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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: sagar on May 22, 2012, 09:51:AM
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For the posters who think there has been a conspiracy to jail bamber and keep him there.
How many people do you think have conspired in the above? Could someone add up the numbers, then we can have a rough estimate.
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We did this a few years back. Including the 2002 appeal it's over 500.
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I hold my hand up to that...Yes I do believe that. :) Sorry!
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We did this a few years back. Including the 2002 appeal it's over 500.
500!!!
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I hold my hand up to that...Yes I do believe that. :) Sorry!
How many people do you think help in this cover up Patti?
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It's been investigated 3 times by 3 different police forces.
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For the posters who think there has been a conspiracy to jail bamber and keep him there.
How many people do you think have conspired in the above? Could someone add up the numbers, then we can have a rough estimate.
Ooooh! now let me see. Half the planet? ;D
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It's been investigated 3 times by 3 different police forces.
So all the three police forces are in on it too? Thats some amount Vidvic.
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Ooooh! now let me see. Half the planet? ;D
Mars or Earth ;)
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We did this a few years back. Including the 2002 appeal it's over 500.
Do you know the family Vidvic?
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Do you know the family Vidvic?
Yes I do.
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How long have you known them? and in what context? good friends?
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Met them in 89. Yes, good friends. I was a cameraman for Anglia TV and filmed Ann & Peter's daughter for a sports story.
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Hope they are all ok now?
Must have been a massive shock for them Vidvic.
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Do you know the family Vidvic?
Both Vidvic and Hartley know the family very well. I've spoken to Vidvic and can testify he is a very honest and genuine chap.
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Both Vidvic and Hartley know the family very well. I've spoken to Vidvic and can testify he is a very honest and genuine chap.
Thanks for that, yes he comes across as genuine. Hartley knows them too?
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I don't think you ever get over something like this. And it goes on and on....they can never put it behind them.
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I don't think you ever get over something like this. And it goes on and on....they can never put it behind them.
Yes it gets dragged up again and again. Must be extremely difficult for them.
Send them my regards.
Must dash, im at work, in trouble if im caught.
bye for now. :)
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Yes it gets dragged up again and again. Must be extremely difficult for them.
Send them my regards.
Must dash, im at work, in trouble if im caught.
bye for now. :)
That's a first.
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I don't think you ever get over something like this. And it goes on and on....they can never put it behind them.
You don't. And from the very little information that you conveyed to me it is clear that Ann Eaton is still very much traumatised by this dreadful event. It must have knocked the whole family for six. I don't think anyone was cold and calculating. It would take a superman/woman to survive this kind of thing unaffected.
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That's a first.
What is?
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How many people do you think help in this cover up Patti?
Hi sagar
I think there are a handful of people keeping JB in jail. I also think there has been a grave injustice. I will try to use facts to justify why I think there was and still is a conspiracy to keep JB in jail.
I think he had a very unfair trail and the evidence against was very light indeed. There was never a full investigation at the onset and the majority of evidence and forensic test were never done and the tests that were done were shabby and not well managed....We have Sheila's hand swabs rejected on submission, had the court been aware of this, it could have been challenged in court. It should and was a vital piece of evidence, especially for DNA.
All clothing from all victims were destroyed in 1996....why? when they knew JB was still protesting his innocence...Again DNA
The sugar in the kitchen...the jury was lead to believe that this could have been on Sheila's feet. After the trial in 1991/2 AE said the sugar was contained under the table and it was later divulged that the sugar had been knocked over by one of the raid team....Had the jury known this they would understand that it would have been impossible for sugar to have been on her feet.
The point of entry and exit from the building....Jean B. tells the court that the things had been moved from near the kitchen window...this encourages the fact that entry was made form the kitchen window.....It is later established that the said window was opened by police and they had moved the items....If the jury had known this then the entry theory would have been demolished....
If Stan Jones was asked where he phoned Julie up on the day of the verdict, we would have known her whereabouts, but to this day, I do not believe this was asked. If he had been asked then it would determine whether or not she was in a NOTW hotel on the day of the verdict......this being important to the 2002 appeal.....
To this day Essex police are still withholding documents and photographs that might prove a man's innocence.....He has been trying to retrieve these documents over two decades.....If these documents were to be released, then Essex police would not be under scrutiny......
sagar there is much much more....there are the powers to be.....the removal of certain things, i wont go in to....but is all designed to keep the searcher away from finding the truth....and this may never happen in our life time....Justice for all? No such thing! Sorry this was a bit drawn out....:)
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Don't hold back. :o ;D
Both Vidvic and Hartley know the family very well. I've spoken to Vidvic and can testify he is a very honest and genuine chap.
"I haven't spoken to Hartley, but he comes across as dishonest and evil" (http://gfxlovers.com/smilies/imgs/evil/evil011.gif) (http://gfxlovers.com/smilies)
Thanks for that, yes he comes across as genuine. Hartley knows them too?
"But he comes across as the devil" (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil25.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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Yes I do.
Would JB s conviction being overturned and the fact he could most likely get his inheritance back affect you or your family in any way financially
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Don't hold back. :o ;D
"I haven't spoken to Hartley, but he comes across as dishonest and evil" (http://gfxlovers.com/smilies/imgs/evil/evil011.gif) (http://gfxlovers.com/smilies)
"But he comes across as the devil" (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil25.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
;D ;D
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Would JB s conviction being overturned and the fact he could most likely get his inheritance back affect you or your family in any way financially
No. Not in any way. Absolutely not.
Btw. It doesn't work like that and no matter how many times people tell you you repeatedly trott out the myth, he'll get his inheritance back.
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Same question for Hartley
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I know one thing,and that's it would take a superhuman barrister to get past this lot to secure Jeremy's release.
There are a lot of " wheels within wheels " with anything that includes the law,as doctors,psychiatrists,solicitors,social workers,teachers,police all work together,and I'd go as far as to say,who are all in cahoots,and unless you can pin down someone who is wholly independent of the above,then the poor man doesn't stand a chance,new evidence or not.
JB's well and truly up against a brick wall.
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Would JB s conviction being overturned and the fact he could most likely get his inheritance back affect you or your family in any way financially
Same question for Hartley
It would likely have a dramatic effect.
It would mean that this forum would probably cease to exist (unless it remained open for gloatation), which would in turn reduce the amount of time I sit in front of the computer feverishly prattling away.
Unfortunately, that would then have the knock on effect that my better half would be able to get online and start buying things (whether we needed them or not). I mean, who needs an electronic soap dispenser? ??? So yes, financially, it would certainly be a drain. :(
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So Vic
You are saying Jeremy will get his inheritance back?
Btw. It doesn't work like that and no matter how many times people tell you you repeatedly trott out the myth, he'll get his inheritance back.
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Don't hold back. :o ;D
"I haven't spoken to Hartley, but he comes across as dishonest and evil" (http://gfxlovers.com/smilies/imgs/evil/evil011.gif) (http://gfxlovers.com/smilies)
"But he comes across as the devil" (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil25.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Well as you are a very truthful man I must take your word for it. ::) ;D
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So Vic
You are saying Jeremy will get his inheritance back?
Btw. It doesn't work like that and no matter how many times people tell you you repeatedly trott out the myth, he'll get his inheritance back.
Have you ever considered taking up boxing, or kung-fu, or even just street fighting? You may find it more rewarding. :-\ Just a suggestion. :P
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Have you ever considered taking up boxing, or kung-fu, or even just street fighting? You may find it more rewarding. :-\ Just a suggestion. :P
Hartley my favourite hobby is being a truthseeker, it gives me lots of pleasure
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Hartley my favourite hobby is being a truthseeker, it gives me lots of pleasure
In which case, surely your time would be best served satisfying that pleasure, rather than attempting to start fights with members of a forum who happen to hold a different opinion to yourself (as they are quite entitled to do so).
You don't need my help in anyway in order to strive to achieve your ambitions, nor do you need to be antagonistic towards me. That goes the same for your interaction with other members of the forum, but to be fair, that's none of my business.
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Excellent Patti ;D ;D ;D
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Have you ever considered taking up boxing, or kung-fu, or even just street fighting? You may find it more rewarding. :-\ Just a suggestion. :P
Since when has any towie gal needed such interests ? dont mess with a towie gal .
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In which case, surely your time would be best served satisfying that pleasure, rather than attempting to start fights with members of a forum who happen to hold a different opinion to yourself (as they are quite entitled to do so).
You don't need my help in anyway in order to strive to achieve your ambitions, nor do you need to be antagonistic towards me. That goes the same for your interaction with other members of the forum, but to be fair, that's none of my business.
Hartley you thought you were funny this morning, you weren't at all must try harder
We are dealing with something a lot of forum members believe to be a serious MOJ
If you think this situation is a joke maybe you should join the joke forum
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Hartley you thought you were funny this morning, you weren't at all must try harder
We are dealing with something a lot of forum members believe to be a serious MOJ
If you think this situation is a joke maybe you should join the joke forum
Why should Hartley join Lamberton's forum? Why would he want to?
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Hi Maggie hope you got hold of the Olympic torch when passing you would get about £3000 to £4000 for it you would also get charged by the police for assault and theft :) :) :)
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Hartley you thought you were funny this morning, you weren't at all must try harder
We are dealing with something a lot of forum members believe to be a serious MOJ
If you think this situation is a joke maybe you should join the joke forum
Jackie, if you don't like peoples responses to you, then perhaps you should consider refraining from obtaining those responses.
I don't know what you want from me or what you hope to achieve by attempting to antagonise me. If you want a reaction I suggest you look for another victim.
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Hi Maggie hope you got hold of the Olympic torch when passing you would get about £3000 to £4000 for it you would also get charged by the police for assault and theft :) :) :)
Hi Susie, I missed it!! Had my eye on what was happening, all the advertising going past, looked away to post on forum and it was gone. :-[ :-[ :-[. Think I will survive, can always see it on tv if I want to. ;D ;D
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Jackie, if you don't like peoples responses to you, then perhaps you should consider refraining from obtaining those responses.
I don't know what you want from me or what you hope to achieve by attempting to antagonise me. If you want a reaction I suggest you look for another victim.
I certainly didn't pick on you on your own, their were four of you looking pratts
Don't try and make yourself look the victim you try and bully people all the time
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For the posters who think there has been a conspiracy to jail bamber and keep him there.
How many people do you think have conspired in the above? Could someone add up the numbers, then we can have a rough estimate.
It only needs to be a few, the ones who are controlling the withheld evidence are the ones who are controlling what the sheep below them believe.
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I certainly didn't pick on you on your own, their were four of you looking pratts
Don't try and make yourself look the victim you try and bully people all the time
Yeah, we probably should just stop speaking to one another. ::)
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We did this a few years back. Including the 2002 appeal it's over 500.
That's child's play compared with the number of people involved in the Apollo project Vic, and we all know the moon landings were faked too, right? ;)
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Hartley you would like it if I never challenged some of your bad behaviour or rude comments well you don't get off that easy I will be on your back as long as I need to
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That's child's play compared with the number of people involved in the Apollo project Vic, and we all know the moon landings were faked too, right? ;)
Yes Bob, I would like to see the phone log of the Apollo 11.....I wont ever believe they went. 8)
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I certainly didn't pick on you on your own, their were four of you looking pratts
Don't try and make yourself look the victim you try and bully people all the time
How funny a post is this?
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It was Hartley playing the victim again, are you his bodyguard now Vic and you know exactly what you were doing this morning it was pathetic
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It was Hartley playing the victim again, are you his bodyguard now Vic and you know exactly what you were doing this morning it was pathetic
I think you need to calm down.
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It was Hartley playing the victim again, are you his bodyguard now Vic and you know exactly what you were doing this morning it was pathetic
And to be frank, a hypocrite.
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Just because I take this seriously Vic and I dont want to burst your bubble I think theirs just been a new bit of evidence found so it looks like this is going away for a long time for David Boutflour
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Just because I take this seriously Vic and I dont want to burst your bubble I think theirs just been a new bit of evidence found so it looks like this is going away for a long time for David Boutflour
A very helpful contribution jackie. You're more interested in getting one over the family than justice, in my view.
Didn't you say you'd been tipped off that this was going to appeal? Don't want to burst your bubble jackie, but it didn't. I will believe any 'new' evidence when I see it.
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Yeah, we probably should just stop speaking to one another. ::)
I still think this holds up pretty well as a sound piece of advice. :-\
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I still think this holds up pretty well as a sound piece of advice. :-\
If you dont want to debate on this forum there's one across the road that you will be made welcome there
Your sounding like you can't handle my questions
All of this just because I pulled you for taking the piss this morning
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If you dont want to debate on this forum there's one across the road that you will be made welcome there
Your sounding like you can't handle my questions
All of this just because I pulled you for taking the piss this morning
Jackie, any chance of you stopping goading?
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If you dont want to debate on this forum there's one across the road that you will be made welcome there
Hartley has made it clear that he wants nothing to do with Lamberton or his forum. We certainly do not want to encourage our members to go there.
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If you dont want to debate on this forum there's one across the road that you will be made welcome there
Your sounding like you can't handle my questions
All of this just because I pulled you for taking the piss this morning
You asked both of us if we would be affected financially by bamber's release. We answered your question. Maybe you would answer one of mine?
If bamber loved farming, why did he spend so little time being a farmer?
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Hi ngb it is bad enough that I have defected without sending Hartley after me. :) ;) ;)
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Hartley has made it clear that he wants nothing to do with Lamberton or his forum. We certainly do not want to encourage our members to go there.
I've also made it very clear that I am doing my absolute utmost not to get involved in these types of petty arguments.
However, there is only so much goading and provocation that one can endure.
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Hartley you are always in trouble for goading look what happened to your posts last week and you have been banned and you have called Keira a racist do you want me to go on
You are the main goader on this forum >:( >:( >:(
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Hartley you are always in trouble for goading look what happened to your posts last week and you have been banned and you have called Keira a racist do you want me to go on
You are the main goader on this forum >:( >:( >:(
Oh, okay then.
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Hi Hartley How cool is the symbol on the screen you must be posh :) :) :)
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I knew you would never leave you just have to learn you can't win every argument
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I knew you would never leave you just have to learn you can't win every argument
Leave where, or what? And what argument can't I win, I'm not arguing, surely that accomplishes the 'not winning' part? ???
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It's been investigated 3 times by 3 different police forces.
Very true Vidvic...i seem to remember the same happened to the Birmingham 6 ,Guildford 4 and the Bridgewater 3 and look what happened to them!!!!
Corruption at the highest levels end of!!!!