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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: BarefootDanC on February 14, 2025, 08:31:PM
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What have Jeremy Bamber's supporters got to hide?
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How much is JB actually running the show?
He's a cat A prisoner, he is reliant on his campaign team etc. In so much in how things get divulged via social media at least.
We've been told before that " everybody dances to my tune or I get rid of them " I don't believe it to be true. JB can't physically stop people doing anything from HMP Wakefield. At best he can ask his CT to get rid of them campaigning for him.
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How much is JB actually running the show?
He's a cat A prisoner, he is reliant on his campaign team etc. In so much in how things get divulged via social media at least.
We've been told before that " everybody dances to my tune or I get rid of them " I don't believe it to be true. JB can't physically stop people doing anything from HMP Wakefield. At best he can ask his CT to get rid of them campaigning for him.
I agree, but the question was not "what has Jeremy Bamber got to hide?", it was "what has his supporters got to hide?"
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I agree, but the question was not "what has Jeremy Bamber got to hide?", it was "what has his supporters got to hide?"
Are you talking about his CT or those who just post in his favour and have no particular affiliation?
Because for the former at least, if we arrive at the conclusion that Jeremy directs everything then it's certainlyv" what has Jeremy Bamber got to hide" his CT are merely his mouthpieces in the free world if that is the case.
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From a letter I have seen JB did not at one time welcome " people gossiping on Internet forums" as he felt they were harming his case.
Years on he has youtube channell, tiktok,twitter, Facebook page, etc.
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Are you talking about his CT or those who just post in his favour and have no particular affiliation?
Because for the former at least, if we arrive at the conclusion that Jeremy directs everything then it's certainlyv" what has Jeremy Bamber got to hide" his CT are merely his mouthpieces in the free world if that is the case.
My comment was aimed at the Campaign Team and those supporters who allow themselves to be controlled by them.
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My comment was aimed at the Campaign Team and those supporters who allow themselves to be controlled by them.
The CT go too heavily on trying to paint Jeremy as a " whiter than white houlier than thou" figure.
JB himself has recognised his own character flaws in fairness at times, However I'm not privy to the conversations or interactions he has with his CT, so I don't know how much as I said, he directs or not.
Personally I believe for a minority of his CT they want to be the star of the show in so which that they can claim if JB gets out on a successful appeal they can be the " the person who got Jeremy Bamber out ", Hence why many are so defensive.
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The CT go too heavily on trying to paint Jeremy as a " whiter than white houlier than thou" figure.
JB himself has recognised his own character flaws in fairness at times, However I'm not privy to the conversations or interactions he has with his CT, so I don't know how much as I said, he directs or not.
Personally I believe for a minority of his CT they want to be the star of the show in so which that they can claim if JB gets out on a successful appeal they can be the " the person who got Jeremy Bamber out ", Hence why many are so defensive.
This is behind A LOT of support!!
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From a letter I have seen JB did not at one time welcome " people gossiping on Internet forums" as he felt they were harming his case.
Years on he has youtube channell, tiktok,twitter, Facebook page, etc.
Well, if you look at some of the things Mike Tesko had said (many years after he started the forum), CCs guilt trolling campaigns and the Paul Harrison fiasco to name a few. That view does have some merit.
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Well, if you look at some of the things Mike Tesko had said (many years after he started the forum), CCs guilt trolling campaigns and the Paul Harrison fiasco to name a few. That view does have some merit.
I can totally understand and agree with his view Dave. I have seen a letter as I'm sure you have from JB bollocking Mike over the use of a psychic in his case.
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What have Jeremy Bamber's supporters got to hide?
Just to clarify, are you referring to the removal of some material here? This came to light recently as I asked about the whereabouts of JM's trial testimony.
There's also the CCRC's full statement of reasons from 2012 which JB/CT have chosen not to release. Quite ironic when you consider how they bang on about disclosure!
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From a letter I have seen JB did not at one time welcome " people gossiping on Internet forums" as he felt they were harming his case.
Years on he has youtube channell, tiktok,twitter, Facebook page, etc.
If anyone harms his case it is him and his CT:
https://www.thesun.ie/news/264526/mass-murderer-jeremy-bamber-has-bizarre-mothers-day-rant-read-at-grave-of-parents-he-killed-30-years-ago/
The above was in all the tabloids.
And this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-33521825
What right thinking person could for one moment think the above could in any way assist JB in terms of what he tells us is a wrongful conviction? And if it wasn't to assist in terms of a wrongful conviction then what was the purpose? What was the objective? How is any of the above relevant? How could anyone think it would be received positively? Pray tell?
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Well, if you look at some of the things Mike Tesko had said (many years after he started the forum), CCs guilt trolling campaigns and the Paul Harrison fiasco to name a few. That view does have some merit.
If it wasn't for Mike none of us would be on this forum. Mike was a crank imo but he did a stellar job uploading all the documents. Mike and CC have posted on an internet forum inhabited by about 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% of the global population! On the other hand JB and his CT orchestrated the above, graveside reading and bake-off, which occupied space in all the UK tabloids and was beamed all over the globe with much further reach than this forum.
And stop being sanctimonious. You are in no position to criticise others with your absurd theories about AE contaminating the silencer with SC's menstrual stained knickers, which you regularly post about here, and your online behaviour of trolling female posters here namely Caroline, CC and Jane.
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The CT go too heavily on trying to paint Jeremy as a " whiter than white houlier than thou" figure.
JB himself has recognised his own character flaws in fairness at times, However I'm not privy to the conversations or interactions he has with his CT, so I don't know how much as I said, he directs or not.
Personally I believe for a minority of his CT they want to be the star of the show in so which that they can claim if JB gets out on a successful appeal they can be the " the person who got Jeremy Bamber out ", Hence why many are so defensive.
They need to paint him that way, because if they allow the truth - that he hated his parents and was looking forward to spending his inheritance - although this is not actually proof that he carried out the murders, it will lead people to believe he did it.
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Well, if you look at some of the things Mike Tesko had said (many years after he started the forum), CCs guilt trolling campaigns and the Paul Harrison fiasco to name a few. That view does have some merit.
What was the Paul Harrison fiasco? This was before I knew about this case.
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If it wasn't for Mike none of us would be on this forum. Mike was a crank imo but he did a stellar job uploading all the documents. ....
This is my point. Mike uploaded loads of documents, but now his supporters do not want further documents uploaded.
What have they got to hide??
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They need to paint him that way, because if they allow the truth - that he hated his parents and was looking forward to spending his inheritance - although this is not actually proof that he carried out the murders, it will lead people to believe he did it.
They lie about JB though, particular yvonne " the jeremy I know is very shy and quiet "
That is the polar opposite of what JB is, he's a confident outspoken character.
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If anyone harms his case it is him and his CT:
https://www.thesun.ie/news/264526/mass-murderer-jeremy-bamber-has-bizarre-mothers-day-rant-read-at-grave-of-parents-he-killed-30-years-ago/
The above was in all the tabloids.
And this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-33521825
What right thinking person could for one moment think the above could in any way assist JB in terms of what he tells us is a wrongful conviction? And if it wasn't to assist in terms of a wrongful conviction then what was the purpose? What was the objective? How is any of the above relevant? How could anyone think it would be received positively? Pray tell?
I too believe he dropped a bollock in doing this to be fair.
It's the kind of idea what sounds good after a few pints.
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What was the Paul Harrison fiasco? This was before I knew about this case.
A book author who was somewhat of a Walter Mitty character. He claimed to have been a serving police officer during the 70's/80's and was going to write the 'definitive' book about the case with 'bombshell' new evidence. I don't like to say 'I told you so' but there was nothing in his background to suggest he had the gravitas for this. His prior book writing attempts were about various subjects including football and an autobiography that was weird to say the least. I thought he was a charlatan but many were taken in including JB. Harrison had a habit of including the deceased in his books who obviously were unable to corroborate giving him carte blanche to 'quote' from meetings and interviews. Eg in his Bamber book he 'quoted' from meetings with the late Ed Lawson QC and the late DS Jones ;) ;) Anyway it resulted in the following after a very poor quality book:
https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/23847427.carlisle-authors-bogus-claims-feature-bbc-programme/
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I too believe he dropped a bollock in doing this to be fair.
It's the kind of idea what sounds good after a few pints.
It's part of a deluded attempt to portray Jeremy as someone who loved his family, whereas people who knew him at the time said the opposite, that he hated his family.
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It's part of a deluded attempt to portray Jeremy as someone who loved his family, whereas people who knew him at the time said the opposite, that he hated his family.
That's not actually true. Those who had something to gain either materially or absolving themselves of criminal records made such comments. Those who had nothing to gain made no such comments such as JB's former live-in girlfriend Suzette Ford.
Both SC and JB had a difficult relationship with June who would never be allowed to adopt today given her long history of psychiatric issuse before SC or JB were even conceived. Both had a good relationship with NB and an amicable relationship between the siblings. CC and the twins also had a difficult relationship with June. Have you read CC's letter written but not sent to NB? Its in the library here.
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It's part of a deluded attempt to portray Jeremy as someone who loved his family, whereas people who knew him at the time said the opposite, that he hated his family.
That's not true. He did have a good relationship with Nevill.
In regards to shelia they were close when younger, but drifted apart and mixed in different circles. Pretty normal to be honest.
Accept he had a difficult relationship with June, so did Shelia.
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They lie about JB though, particular yvonne " the jeremy I know is very shy and quiet "
That is the polar opposite of what JB is, he's a confident outspoken character.
It's her perception of him and your perception of him. No right or wrong unless you're a pyschologist/phychiatrist undertaking psychometric testing to place him on a spectrum with regard to various personality traits.
I recently posted up my perception of him and you disagreed.
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They lie about JB though, particular yvonne " the jeremy I know is very shy and quiet "
That is the polar opposite of what JB is, he's a confident outspoken character.
But "shy and quiet" is probably how he wanted her to see him, thus he presented himself, to her, as such.
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It's her perception of him and your perception of him. No right or wrong unless you're a pyschologist/phychiatrist undertaking psychometric testing to place him on a spectrum with regard to various personality traits.
I recently posted up my perception of him and you disagreed.
You would argue Cardiff is the capital of Syria.
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You would argue Cardiff is the capital of Syria.
Why would I argue Cardiff is the capital of Syria when it is quite clear Damascus is:
https://unstats.un.org/unsd/geoinfo/ungegn/docs/geoname.pdf
You seem to struggle with objective and subjective data. Objective data is based on hard facts accepted by most eg Damascus is the capital of Syria. Subjective data is based on personal opinion, preferences etc where there are no right or wrong answers eg you think JB is a good looking guy and mentally strong. Whereas I see him differently. Yvonne sees him differently to how we view him.
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Why would I argue Cardiff is the capital of Syria when it is quite clear Damascus is:
https://unstats.un.org/unsd/geoinfo/ungegn/docs/geoname.pdf
You seem to struggle with objective and subjective data. Objective data is based on hard facts accepted by most eg Damascus is the capital of Syria. Subjective data is based on personal opinion, preferences etc where there are no right or wrong answers eg you think JB is a good looking guy and mentally strong. Whereas I see him differently. Yvonne sees him differently to how we view him.
I see things in black and white. I have no struggles in life.
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I see things in black and white. I have no struggles in life.
https://www.embarkbh.com/blog/mental-health/all-or-nothing-thinking/#:~:text=All%2Dor%2Dnothing%20thinking%20%E2%80%94,thinking%20mistakes%2C%E2%80%9D%20Girimonti%20explained.
All-or-nothing thinking — also known as black-and-white thinking and dichotomous thinking — is a common cognitive distortion that frequently happens to people with anxiety-related issues.
“Cognitive distortions are basically thinking mistakes,” Girimonti explained.
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https://www.embarkbh.com/blog/mental-health/all-or-nothing-thinking/#:~:text=All%2Dor%2Dnothing%20thinking%20%E2%80%94,thinking%20mistakes%2C%E2%80%9D%20Girimonti%20explained.
All-or-nothing thinking — also known as black-and-white thinking and dichotomous thinking — is a common cognitive distortion that frequently happens to people with anxiety-related issues.
“Cognitive distortions are basically thinking mistakes,” Girimonti explained.
https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/black-and-white-thinking
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https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/black-and-white-thinking
Thank you for that.
I've never been known to have anxiety but have frequently been accused of causing it in my time. So it's nice to see things from the opposite end.
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https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/black-and-white-thinking
The bottom line is, despite all the words, it might be very scary for people to think outside their "black or white" box. Staying within it might feel safer.
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What was the Paul Harrison fiasco? This was before I knew about this case.
Long story.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9398.msg437764.html#msg437764 (https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9398.msg437764.html#msg437764)
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6023.msg268220.html#msg268220 (https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6023.msg268220.html#msg268220)