Jeremy Bamber Forum
JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: sc82 on February 08, 2012, 06:28:PM
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I made the mistake of venturing over to the dark side and checking out John Lamberton's "Miscarriage of Justice" site. There was a thread on there that made mention of blood being found in a Citroen car Jeremy owned or used at the time of the murders. Is that true? Can anyone shed further light on this?
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I made the mistake of venturing over to the dark side and checking out John Lamberton's "Miscarriage of Justice" site. There was a thread on there that made mention of blood being found in a Citroen car Jeremy owned or used at the time of the murders. Is that true? Can anyone shed further light on this?
I don't remember that as being mentioned at the trial? I think they must be writing a novel over there?
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EP looked for forensic evidence that could directly link Jeremy to the crimes and found nothing useful, else it would have been used at his trial.
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Here's a link if you really want to go there! http://miscarriageofjustice.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=bamber&action=display&thread=397 (http://miscarriageofjustice.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=bamber&action=display&thread=397)
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Reader, I was under that impression too - my understanding was there was nothing forensic linking Jeremy to the crime. I was just curious after i read that thread
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Here's a link if you really want to go there! http://miscarriageofjustice.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=bamber&action=display&thread=397 (http://miscarriageofjustice.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=bamber&action=display&thread=397)
Now would I willingly step into a cess pit? ::)
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I sure wish i hadn't. Its just vile. I don't understand why,if no one on that site believes he's innocent (which is the impression i get) they even feature his case?
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Now would I willingly step into a cess pit? ::)
ive never been on Lambertons site and i have no plans to, he really is all twisted up that guy, shona fell for the trap.
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if blood was found in his car then surely it would have been used at the trial.
it would be a pretty crap prosecutor that manged to overlook that.
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SC82
I just took a look at the above mentioned site and was astonished to see it carries adverts,
is this the way to promote their message, if it is, then I will boycott products or services provided
by their advertisers. As for his description of people on this forum as a "legion of rejects from planet
of the apes " and " sycophantic loonies, " if I didn't consider him insane and that is the only way I
can sympathetically consider his actions, I would describe him as evil. If he is the victim of a miscarriage
of justice, surely it is better not to alienate justice campaigners.
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I've never been there, or intend going there, although some on here have suggested that's where I should go!!
I think this forum is GGrrrrrrreat as Tony (the tiger) would have said!!
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From what I can recall of our conversations, there was no evidence found in the car at all to link him with the murders. It was clean.
I do remember specifically asking about this.
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From what I can recall of our conversations, there was no evidence found in the car at all to link him with the murders. It was clean.
I do remember specifically asking about this.
I'm not deliberately trying to twist this, but the prosecution did not persue the possibility that JB used his car for the murders.
It was the infamous bicycle that all accomplished murderers use! and no blood was found on the bike or any bike tracks found - Rivlin seems to have overlooked this aspect as well ::)
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if any blood was found in the car i think it would form a big part of the prosecutions case.
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I sure wish i hadn't. Its just vile. I don't understand why,if no one on that site believes he's innocent (which is the impression i get) they even feature his case?
And they call our forum boring because we haven't many anti bamber members? ::)
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I've never been there, or intend going there, although some on here have suggested that's where I should go!!
No no Nick. You misunderstood. They told you to go to hell. ;D (only joking)
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The "alleged" blood being found on the passenger car seat of the citroen and on an article of Jeremys clothing is,if I remember correctly,mentioned in Clare Powells book?I have never heard of it anywhere else and also,if true,the prosecution would have surely mentioned it in court?
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No no Nick. You misunderstood. They told you to go to hell. ;D (only joking)
Ah! that's not so bad then!
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The "alleged" blood being found on the passenger car seat of the citroen and on an article of Jeremys clothing is,if I remember correctly,mentioned in Clare Powells book?I have never heard of it anywhere else and also,if true,the prosecution would have surely mentioned it in court?
That's an interesting point to consider though? If it was true about this blood in the car that rules out the bike.
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That's an interesting point to consider though? If it was true about this blood in the car that rules out the bike.
I'm still baffled as to how the bike was ruled in!
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I'm still baffled as to how the bike was ruled in!
I think it was one of those things that Robert Boutflour stated in his silly diary?
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I think it was one of those things that Robert Boutflour stated in his silly diary?
I know I go on a bit about Rivlin, but no blood (or any other evidence) on the bike; no tyre tracks - nothing - and yet the prosecution presented this as the form of transpot used after killing 5 members of your family - and Rivlin could not undermine the prosection on the transport issue - amazing!
I would like to know what the Jury actually thought of this - it could be that the Jury having been swayed by the other "evidence" (mainly the silencer) simply accepted the bike theory?
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I know I go on a bit about Rivlin, but no blood (or any other evidence) on the bike; no tyre tracks - nothing - and yet the prosecution presented this as the form of transpot used after killing 5 members of your family - and Rivlin could not undermine the prosection on the transport issue - amazing!
I would like to know what the Jury actually thought of this - it could be that the Jury having been swayed by the other "evidence" (mainly the silencer) simply accepted the bike theory?
I don't like saying this but Jeremy's defence was (by hindsight) appalling. Perhaps they simply thought that the prosecution's case was so weak that Jeremy would be found not guilty? Until the Judge's summing up and I think that his words added great weight to the prosecution's case?
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I don't like saying this but Jeremy's defence was (by hindsight) appalling. Perhaps they simply thought that the prosecution's case was so weak that Jeremy would be found not guilty? Until the Judge's summing up and I think that his words added great weight to the prosecution's case?
I have raised this before; but I have a slight niggle that suggests to me maybe even Rivlin did not quite believe the JB story. This has been refuted on the forum.
Clearly any defense lawyer has to promote the fact that they believe the defendant innocent as coming out later with "I always thought he/she was guilty" will clearly enable any subsequent defense team to point out this obvious weakness in the original defences stance on the case.
I.e the defence has to be seen to do their best for their client!
Circuit Bench Retirement - Rivlin QC
01 September 2011
His Honour Judge Geoffrey Rivlin QC retires as a Senior Circuit Judge on 1 September 2011.
As Rivlin is now retired (and a member of the public) it would be interesting to see if he pops in supporting JB's ongoing appeal (afterall he should have significant knowledge of the case)?
Do you think S Mck has had any contact with Rivlin?
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I have raised this before; but I have a slight niggle that suggests to me maybe even Rivlin did not quite believe the JB story. This has been refuted on the forum.
Clearly any defense lawyer has to promote the fact that they believe the defendant innocent as coming out later with "I always thought he/she was guilty" will clearly enable any subsequent defense team to point out this obvious weakness in the original defences stance on the case.
I.e the defence has to be seen to do their best for their client!
Circuit Bench Retirement - Rivlin QC
01 September 2011
His Honour Judge Geoffrey Rivlin QC retires as a Senior Circuit Judge on 1 September 2011.
As Rivlin is now retired (and a member of the public) it would be interesting to see if he pops in supporting JB's ongoing appeal (afterall he should have significant knowledge of the case)?
Do you think S Mck has had any contact with Rivlin?
I do not believe Simon McKay has been in contact with Geoffrey Rivlin, but Jeremy's previous solicitors did contact him and he was very helpful to the defence, as was his junior at the trial Ed Lawson.