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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 09:53:PM

Title: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 09:53:PM
In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 09:55:PM
Anybody got any ideas who the hitchhiker was?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: Nuala on March 12, 2012, 10:02:PM
Anybody got any ideas who the hitchhiker was?



Fraser Bell?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mertol22 on March 12, 2012, 10:03:PM
Sometimes Mike you have to take a deep breath and dive in the pool to see what you can find, the same person seen running away that that night from WHF ?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:07:PM


Fraser Bell?

Interesting...
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:08:PM
Sometimes Mike you have to take a deep breath and dive in the pool to see what you can find, the same person seen running away that that night from WHF ?

These were my original views when I first came across this statement many years ago...

I thought more along the lines that this could be the person seen by the police, described as a silhouetted figure at the bedroom window?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mertol22 on March 12, 2012, 10:11:PM
Leaving somewhere often raises more questions than arriving, why would he hitchike ? how did he get there in the first place and he knew about the events .
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:13:PM
Leaving somewhere often raises more questions than arriving, why would he hitchike ? how did he get there in the first place and he knew about the events .

Yes...

Why was he in such a hurry to leave the country, if he had been staying on a farm where the family he was staying with, had all been murdered, that very day?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:15:PM
Yes...

Why was he in such a hurry to leave the country, if he had been staying on a farm where the family he was staying with, had all been murdered, that very day?

the contents of this statement make me feel uneasy about the whole affair, but I don't know why?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:18:PM
What about, Ralph Neville, being the hitchhiker?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mertol22 on March 12, 2012, 10:19:PM
The chances of finding him if he is still alive is like tracking down a swiss numbered account , not impossible has jeremy got anything on this mike ?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:20:PM
The more I think about it, the more this hitchhiker falls into the radar of suspicion, as if he knew something he ought really be speaking to the police about?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:24:PM
The chances of finding him if he is still alive is like tracking down a swiss numbered account , not impossible has jeremy got anything on this mike ?

Well, I think Jeremy is convinced that Sheila did it, and that she then took her own life, but we have previously discussed the possibility of identifying the hitchhiker, and it came down to the hitchhiker being Ralph Neville, not Fraser bell. Jeremy told me on numerous occasions that Fraser-Bell did not stay with his family at whf, he says he stayed with the relatives on the caravan park, but that Ralph Neville stayed at WHF in a camper van?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: andrea on March 12, 2012, 10:25:PM
Yes...

Why was he in such a hurry to leave the country, if he had been staying on a farm where the family he was staying with, had all been murdered, that very day?


He didnt say that he had stopped at WHf, he said he had spoken to a reporter and the reporter had mentioned the murders. This fella didnt even know where WHF was.
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mertol22 on March 12, 2012, 10:26:PM
Someone knows of that you can be certain.
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:26:PM
Well, I think Jeremy is convinced that Sheila did it, and that she then took her own life, but we have previously discussed the possibility of identifying the hitchhiker, and it came down to the hitchhiker being Ralph Neville, not Fraser bell. Jeremy told me on numerous occasions that Fraser-Bell did not stay with his family at whf, he says he stayed with the relatives on the caravan park, but that Ralph Neville stayed at WHF in a camper van?

When I questioned Jeremy further about Ralph Neville, it appears that he fled from South Africa because of violence and shootings
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:31:PM

He didnt say that he had stopped at WHf, he said he had spoken to a reporter and the reporter had mentioned the murders. This fella didnt even know where WHF was.

Well, its all down to interpretation, and what I am saying is that when I spoke to Jeremy about the contents of this statement, we came around to believing that this hitchhiker could have been Ralph Neville, but I sensed that in actual fact the hitchhiker could have been a friend of Ralph Neville, not Ralph Neville himself?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:39:PM
I have delved in to the file and can find very little information about Ralph Neville, or anybody who  was staying at whf, as a guest, living in his camper van?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:40:PM
Police say very little about Ralph Neville stay at whf at the material time, but Jeremy says he was staying at the farm in a camper van at the material time...
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:41:PM
Was Ralph Neville the scruffy looking bunched up man seen walking away from the farmhouse, as reported by Kim Sengupta in her daily Express article?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: Nuala on March 12, 2012, 10:42:PM

He didnt say that he had stopped at WHf, he said he had spoken to a reporter and the reporter had mentioned the murders. This fella didnt even know where WHF was.


Fraser-Bell stopped at WHF alright, until he had a bit of woman trouble and was then sent to stay at the Osea campsite. He was South African and was born in 1965.
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: Nuala on March 12, 2012, 10:43:PM
Was Ralph Neville the scruffy looking bunched up man seen walking away from the farmhouse, as reported by Kim Sengupta in her daily Express article?


Hmmm? Though he was too old to be the hitch hiker.
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:45:PM
I have delved in to the file and can find very little information about Ralph Neville, or anybody who  was staying at whf, as a guest, living in his camper van?

But...

as a matter of interest police obtained details of all the campers who were staying at nearby Prentice farm, and Ralph Neville and his companion could have been amongst them?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:46:PM

Hmmm? Though he was too old to be the hitch hiker.

Yes, this is what led me to suspect that the hitchhiker could have been a companion of Ralph Neville, not Ralph Neville, himself?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mertol22 on March 12, 2012, 10:48:PM
Was Ralph Neville the scruffy looking bunched up man seen walking away from the farmhouse, as reported by Kim Sengupta in her daily Express article?
A one day old beard growth may have some bearing here, were people more observant then ? someone was you dont see or note for nothing.
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 12, 2012, 10:52:PM
Hitchhiker had been staying on a farm with a friend - was tjis reference to the hitchhiker being a friend of Jeremy's, or Ralph Neville, or whoever?
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: Nuala on March 12, 2012, 11:00:PM
Fraser-Bell was an agricultural student at Cirencester Ag College - where Robert Boutflour snr was a lecturer.
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: Nuala on March 12, 2012, 11:02:PM
But...

as a matter of interest police obtained details of all the campers who were staying at nearby Prentice farm, and Ralph Neville and his companion could have been amongst them?


Fraser-Bell was at WHF, then the Osea campsite.
Title: Re: In the footsteps of the unidentified hitchhiker:-
Post by: mike tesko on March 13, 2012, 04:12:AM

Fraser-Bell was at WHF, then the Osea campsite.

But where did Ralph Neville stay at the material time?