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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 11:58:AM

Title: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 11:58:AM
Just been reading the pathologist report and he mentions nicotine stains on Sheila's fingers on the "right" hand. Now I'm not sure if this is the same with everyone who smokes, but when I used to smoke way back in my twenties about 100 years back I held the cigarette with my left hand whilst I am right handed. If there are any smokers here are you (1) left or right handed and (2) what hand do you hold your cigarette with? Might or might not be an interesting experiment?
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: NewChilledOutHartley on May 23, 2012, 12:00:PM
Just been reading the pathologist report and he mentions nicotine stains on Sheila's fingers on the "right" hand. Now I'm not sure if this is the same with everyone who smokes, but when I used to smoke way back in my twenties about 100 years back I held the cigarette with my left hand whilst I am right handed. If there are any smokers here are you (1) left or right handed and (2) what hand do you hold your cigarette with? Might or might not be an interesting experiment?

I no longer smoke, but when I did I held it in my right hand. I am right handed.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: Patti on May 23, 2012, 12:01:PM
Eowwwwwwwwwwwwwww I smoke in my left hand, but I am right handed. If this helps.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 12:06:PM
Hmm, perhaps this experiment will prove to be a waste of time. Let's cut it short and ask was Sheila right or left handed? Does anyone know?
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: NewChilledOutHartley on May 23, 2012, 12:08:PM
Hmm, perhaps this experiment will prove to be a waste of time. Let's cut it short and ask was Sheila right or left handed? Does anyone know?

Sheila was right handed.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: Patti on May 23, 2012, 12:22:PM
Which hand do you hold the phone in? l ;D
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: lookout on May 23, 2012, 12:23:PM
Hi Patti,me too.Right-handed but hold cig with left hand. Only the slightest tinge of nicotine is visible to see the difference in my right and left forefinger.
Sheila smoked thick cigars as well as her cannabis,so markings would have been more pronounced I would imagine. She must have smoked both to " the bitter end " in order to have had staining of her finger/s.

I've often wondered if there'd have been a strong smell of cigar smoke when the police entered the farmhouse.It's never been mentioned,unfortunately,as it would have been another indication that Sheila was " up and about ". Though,saying that,the police would have related a cigar smell to a male and not necessarily a female.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: Patti on May 23, 2012, 12:32:PM
Hi Patti,me too.Right-handed but hold cig with left hand. Only the slightest tinge of nicotine is visible to see the difference in my right and left forefinger.
Sheila smoked thick cigars as well as her cannabis,so markings would have been more pronounced I would imagine. She must have smoked both to " the bitter end " in order to have had staining of her finger/s.

I've often wondered if there'd have been a strong smell of cigar smoke when the police entered the farmhouse.It's never been mentioned,unfortunately,as it would have been another indication that Sheila was " up and about ". Though,saying that,the police would have related a cigar smell to a male and not necessarily a female.

Hi Lookout, I believe she smoked cigarlets or something like that.....but, according to her cousin she rolled cigarettes too and, chain smoked in her company, her statement is in the archives...This could be the cause of the stain I suppose.  I'm not sure about cannabis, or whether it would stain the fingers, I didn't know if it could be smoked, I thought you sniffed it.. I've never seen a drug in my life, nor ever taken one......I wouldn't know one if I saw one.  No one ever mentions any smells do they?  :) :) :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 12:45:PM
Hi Patti  Cannabis is usually smoked or the seeds can be cooked in cookies which you give to the vicars wife when she comes for tea (just tell her its seed cake) what a different woman after two or three cookies :) people who partake some "weed" usually roll their own ciggies to put it in the mix.  I did read Sheila did smoke cigars and I was asked by somebody on the forum what brand ;D but of course I don,t know.  Lookout you don,t sniff cannabis you are still on the sniffer dogs :) :) :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: Patti on May 23, 2012, 01:00:PM
Hi Susan it was me that mentioned sniffing not Lookout....this is a statement from her cousin. I wont mention her name because it is unfair.  I see you have found all the smilies...lol  :) :)

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,155.msg332.html#msg332
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 01:09:PM
Sheila was right handed.
Oh right. That solves that one then.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 01:09:PM
Grahame I am an  ex smoker and held my ciggie in my right handed as I am right handed but rather strange I hold my knife in my left hand and fork in right anything to be different
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: NewChilledOutHartley on May 23, 2012, 01:11:PM
Grahame I am an  ex smoker and held my ciggie in my right handed as I am right handed but rather strange I hold my knife in my left hand and fork in right anything to be different

I do exactly the same, I thought it was just me.  ;D

Maybe we've both got something wrong with us?  :-\
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 01:11:PM
Grahame I am an  ex smoker and held my ciggie in my right handed as I am right handed but rather strange I hold my knife in my left hand and fork in right anything to be different
What hand would you hold a gun in? :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 01:12:PM
Which hand do you hold the phone in? l ;D
The left.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 01:13:PM
I do exactly the same, I thought it was just me.  ;D

Maybe we've both got something wrong with us?  :-\
No just you and hartley ;D
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 01:15:PM
Grahame BOTH HANDS to make sure. ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 01:17:PM
Hi Hartley  nothing wrong wi me and thee lad ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 01:18:PM
Grahame BOTH HANDS to make sure. ;) ;) ;)
This left and right handedness is more complicated than I thought?
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: Patti on May 23, 2012, 01:24:PM
Grahame I am an  ex smoker and held my ciggie in my right handed as I am right handed but rather strange I hold my knife in my left hand and fork in right anything to be different

Oh Susan that's just not cricket :o....you have to hold your fork in your left hand.  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 01:25:PM
Hi Grahame  especially when one is gormless like me as well  becomes quite complicated ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 01:25:PM
Hi Hartley  nothing wrong wi me and thee lad ;) ;) ;)
Eeeeh bar gum. :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 01:27:PM
Oh Susan that's just not cricket :o....you have to hold your fork in your left hand.  :) :) :) :)
Except if she were playing cricked she would hold the bat with both hands. :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 01:27:PM
Hi Patti not possible that is why I am not allowed to mix with the elite :) :) :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: NewChilledOutHartley on May 23, 2012, 01:28:PM
This left and right handedness is more complicated than I thought?

Are talking about my right, or yours? Which would be my left, right?  :-\
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 01:30:PM
Hi Hartley  pretty good stuff for I suspect a Southen er ;)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: Patti on May 23, 2012, 01:36:PM
I'd pull a trigger using my right index finger, but if I was dialing phone i would use right hand and hold the receiver in my left hand.  :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 01:38:PM
Hi Patti  I always hold the phone in my right hand only use the left for the knife that is so strange but then again what can you expect I write with my right hand  but sometimes I think Im the wrong way round do you understand what I am trying to say :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 01:38:PM
Are talking about my right, or yours? Which would be my left, right?  :-\
Thats right ;)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: Patti on May 23, 2012, 01:40:PM
Except if she were playing cricked she would hold the bat with both hands. :)

Two hands lol....Would that be a left handed bat or a right handed one....or are all the bats the same? I know golf sticks are different   :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 01:40:PM
I'd pull a trigger using my right index finger, but if I was dialing phone i would use right hand and hold the receiver in my left hand.  :)
I always used my middle finger to pull the trigger. I had more strength in that one. I use to steady the rifle with my index finger.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: Patti on May 23, 2012, 01:42:PM
Hi Patti  I always hold the phone in my right hand only use the left for the knife that is so strange but then again what can you expect I write with my right hand  but sometimes I think Im the wrong way round do you understand what I am trying to say :) :) :) :)

Yes Susan I know where you are coming from....I mean no, yes I think so... :) :) :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: mertol22 on May 23, 2012, 02:18:PM
This left and right handedness is more complicated than I thought?
just skimming the surface grahame, sat in a car drivers seat which hand do you hold the keys in an start ?
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 02:25:PM
mertoll 22  I hold car keys in right hand to start car. :) but do get the feet mixed up as sometimes I,m in an automatic other times in a manual keep off the road if you see me coming I carry a health warning ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: mertol22 on May 23, 2012, 03:12:PM
mertoll 22  I hold car keys in right hand to start car. :) but do get the feet mixed up as sometimes I,m in an automatic other times in a manual keep off the road if you see me coming I carry a health warning ;) ;) ;)
women drivers tell me about it ! saw a classic last week at Asda there is a Arc car wash on the way in, a female driver drove over a high kerb into the car wash part look liked her exhaust took a bang same problem everywhere with great regret i did not have my camera mobile perhaps nextime might be you ??
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 03:19:PM
mertoll22 it could have been me but I prefer to shop at Tesco,s as I can find really big spaces to park in can,t be doing with all this manoeuvring lark.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 03:20:PM
just skimming the surface grahame, sat in a car drivers seat which hand do you hold the keys in an start ?
The right hand as the BMW ignition is erm on the right.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 03:22:PM
mertoll 22  I hold car keys in right hand to start car. :) but do get the feet mixed up as sometimes I,m in an automatic other times in a manual keep off the road if you see me coming I carry a health warning ;) ;) ;)
Mine's an automatic so when I drive my son's car which is a manual I sometimes forget to put my foot on the clutch and then wonder why it stalls.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 03:26:PM
Hi Grahame  I really don,t know what happens my feet have a mind of their own if somebody is sat at the side of me that makes it worse as I know they wish they had never accepted a lift ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 03:32:PM
Hi Grahame  thought all cars had ignition on the right :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: Bridget on May 23, 2012, 03:35:PM
Mine doesn't have keys...
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 03:41:PM
Mine doesn't have keys...
Do you just put your feet through the floor and run with it?
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 03:56:PM
Oh my God Grahame you make my life worthwhile  I can just imagine Bridget peddling down the road at speed in her car without an engine. :) :) :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 04:00:PM
Hi Grahame  just been told that some cars I guess like Bridget,s don,t have keys just have a code hows about that then :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 23, 2012, 04:36:PM
Hi Grahame  just been told that some cars I guess like Bridget,s don,t have keys just have a code hows about that then :)
Yes I know. I was just joking. You can start them from a distance. I want one where if someone tries to nick it flames will shoot out the side.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 23, 2012, 04:52:PM
Hi Grahame  I did know you were joking but it was so funny I am still laughing about it.  I am sure the day will come when you will have your spaceship of your dreams.  Hang in there.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: Gillian on May 23, 2012, 06:28:PM
Hi Everyone - I'm left handed.  I don't smoke.  I use my left hand for everything except when using a pair of scissors.  :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: OnceSaid on May 23, 2012, 10:35:PM
Would use my right hand to smoke a ciggie, if I was doing something which required the use of my right hand, I'd use my left hand to smoke.  Right hand is used for just about everything.

I'm a heavy smoker but don't have nicotine stained fingers.  It must be the roll ups that causes nicotine stains.  I'm suprised it says that she had nicotine stained fingers.  Sheila liked to paint her nails.  I would have thought she would have taken care of any nicotine stains.  If the stains were there, could it have been due to chainsmoking that day?
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 24, 2012, 12:37:PM
Would use my right hand to smoke a ciggie, if I was doing something which required the use of my right hand, I'd use my left hand to smoke.  Right hand is used for just about everything.

I'm a heavy smoker but don't have nicotine stained fingers.  It must be the roll ups that causes nicotine stains.  I'm suprised it says that she had nicotine stained fingers.  Sheila liked to paint her nails.  I would have thought she would have taken care of any nicotine stains.  If the stains were there, could it have been due to chainsmoking that day?
We used to use pins to hold the dogend so we could get a few more drags out the fag.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 24, 2012, 12:44:PM
Hi Oncesaid  if the ciggy is held down or to the side you will get nicotine stained fingers but if the ciggy is held up you wont hows about that for a bit of useless information. :) :) :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 24, 2012, 12:46:PM
Grahame trust you to get the last drag out of the fag (sounds so common) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: lookout on May 24, 2012, 12:54:PM
Hi Susan,,,you're dead right you know,and if it's held downwards for any length of time,without physically smoking the cigarette,the nicotine is more pronounced but will remove easily using a lemon.
Maybe this was in Sheila's case while otherwise distracted.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: lookout on May 24, 2012, 12:56:PM
As for Grahame,if he'd have been a woman,he'd have used a hairclip. Much more conventional.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 24, 2012, 12:57:PM
Hi oncesaid  I think Sheila was a heavy smoker and her hands and nails were so immaculate I would have thought the staining would have annoyed her.  It does look quite disgusting.
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: susan on May 24, 2012, 01:02:PM
 Hi lookout Grahame might use a hairclip in his hair and a bow if he was a woman :) :) :)
Title: Re: right or left handed
Post by: bloggs and son on May 24, 2012, 05:44:PM
As for Grahame,if he'd have been a woman,he'd have used a hairclip. Much more conventional.
Then my hair would be out of place.