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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: slaters on January 17, 2012, 11:43:AM

Title: BBC NEWS: Jeremy loses final appeal against whole-life tariff to ECHR
Post by: slaters on January 17, 2012, 11:43:AM
"MURDERERS LOSE APPEAL AGAINST WHOLE LIFE TARIFF

Britain's most dangerous criminals can be kept behind bars for the rest of their lives, judges at the European Court of Human Rights have ruled.

Killers Jeremy Bamber, Peter Moore and Douglas Vinter had asked the court to rule on whole life sentences.

The murderers said condemning them to die in prison amounts to "inhuman or degrading treatment". They argued all sentences should be regularly reviewed.

The Ministry of Justice said the government welcomed this decision.

Bamber was jailed for shooting five members of his family dead in Essex in 1986.

He has always protested his innocence, claiming his schizophrenic sister shot the victims before turning the gun on herself at their farmhouse at Tolleshunt D'Arcy."

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16591164 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16591164)
Title: Re: BBC NEWS: Jeremy loses final appeal against whole-life tariff to ECHR
Post by: andrea on January 17, 2012, 11:58:AM
Jb said he will be dead next time he leaves jail, is he not hopefull of an appeal?
Title: Re: BBC NEWS: Jeremy loses final appeal against whole-life tariff to ECHR
Post by: nugnug on January 17, 2012, 12:10:PM
i dont think it would have made any difference if he had won it.
Title: Re: BBC NEWS: Jeremy loses final appeal against whole-life tariff to ECHR
Post by: andrea on January 17, 2012, 12:13:PM
You mean "won" nugnug, sorry about that, couldnt resist ;)
Title: Re: BBC NEWS: Jeremy loses final appeal against whole-life tariff to ECHR
Post by: nugnug on January 17, 2012, 12:18:PM
thats what i typed look
Title: Re: BBC NEWS: Jeremy loses final appeal against whole-life tariff to ECHR
Post by: sc82 on January 17, 2012, 12:20:PM
i dont think it would have made any difference if he had won it.

To be fair it wouldn't have made much of a difference. He wouldn't have been released unless he was willing to admit his guilt and show remorse to the parole board. Which he's not very likely to do.
Title: Re: BBC NEWS: Jeremy loses final appeal against whole-life tariff to ECHR
Post by: andrea on January 17, 2012, 12:26:PM
thats what i typed look


yes you corrected it at 18mins past  ;)
Title: Re: BBC NEWS: Jeremy loses final appeal against whole-life tariff to ECHR
Post by: ngb1066 on January 17, 2012, 12:40:PM
Jb said he will be dead next time he leaves jail, is he not hopefull of an appeal?

Jeremy remains very hopeful that he will secure a further appeal and succeed in overturning his convictions in 2012.  He is philosophical about losing in the ECHR - that case was very much a secondary issue for him. 

Title: Re: BBC NEWS: Jeremy loses final appeal against whole-life tariff to ECHR
Post by: grahameb on January 17, 2012, 12:50:PM
I stand amazed actually. That the courts can impose a whole life tariff on someone who was given a specific term of imprisonment without further evidence presented that warranted a change in sentence? It seems to be much easier for the government to impose greater sentences upon people without any kind of hearing than appealing against a conviction?
Title: Re: BBC NEWS: Jeremy loses final appeal against whole-life tariff to ECHR
Post by: nugnug on January 17, 2012, 01:34:PM
if his guilty then i cant say that he dosent deserve to spend the rest of his life in jail and when setting a tariff they dont take claims of innocence into account they assume you are guilty.