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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: Bubo bubo on July 13, 2025, 05:27:PM
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This is the CT's views on the telephones.
Just a short watch
https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/telephones
This is my current thinking.
A game of phones
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For a long time, the fawn phone was the kitchen phone and was referred to as such, especially by the staff but also by family members. However, given the environment created by its positioning with lots of cooking and baking as well as an adjacent electric hob etc, the buttons were sticking, and June did not like it. She preferred the cream dial phone. which was in the bedroom.
A new digital phone was introduced and for JB the new phone was the kitchen phone, and he called the fawn phone the spare. However, it could be temperamental at times which June did not like. Events were to cause the next change. A storm damaged the digital kitchen phone, and JB regarded it as broken.
What were the choices
1 If they could not locate the spare, they would have to use the cream dial phone in the kitchen permanently and use the blue upstairs office phone in the bedroom as required. Alternatively, they could use the fawn phone which would mean NB could use the blue phone in the office now the digital (kitchen) phone was broken. This was the best common-sense approach
2 If they located the spare the choices widened. They could have (as HB suggested), use the spare, (if it was working) in the bedroom and the cream phone in the kitchen on a permanent basis until the issues with the digital phone were resolved.
In all cases there had to be a phone in the bedroom that night. Either the fawn phone, the blue phone or the cream phone.
I accept that the fawn phone could have just been misplaced but if that was the case the blue phone would have to be taken backwards and forwards from and to the upstairs office and placed on a shelf where it was later found.
There was no motive or sensible reason for either JB or SC to hide the fawn (old kitchen phone) or return the blue phone to the upstairs office.
This means the police must have either brought the cream phone to the kitchen after removing the fawn phone and hiding it after cleaning if any was required. Alternatively, they would have to return the blue phone to the upstairs office, again cleaning it if required.
Remember to use any phone in the bedroom there had to a be a phone connected to the master socket in the kitchen.
Unless of course you are someone who believes NB was happy to have no access to a phone during the night for emergency purposes especially at that time, since there had been difficult discussions earlier that evening and he was hosting a mentally challenged daughter and two small boys.
I disagree with the CT regarding AE. The case was still four murders and a suicide when the fawn phone was found, and Taff was in charge not Ainsley It cannot be ruled out that she was prompted by the family or the police to take this action.
IF THERE WAS A 999 CALL The motive for the police would be to remove any phone close to June. It would be pretty vital.
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IF THERE WAS A 999 CALL The motive for the police would be to remove any phone close to June. It would be pretty vital.
Why would the police have a Motive? June was already dead when the GPO coupled the 999 line at 6.09 am up per the logs show, and uncoupled later
So your saying, quick as a flash some bright spark thought remove the phone near June, because she phoned 999 You talk absolutely nuts.
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It is suspicious that the bedroom phone was in the kitchen rather than the bedroom.
It is also suspicious that the kitchen phone was working. But was underneath a pile of newspapers in the kitchen.
Can only think Bamber put the kitchen phone underneath a pile of newspapers. Then brought the bedroom phone downstairs and took it off the hook.
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Why would the police have a Motive? June was already dead when the GPO coupled the 999 line at 6.09 am up per the logs show, and uncoupled later
So your saying, quick as a flash some bright spark thought remove the phone near June, because she phoned 999 You talk absolutely nuts.
We do not have a TOD for June.
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So your saying, quick as a flash some bright spark thought remove the phone near June, because she phoned 999 You talk absolutely nuts.
I have to agree it's mental.
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I have to agree it's mental.
But it's previously been suggested that June may have been walking round the bed to reach the phone..........................which would seem to suggest that police must have got there first if they removed it. Mental? Nutts? Both fit equally well!