Jeremy Bamber Forum
JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: Blodwynflower on November 24, 2011, 06:23:PM
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Good evening all
Other than Jeremy, how many other prisoners in the United Kingdom have had a whole life tariff imposed after receiving their original sentence?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_with_whole-life_tariffs
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Many thanks Petey.
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From article think that implies there are currently 16 prisoners who have had whole life sentences determined by Home secretary after their trial. As well as numerous others who have been given whole life sentences by the judge at trial.
Think JB is only whole life prisoner to maintain innocence.
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From article think that implies there are currently 16 prisoners who have had whole life sentences determined by Home secretary after their trial. As well as numerous others who have been given whole life sentences by the judge at trial.
Think JB is only whole life prisoner to maintain innocence.
I believe that's true, Petey. Jeremy's insistence on his innocence, coupled with his refusal to undergo rehabilitation and therapy, may have been instrumental in keeping him in prison. If Jeremy had confessed - albeit a false confession - had he feigned remorse and agreed to treatment, perhaps he would have been freed by now.
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From article think that implies there are currently 16 prisoners who have had whole life sentences determined by Home secretary after their trial. As well as numerous others who have been given whole life sentences by the judge at trial.
Think JB is only whole life prisoner to maintain innocence.
I believe that's true, Petey. Jeremy's insistence on his innocence, coupled with his refusal to undergo rehabilitation and therapy, may have been instrumental in keeping him in prison. If Jeremy had confessed - albeit a false confession - had he feigned remorse and agreed to treatment, perhaps he would have been freed by now.
Chocho, This is a view held by many , he could have been released already as he has already served a life sentence, as things are now Jeremy has to prove he is innocent , one huge mountain to climb.
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From article think that implies there are currently 16 prisoners who have had whole life sentences determined by Home secretary after their trial. As well as numerous others who have been given whole life sentences by the judge at trial.
Think JB is only whole life prisoner to maintain innocence.
I believe that's true, Petey. Jeremy's insistence on his innocence, coupled with his refusal to undergo rehabilitation and therapy, may have been instrumental in keeping him in prison. If Jeremy had confessed - albeit a false confession - had he feigned remorse and agreed to treatment, perhaps he would have been freed by now.
Chocho, This is a view held by many , he could have been released already as he has already served a life sentence, as things are now Jeremy has to prove he is innocent , one huge mountain to climb.
Undoubtedly. Prison sentences are both about retribution and rehabillitation. By not accepting he is guilty, then JB cannot possibly be rehabilitated, so his release would thus partly defeat the object of imprisonment. Obviously given that I believe he is innocent, there is no way he should feign his guilt, which sadly makes it far harder for him to be released and makes him ever more reliant on the CCRC.
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From article think that implies there are currently 16 prisoners who have had whole life sentences determined by Home secretary after their trial. As well as numerous others who have been given whole life sentences by the judge at trial.
Think JB is only whole life prisoner to maintain innocence.
I believe that's true, Petey. Jeremy's insistence on his innocence, coupled with his refusal to undergo rehabilitation and therapy, may have been instrumental in keeping him in prison. If Jeremy had confessed - albeit a false confession - had he feigned remorse and agreed to treatment, perhaps he would have been freed by now.
Chocho, This is a view held by many , he could have been released already as he has already served a life sentence, as things are now Jeremy has to prove he is innocent , one huge mountain to climb.
...but I don't believe it's the evidence alone that keeps JB incarcerated!
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From article think that implies there are currently 16 prisoners who have had whole life sentences determined by Home secretary after their trial. As well as numerous others who have been given whole life sentences by the judge at trial.
Think JB is only whole life prisoner to maintain innocence.
I believe that's true, Petey. Jeremy's insistence on his innocence, coupled with his refusal to undergo rehabilitation and therapy, may have been instrumental in keeping him in prison. If Jeremy had confessed - albeit a false confession - had he feigned remorse and agreed to treatment, perhaps he would have been freed by now.
Chocho, This is a view held by many , he could have been released already as he has already served a life sentence, as things are now Jeremy has to prove he is innocent , one huge mountain to climb.
...but I don't believe it's the evidence alone that keeps JB incarcerated!
People are kept in prison if they fail to admit to their crimes. You will find that on the whole those who admit to the offences of which they are found guilty are far more likely to be released than those who continue to protest their innocence. It is as if the state needs them to admit to their crime and show a will to change is a very important step. This apparently is supposed to show that they are no longer a threat to society.
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From article think that implies there are currently 16 prisoners who have had whole life sentences determined by Home secretary after their trial. As well as numerous others who have been given whole life sentences by the judge at trial.
Think JB is only whole life prisoner to maintain innocence.
I believe that's true, Petey. Jeremy's insistence on his innocence, coupled with his refusal to undergo rehabilitation and therapy, may have been instrumental in keeping him in prison. If Jeremy had confessed - albeit a false confession - had he feigned remorse and agreed to treatment, perhaps he would have been freed by now.
Chocho, This is a view held by many , he could have been released already as he has already served a life sentence, as things are now Jeremy has to prove he is innocent , one huge mountain to climb.
...but I don't believe it's the evidence alone that keeps JB incarcerated!
People are kept in prison if they fail to admit to their crimes. You will find that on the whole those who admit to the offences of which they are found guilty are far more likely to be released than those who continue to protest their innocence. It is as if the state needs them to admit to their crime and show a will to change is a very important step. This apparently is supposed to show that they are no longer a threat to society.
Regardless of JB's admittance or denial....I believe it's a far bigger case and nothing along the lines of our 'usual' MOJ. With the strong possibility of people with influence keeping him incarcerated, he's going to need more than just evidence.
The CCRC will take their time over all the evidence submitted and will, no doubt, get the best of all professions in, that are required to destroy and counteract all he has submitted. This is not an open and shut case...never has been, never will.
I would like nothing more than to be proven wrong.