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Title: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: mike tesko on August 27, 2011, 01:02:PM
Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: smiffy on August 27, 2011, 03:17:PM
In my view he got caught lying on a number of issues..most obviously that he had been out shooting when Sheila was present .
Seemed to act in the normal manner of a liar being tripped up in court.
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: bob on August 27, 2011, 03:34:PM
In my view he got caught lying on a number of issues..most obviously that he had been out shooting when Sheila was present .
Seemed to act in the normal manner of a liar being tripped up in court.
Where is the evidence that she had ever been out shooting with him?
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: chochokeira on August 27, 2011, 10:10:PM
In my view he got caught lying on a number of issues..most obviously that he had been out shooting when Sheila was present .
Seemed to act in the normal manner of a liar being tripped up in court.
Where is the evidence that she had ever been out shooting with him?


In the photographs of the shoot taken by Robert Hauser, I would think.

Wasn't Hauser a relation of AP's  - was he AP's father in law?
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: bob on August 27, 2011, 10:14:PM
In my view he got caught lying on a number of issues..most obviously that he had been out shooting when Sheila was present .
Seemed to act in the normal manner of a liar being tripped up in court.
Where is the evidence that she had ever been out shooting with him?


In the photographs of the shoot taken by Robert Hauser, I would think.

Wasn't Hauser a relation of AP's  - was he AP's father in law?
Has anyone seen these photographs?
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: Jackiepreece on August 27, 2011, 10:48:PM
Bob stop being nasty to Smiffy xxx
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 27, 2011, 10:53:PM
Hallo, Jack - where have you been?

(And Bob is never nasty!!)
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: bob on August 27, 2011, 10:55:PM
Bob stop being nasty to Smiffy xxx
Ooops... Sorry Jackie - I only just read this.

Seems I'd best get my coat!
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 27, 2011, 10:57:PM
Oooh-er. Me too!!
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: chochokeira on August 27, 2011, 10:58:PM
In my view he got caught lying on a number of issues..most obviously that he had been out shooting when Sheila was present .
Seemed to act in the normal manner of a liar being tripped up in court.
Where is the evidence that she had ever been out shooting with him?


In the photographs of the shoot taken by Robert Hauser, I would think.

Wasn't Hauser a relation of AP's  - was he AP's father in law?
Has anyone seen these photographs?


Shame Hartley's not about, he might know of them ;D
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 27, 2011, 11:00:PM
See, Choch!! I rest my case!!
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: chochokeira on August 27, 2011, 11:05:PM
See, Choch!! I rest my case!!


What case, Shon'?
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 27, 2011, 11:10:PM
The Hartley case. I'm not sure where I'm going with this, Choch. I'm full of curry and X factor.
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 27, 2011, 11:11:PM
Choch, while it's quiet, can I ask you a question?
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 27, 2011, 11:21:PM
Don't worry, Choch. I've forgotten it now.
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: Jackiepreece on August 27, 2011, 11:28:PM
Bob
Bob it's getting so boring your thing against Smiffy zzzzx
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: chochokeira on August 27, 2011, 11:30:PM
Choch, while it's quiet, can I ask you a question?


Yes, go ahead if you remember what it was. I bet it wasn't about who I believe will win the X Factor, but I'll tell you anyway: Janet Devlin, that girl could sing the telephone directory backwards and sound good. I don't watch TV, I watch the news online and that's it, I do, however, always try to have a look at the X Factor online, it's the only TV prog I like. Though I haven't seen any of this week's yet...
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 27, 2011, 11:31:PM
I think Bob's gone to bed. But smiffy is much worse to Bob. Bob is never rude or abusive.

There's 3 Wide Awake girls on here...what do you think? Can someone wake Andy up?
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 27, 2011, 11:34:PM
Choch, while it's quiet, can I ask you a question?


Yes, go ahead if you remember what it was. I bet it wasn't about who I believe will win the X Factor, but I'll tell you anyway: Janet Devlin, that girl could sing the telephone directory backwards and sound good. I don't watch TV, I watch the news online and that's it, I do, however, always try to have a look at the X Factor online, it's the only TV prog I like. Though I haven't seen any of this week's yet...

No. it's gone, Choch. But I agree with Janet Devlin, she's so sweet. But wait until you see the fat, gay bloke from tonight doing Adele!!
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 27, 2011, 11:35:PM
Don't let me hijack this thread, Choch. I'm in enough shit already!!
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 27, 2011, 11:38:PM
And yes, Jack, I did think that Jedward were gay. But I don't now. They make me think of whippet puppies with learning difficulties!!
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 27, 2011, 11:42:PM
I'm looking forward to Rochy's new video.
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: Jackiepreece on August 27, 2011, 11:45:PM
Shona how about Darren and his 6 pack he he he !
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 27, 2011, 11:49:PM
Shona how about Darren and his 6 pack he he he !

Yes to Darren and his 8 pack (I believe!!) but no to the mad looking bloke with the poster!!

I think we should be on Wide Awake................!!
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: Jackiepreece on August 27, 2011, 11:50:PM
Choch you have to look at big brother to see mr paparatzi 6 pack he had liposuction and now he looks like the michelin man but he says he thinks its brilliant ;D
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: Jackiepreece on August 27, 2011, 11:51:PM
Lets go wide awake and hope andy and tyler come on because Tylers got a dirty mind and she is really funny
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 27, 2011, 11:53:PM
You do it, then, Jack. I'm not sure how to. And Jedward are SO going to win!!
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: Jackiepreece on August 27, 2011, 11:55:PM
I am going to start to be nicer to Bob in case he leaves too
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 27, 2011, 11:59:PM
Bob looks a bit worried, there. You should be nice to him, Jack, he's lovely. And he always speaks very highly of you!! I'd forum marry him, but I think you may have first dibs!!
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: shonapugs on August 28, 2011, 12:04:AM
My worst nightmare is you lot paring up, and I'm left with smiffy. We SERIOUSLYshould be on Wide Awake.....................
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: tyler on August 28, 2011, 02:09:AM
In my view he got caught lying on a number of issues..most obviously that he had been out shooting when Sheila was present .
Seemed to act in the normal manner of a liar being tripped up in court.
Where is the evidence that she had ever been out shooting with him?


In the photographs of the shoot taken by Robert Hauser, I would think.

Wasn't Hauser a relation of AP's  - was he AP's father in law?
Has anyone seen these photographs?


Shame Hartley's not about, he might know of them ;D

Keira,I have seen one of the photos from the shoot.Is a photo of Sheila holding a gun.I think it is in my crime magazine,forget what it is called but you can pick them up on ebay real cheap.
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: mike tesko on August 28, 2011, 08:36:AM
Anthony Pargeter was not questioned about whether or not he would benefit from the state of Ralph Bamber in the event that Jeremy was convicted of his murder?
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: bob on August 28, 2011, 08:42:AM
Anthony Pargeter was not questioned about whether or not he would benefit from the state of Ralph Bamber in the event that Jeremy was convicted of his murder?
Would that have been relevant though Mike, given his testimony?

It doesn't seem from what you've posted above that he actually said anything that was specifically targetted to incriminate JB?
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: smiffy on August 28, 2011, 08:50:AM
Anthony Pargeter was not questioned about whether or not he would benefit from the state of Ralph Bamber in the event that Jeremy was convicted of his murder?


very relevant point mike and may be part of the reason why he lied in court as well as giving false information in his statements.
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: chochokeira on August 28, 2011, 09:54:AM
In my view he got caught lying on a number of issues..most obviously that he had been out shooting when Sheila was present .
Seemed to act in the normal manner of a liar being tripped up in court.
Where is the evidence that she had ever been out shooting with him?


In the photographs of the shoot taken by Robert Hauser, I would think.

Wasn't Hauser a relation of AP's  - was he AP's father in law?
Has anyone seen these photographs?


Shame Hartley's not about, he might know of them ;D

Keira,I have seen one of the photos from the shoot.Is a photo of Sheila holding a gun.I think it is in my crime magazine,forget what it is called but you can pick them up on ebay real cheap.


Well spotted, Tyler! I don't suppose you still have a copy? If not, do you have details of the mag concerned, I'll see if I can find one on ebay - unless Mike already has a copy. +1
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: chochokeira on August 28, 2011, 10:32:AM
Anthony Pargeter was not questioned about whether or not he would benefit from the state of Ralph Bamber in the event that Jeremy was convicted of his murder?

Unbelievable. This makes me so angry. Most of the allegations about Jeremy's alleged motives hinged around his alleged desire for his parents' wealth. Many of these allegations seem to have originated with the extended family. Yet the court seems to have heard little evidence of how much other family members - and Jeremy's former girlfriend - who testified against Jeremy stood to gain if he was found guilty.

Why on earth wasn't AP questioned about this? The court had a right to be made fully aware of AP's and the rest of the extended family's conflict of interest in this case. The court had a right to know that a number of people stood to gain substantial sums if Jeremy was found guilty - and to lose substantial sums if Jeremy was found innocent.

This case was presented to the court in such a distorted and one dimensional manner. Half the key evidence was either missed or deliberately withheld.

This is of such importance because this huge body of missing and withheld evidence denied Jeremy Bamber the fair trial that every citizen has a right to.
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: OnceSaid on August 28, 2011, 12:28:PM
Page 21 E of the transcript, can anyone decifer the question?

What exactly does it mean "the witness withdrew", underlined and in brackets?

Withdrew from the question?
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: tyler on August 28, 2011, 01:54:PM
Page 21 E of the transcript, can anyone decifer the question?

What exactly does it mean "the witness withdrew", underlined and in brackets?

Withdrew from the question?

Doesn't it mean - the witness withdrew from the stand,ie left the stand?
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: ngb1066 on August 28, 2011, 01:55:PM
Page 21 E of the transcript, can anyone decifer the question?

What exactly does it mean "the witness withdrew", underlined and in brackets?

Withdrew from the question?

It means it was the end of the witness's evidence.

Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: tyler on August 28, 2011, 01:57:PM
Keira.I know I have seen the photo.Its not in any of the four books I have,so must be in my magazine.The magazine I have is Murder in Mind Issue 6,but unfortunately it is packed away somewhere so I cannot check.sorrry!
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: OnceSaid on August 28, 2011, 02:04:PM
Page 21 E of the transcript, can anyone decifer the question?

What exactly does it mean "the witness withdrew", underlined and in brackets?

Withdrew from the question?

It means it was the end of the witness's evidence.

He refrained from answering anymore questions at this point?

or the defense had finished questioning him on this specific matter?
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: ngb1066 on August 28, 2011, 02:29:PM
Page 21 E of the transcript, can anyone decifer the question?

What exactly does it mean "the witness withdrew", underlined and in brackets?

Withdrew from the question?

It means it was the end of the witness's evidence.

He refrained from answering anymore questions at this point?or the defense had finished questioning him on this specific matter?

The defence had finished questioning him.

 
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: OnceSaid on August 29, 2011, 08:44:AM
Page 21 E of the transcript, can anyone decifer the question?

What exactly does it mean "the witness withdrew", underlined and in brackets?

Withdrew from the question?

It means it was the end of the witness's evidence.

He refrained from answering anymore questions at this point?or the defense had finished questioning him on this specific matter?

The defence had finished questioning him.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: chochokeira on November 05, 2011, 03:52:PM
A rather off topic question: is AP's wife American?
Title: Re: Trial Transcript of Anthony Pargeter
Post by: No-Bits on September 10, 2014, 11:13:PM
Caroline, sorry to be a pain, but I don't think the document on page 1 is in the archives. Hint hint x