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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on January 15, 2012, 06:19:PM

Title: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: mike tesko on January 15, 2012, 06:19:PM
Pathologist,

Details of his site:-

(1) - http://www.petervanezis.com/
(2) - http://www.petervanezis.com/high_profile_cases.html
(3) - http://www.petervanezis.com/Publications.html
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: mike tesko on January 15, 2012, 06:22:PM
Pathologist,

Details of his site:-

(1) - http://www.petervanezis.com/
(2) - http://www.petervanezis.com/high_profile_cases.html
(3) - http://www.petervanezis.com/Publications.html

For some reason he doesn't like to promote the idea that he was the pathologist in the case of the whf murders/ and a suicide...

I wonder why?
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: Roch on January 15, 2012, 07:10:PM
He worked on the Tyrolean Iceman?  They don't come much more high profile than that.  He doesn't list loads of examples, so WHF could be omitted simply due to that.
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: Roch on January 15, 2012, 07:21:PM
I wonder what he discussed on Desert Island Discs?
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: mike tesko on January 15, 2012, 07:27:PM
He worked on the Tyrolean Iceman?  They don't come much more high profile than that.  He doesn't list loads of examples, so WHF could be omitted simply due to that.

Yes, of course, or it could be omitted because he never actually said that in his view Sheila was murdered, but did say that it was feasible that she committed suicide...
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: mike tesko on January 15, 2012, 07:39:PM
Post mortem lividity:-

(1) - http://www.mondofacto.com/facts/dictionary?postmortem+lividity
(2) - http://wordinfo.info/unit/1201
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: mike tesko on January 15, 2012, 07:41:PM
Post mortem lividity:-

(1) - http://www.mondofacto.com/facts/dictionary?postmortem+lividity

Discoloration of skin within "one and a half hours to two hours" after death -  now, my point is, what did Venezis make of the colour iof the skin at the time the crime scene photographs were taken by PC Bird, of Sheila's body on the floor, compared to the c;pour iof the skin when he performed the autopsy upon her body later that afternoon?
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: mike tesko on January 15, 2012, 07:45:PM
To me...

the colour of Sheila's skin was and is not consistent with her having already been dead some seven hours or more before PC bird took these pictures of Sheila on the bedroom floor:-

Nothing anybody can say, will change or alter my mind, about this...
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: mike tesko on January 15, 2012, 07:49:PM
Venezis needs to look at and examine these pictures and explain what the colour of the skin at this time tells him in his expert opinion?

He should not be allowed to squirm his way out of answering such a proposition, in my opinion...
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: mike tesko on January 15, 2012, 07:51:PM
Lets put it another way...

there is no way that anybody can say that the skin on Sheila has started to turn purplish in keeping with her supposedly having already been dead for over seven hours by the time PC Bird took these pictures, if i am wrong will somebody please correct me?
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: mike tesko on January 15, 2012, 07:52:PM
Lets put it another way...

there is no way that anybody can say that the skin on Sheila has started to turn purplish in keeping with her supposedly having already been dead for over seven hours by the time PC Bird took these pictures, if i am wrong will somebody please correct me?

Is there anybody out there that says the colour of the skin in these pictures is purplish?
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: mike tesko on January 15, 2012, 08:25:PM
Somebody ought to send the following pictures to Peter Venezis, and ask him what he thinks about the timing of Sheila Caffells death:-

Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: bob on January 15, 2012, 10:11:PM
Mike - what do you get out of repeatedly posting pictures of a slaughtered girl?

These pictures are already available on at least 30 other threads. There isn't anybody on this forum who hasn't already seen them over and over again.

Sorry, but I find it a bit sick.
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: Chochokeira on January 15, 2012, 10:42:PM
Mike - what do you get out of repeatedly posting pictures of a slaughtered girl?

These pictures are already available on at least 30 other threads. There isn't anybody on this forum who hasn't already seen them over and over again.

Sorry, but I find it a bit sick.


Did you know Sheila, Bob?
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: bob on January 15, 2012, 11:00:PM

Did you know Sheila, Bob?
I wish I had.
Perhaps she wouldn't be dead now  :(
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: grahameb on January 15, 2012, 11:06:PM
I wish I had.
Perhaps she wouldn't be dead now  :(
Perhaps we all feel like that Bob?
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: bob on January 15, 2012, 11:09:PM
Perhaps we all feel like that Bob?
One way or another I think that's something we can all agree on Grahame.

Have we not seen enough of the pictures though? Can they not be archived somewhere and just linked to, so we don't have to have them repeatedly posted?
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: grahameb on January 15, 2012, 11:24:PM
One way or another I think that's something we can all agree on Grahame.

Have we not seen enough of the pictures though? Can they not be archived somewhere and just linked to, so we don't have to have them repeatedly posted?
Yes I don't like to see them continually posted. The poor girl doesn't seem to have any peace even in death? Let's hope she is at peace.
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: mertol22 on January 15, 2012, 11:33:PM
The pictures of Sheila are upsetting, even more so as she died a long time ago and not forgetting the rest of the family, perhaps if Jeremy wins his appeal then they can go into an archive , on the other hand it would be not seeking the truth if the pictures stopped on threads postings, lets hope we dont have to wait much longer.
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: Chochokeira on January 15, 2012, 11:49:PM
The pictures of Sheila are upsetting, even more so as she died a long time ago and not forgetting the rest of the family, perhaps if Jeremy wins his appeal then they can go into an archive , on the other hand it would be not seeking the truth if the pictures stopped on threads postings, lets hope we dont have to wait much longer.


I feel that, as long as Sheila's brother is wrongly convicted of the murder of Sheila and the rest of his immediate family, and unjustly imprisoned for this, Sheila does not rest in peace. I would prefer, however, if there was simply a link to archive photographs, for Sheila's sake, and for ours.
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: tyler on January 16, 2012, 12:25:AM

I feel that, as long as Sheila's brother is wrongly convicted of the murder of Sheila and the rest of his immediate family, and unjustly imprisoned for this, Sheila does not rest in peace. I would prefer, however, if there was simply a link to archive photographs, for Sheila's sake, and for ours.

Agreed.Then members have the option to view or not to view.
Title: Re: Pathologist, Peter Venezis
Post by: mike tesko on January 16, 2012, 07:38:PM
Let the pictures everyone is complaining about be a constant reminder that the police stage managed Sheila's body and that they blamed Jeremy for doing it...