I stayed there the leather shoes were good I bought many pairs and when I got home realised they were not practical so they never got worn :)
Susan, hi. We only ever went there in February and October and the weather was always glorious. It was unbelievably green in February, but by October it was as you describe it.
The shoes are to die for but quite impractical and being Italian, much too narrow for me. I did a pretty fair impression of Cinderella on a couple of occasions!!! I couldn't get over how much the English are loved by the Maltese.
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Hi april I must say the people made us feel very welcome and I suppose by August the hot sun had scorched all the greenery. The Italian shoes were beautiful but not very practical for rugged Yorkshire wellies or boots are the thing for the area where I live. :)
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Morning Bridget yes you can walk round it in no time at all then what do you do sit and get attacked by flies. No thank you :)
One thing I found very offputting was their trapping and shooting of songbirds. It's been 10 years or more since I went there so I don't know if they still do it, but it was happening all over the island at the time.
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Hi Bridget I did not know about the trapping of songbirds it is about 20 years ago since I was there but what a horrible thing to do :(
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Hi Bridget I did not know about the trapping of songbirds it is about 20 years ago since I was there but what a horrible thing to do :(
Yes. And as I recall they were fiercely defensive over it. We hired a small 4x4 so that we could go off the beaten track and that was how we came across it. The field boundaries there are, as you probably remember, made from stones cleared from the fields. The first thing I noticed was that perched on these walls were numerous tiny wooden cages with small birds inside. Somewhere in each of these fields would be a stone built 'hide'. They were using the birds in cages to lure other songbirds in, and they would sit in the hides shooting them. They got really stroppy when we got in the way. This was happening literally all over the island, but never where the tourists would normally see it.
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Hi Bridget I wonder why they would want to do this awful thing that kind of behaviour would not encourage tourists was it being done illegally or were the Authorities in the know barbaric lot >:(
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Hi Bridget I wonder why they would want to do this awful thing that kind of behaviour would not encourage tourists was it being done illegally or were the Authorities in the know barbaric lot >:(
It was apparently a national tradition, and legal. I think there were restrictions on the trapping and shooting of certain types of bird, but it all looked pretty indiscriminate to me.
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Hi Bridget sound like a bunch of barbarians to me glad I don,t visit anymore I would probably end up in Jail if it was still going on as I would release all the birds in the cages. april1 do you no if this cruelty is still going on in Malta. >:(
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Hi Bridget I wonder why they would want to do this awful thing that kind of behaviour would not encourage tourists was it being done illegally or were the Authorities in the know barbaric lot >:(
I seem to recall that ortalon were a delicacy. We had nothing like that, infact generally the food served in the hotels was dire. We found places frequented by locals, asked for whatever they were having and were frequently rewarded with a bottle of wine on the house!!! Rabbit was a favourite local dish. I had a problem with eating bunny which was quickly overcome by the delicious aroma and succulant flavour!!
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Hi Bridget sound like a bunch of barbarians to me glad I don,t visit anymore I would probably end up in Jail if it was still going on as I would release all the birds in the cages. april1 do you no if this cruelty is still going on in Malta. >:(
Yes it is, although it appears to be much more restricted by law, which many of them ignore. This is an article from a Maltese online paper from last month:
http://www.independent.com.mt/news.asp?newsitemid=144751
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Hi Bridget sound like a bunch of barbarians to me glad I don,t visit anymore I would probably end up in Jail if it was still going on as I would release all the birds in the cages. april1 do you no if this cruelty is still going on in Malta. >:(
They used to trap songbirds all over southern europe, they used to put up nets to trap them. They are regarded as a delicacy. Its illegal now but no doubt it still goes on.
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april1/maggie it is dreadful to kill these lovely birds and april1 how could you eat bunnies I get upset at the cats eating them. One thing I could not get in Malta was a decent cuppa we stayed at the Hilton so the food was delicious I came home about a stone heavier always got good tea there but I would never go back they are too barbaric for me ???
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Or how about throwing another kangaroo steak on the barbie.? Oh yes,,along with emu steaks,,they are sold in butchers shops in Australia.
Little song birds are a delicacy in the Far East.
I hasten to add that I wouldn't eat any of them.
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Hi lookout you are a woman after my own heart :) :) :)
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They used to trap songbirds all over southern europe, they used to put up nets to trap them. They are regarded as a delicacy. Its illegal now but no doubt it still goes on.
I remember watching a program on tv about this. I can't remember the whole program, but eating these small song birds involved serving the whole bird up in a small pot and in order to catch the aroma of the cooked bird they all put cloths over their heads whilst they ate the whole bird. Yuk!
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Or how about throwing another kangaroo steak on the barbie.? Oh yes,,along with emu steaks,,they are sold in butchers shops in Australia.
Little song birds are a delicacy in the Far East.
I hasten to add that I wouldn't eat any of them.
Together with snake skinned alive on the spot and cooked and fried locust type creatures.
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I remember watching a program on tv about this. I can't remember the whole program, but eating these small song birds involved serving the whole bird up in a small pot and in order to catch the aroma of the cooked bird they all put cloths over their heads whilst they ate the whole bird. Yuk!
Grahame, quite often I wish there was a vomitting smiley face. ;D ;D
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Grahame, quite often I wish there was a vomitting smiley face. ;D ;D
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Susan, those bunnies looked much more appetizing, and less recognizable, than when my cat bought them home. But I can't eat veal.
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omg!! I love it. ;D
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Susan, those bunnies looked much more appetizing, and less recognizable, than when my cat bought them home. But I can't eat veal.
When skinned they look like cats.
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Grahame I,m just eating my lunch enough to put me off my food being a veggie :)
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I remember watching a program on tv about this. I can't remember the whole program, but eating these small song birds involved serving the whole bird up in a small pot and in order to catch the aroma of the cooked bird they all put cloths over their heads whilst they ate the whole bird. Yuk!
I remember that, I think it was the south of France?
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When skinned they look like cats.
Grahame,,I can remember my mum saying that,,because we were great rabbit eaters years ago when they were 1/6,,,,and as soon as she'd said that,we stopped eating them,,as well as the myxomatosis scare.
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Disgusting hope next time it chokes them. >:(
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I remember that, I think it was the south of France?
Yes I believe it was.
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Volker Fitzpatrick, Bradwell Wind Farm, Turbines arrive Autumn 2012.