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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: campion on February 06, 2012, 03:15:PM

Title: DC 1470
Post by: campion on February 06, 2012, 03:15:PM
      Last year I was following up on the suicide note and got through to the consultancy campaign.
It's reference was DRH/42, they informed me that it was found on a bedside table in Sheila's room
by DC1470. They also said they found a second version with note attached but couldn't be sure if that
was DRH/42. Does anyone know who DC1470 is please ?     
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi) on February 06, 2012, 03:55:PM
According to www.sleuthingforjustice.com it is DC 1470 David Robert Hammersley (SOC).
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: campion on February 06, 2012, 04:35:PM
    If Hammersley found the note in Sheila's room on a bedside table, how did it manage to find it's
way to her parent's bedroom and push itself inside the bible next to Sheila ? And then disappear
without being photographed by Bird ?       
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: HMEssex on February 06, 2012, 05:01:PM
    If Hammersley found the note in Sheila's room on a bedside table, how did it manage to find it's
way to her parent's bedroom and push itself inside the bible next to Sheila ? And then disappear
without being photographed by Bird ?     




Maybe it was this that caused him so much distress and said would cause the breakdown of his marriage!
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: campion on February 06, 2012, 05:08:PM
   HM Essex,
                    Is Hammersley the same person who broke down When the City of London Police
 did their inquiry and appears in the Dickinson Report ?       
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: HMEssex on February 06, 2012, 05:30:PM
   HM Essex,
                    Is Hammersley the same person who broke down When the City of London Police
 did their inquiry and appears in the Dickinson Report ?       



I believe so.  Although I'm just guessing at what caused him to break down.  It's been discussed before and not sure if the reason was discovered.
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: campion on February 06, 2012, 05:34:PM
          I have just looked through Hartley's archive and seen the two pieces on Hammersley, was he
  the one who took the hand swab evidence to Huntingdon forensics lab knowing they would be
  rejected, if so that is peculiar seeing as he was a scene of crime officer that found the suicide note ?     
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: campion on February 06, 2012, 05:38:PM
      Does anyone know if Hammersley appeared for the prosecution at the 1986 trial ?  And what was
 Hammersley's role in relation to Simpson and Stan Jones ?       
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: HMEssex on February 06, 2012, 05:40:PM
          I have just looked through Hartley's archive and seen the two pieces on Hammersley, was he
  the one who took the hand swab evidence to Huntingdon forensics lab knowing they would be
  rejected, if so that is peculiar seeing as he was a scene of crime officer that found the suicide note ?   




The whole case (Police 'evidence') is peculiar, Campion!

Regarding hand swab etc, do what I do and put 'Hammersley' into search on main page and it will take you to all the threads/comments about him.

Mike's the expert on all this.
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: campion on February 06, 2012, 05:51:PM
     HM Essex,
                      Thanks for speedy reply, Because I didn't know until Janet's confirmation that Hammersley
  found the suicide note, He has obviously played a major role in this cover-up and perverted the course
  of Justice. Can Simon McKay subpoena evidence from Hammersley ?
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: HMEssex on February 06, 2012, 06:11:PM
     HM Essex,
                      Thanks for speedy reply, Because I didn't know until Janet's confirmation that Hammersley
  found the suicide note, He has obviously played a major role in this cover-up and perverted the course
  of Justice. Can Simon McKay subpoena evidence from Hammersley ?




Oooh, I don't know, Campion!

It's not just him, though, is it? 

However, the way he broke down could mean he has a conscience, or was he just worried about himself?  But we still don't really know the actual reason he was so distressed.
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: campion on February 06, 2012, 06:34:PM
     If all the latest evidence is correct and Hammersley was involved in the conspiracy from the start
ie putting the suicide note in the bible, then I presume following who ever he was in direct contact
with and who he was taking instructions from and reporting back to should bring new leads. Does
anyone know whether he worked directly for Essex police or was he drafted in from another force ?   
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: Reader on February 08, 2012, 06:36:PM
According to this publication (http://www.essex.police.uk/museum/thelaw/n_9608lw.pdf), Essex Police also extends its good wishes to the following officers who are retiring: . . . Sgt David Hammersley, Chelmsford SOC, 24.years (25.8.96).
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi) on February 08, 2012, 06:59:PM
According to this publication (http://www.essex.police.uk/museum/thelaw/n_9608lw.pdf), Essex Police also extends its good wishes to the following officers who are retiring: . . . Sgt David Hammersley, Chelmsford SOC, 24.years (25.8.96).

Interesting how you have access to this publication. Any chance of you sharing with us issues that feature the Bamber case?
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: campion on February 08, 2012, 07:12:PM
  Reader, Great find, is the Robert Miller mentioned above Hammersley, the same one that attended
  WHF, if he is, then it's truly great piece of research.     
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: Reader on February 08, 2012, 11:21:PM
It's quite likely that it's the same person, yes.

There's also this 1993 Monty jets off to Australia article (on page 10) (http://www.essex.police.uk/museum/thelaw/n_9309lw.pdf): Chelmsford Traffic Inspector "Monty" Montgomery is clocking up a few miles following his retirement at the end of last month. He jetted off with his wife on September 15 to spend six months in Australia, visiting Malaya and Borneo en route, the latter for a three day trek by canoe followed by three days hunting in the jungle. Former colleagues from traffic and firearms joined Monty for a function at Lawn Lane community centre in Chelmsford to mark his retirement after 30 years' service. Insp Montgomery served for 17 years as a firearms officer, at Pc, Sergeant and Inspector level. He was firearms commander at the White House Farm massacre, where Jeremy Bamber had murdered five members of his family. He also directed the firearms observations following two armed raids at Frinton which led to the shooting of Pc Bill Bishop in 1984, and was operationally involved in the Ramsey siege in 1979 which resulted in an armed youth, Paul Howe, being shot by the police. During his service he carried out a firearms study in Australia, and attended an FBI course in America.

Another item (http://www.essex.police.uk/museum/thelaw/n_0402lw.pdf): When Dc Steve Myall joined Essex Police over 30 years ago little did he realise that he would be involved in one of the most notorious cases in our history. Steve was one of the first officers at White House Farm, Tolleshunt D'Arcy after the murder of five members of one family. Much later in his career, he volunteered to go to Rwanda to investigate the mass genocide. Expecting to stay a few months he ended up there for over three years, a sacrifice for a home-loving man. Steve is not retiring completely, he has joined the MOD Police.
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi) on February 09, 2012, 12:13:PM
Thanks for posting reader.....very interesting. I want to get a better picture of the main/crucial officers involved in the case and what happened to them afterwards. This is great stuff!

The article on the career and retirement of DCC Peter Simpson is a good find too!

I wonder if the Chief Supt Julia Jeapes mentioned in this article http://www.essex.police.uk/museum/thelaw/n_0402lw.pdf is the same Julia Jeapes who said she saw a rifle at the window at WHF?
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: campion on February 09, 2012, 01:25:PM
     Reader, As you are accomplished at this type of research, The Law issue that mentions Hammersley
 and Miller also had an article and picture about an Andy Hayman. This is moving away from the topic
 a bit, but what I wondered was, was he the same person who worked for the Met and was interviewed
 by the commons select committee about phone hacking at the News of the World ?     
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: Reader on February 09, 2012, 08:21:PM
The same Julia Jeapes, as this edition of The Law (http://www.essex.police.uk/museum/thelaw/n_0505lw.pdf) (page 8 article on her "retirement") shows.

The same Andy Hayman also, as everything matches, including the photograph (allowing for age).

Regarding Peter Simpson, who died in September 2008 (http://www.essex.police.uk/museum/thelaw/n_0810lw.pdf), "Peter was a man who loved his singing, and will be remembered not only for compering our concerts but for the short comical songs that he used to burst into during his introductions. He will indeed be a hard act to follow." Also see this article (page 5) (http://www.essex.police.uk/museum/thelaw/n_0903lw.pdf).
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: campion on February 10, 2012, 11:39:AM
        Reader, I can't remember what issue of The Law I saw it in, one of them has a piece about
   Delgado as a community officer in the Maldon/Southminster district.   
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: Reader on February 10, 2012, 06:14:PM
Do you recall anything else that the article mentioned? Could it have been another officer? There is a photograph of Pc  Delgado in the issue I linked to regarding Inspector Montgomery.
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: campion on February 10, 2012, 06:19:PM
     Not much other than a photo of two police officers with some members of the public   
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: Reader on February 11, 2012, 09:58:AM
Did you check the photo I mentioned above? The accompanying text mentions Maldon and Southminster.
Title: Re: DC 1470
Post by: campion on February 11, 2012, 04:54:PM
     Reader, just this minute checked the link, yes it is the one, brilliant