Jeremy Bamber Forum
OTHER HIGH PROFILE CASES => Other cases => Topic started by: jaymo132 on July 18, 2011, 10:57:AM
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The case of the Essex boys murders of 1995 was one of the main reasons i came to find this site.
It yet again shows Essex police force in a dim light,with their investigations.
Mick Steele and Jack Whomes were jailed for life for the murders of 3 drug barons in Rettendon Essex.
Follow this for more info...www.bernardomahoney.com/rrmurders/main.shtml
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My son read the book. Can't remember who it was written by, but he met the author at a bookshop at Chelmsford.
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The case of the Essex boys murders of 1995 was one of the main reasons i came to find this site.
It yet again shows Essex police force in a dim light,with their investigations.
Mick Steele and Jack Whomes were jailed for life for the murders of 3 drug barons in Rettendon Essex.
Follow this for more info...www.bernardomahoney.com/rrmurders/main.shtml
Micheal Stone did not commit this crime. Funny how the name of Micheal Stone comes up.
The father of lea betts knows the truth.[the father was a police oficer]
Stone had never been convicted of violent crime, he was mostly concerned with drugs.
The bloke that turned Stone in was given immunity, so many similarities with the Bamber case.
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how did the name Micheal stone come up he lived in Kent anyway.
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I got caught up in this after meeting a girl at Dukes Nightclub in Chelmsford at the time. She was a friend of Tony Tucker and he was the supplier of her stuff...I know to my cost because she was a bit more than I could handle. Though I did try.
I did meet Tucker and Tait at the bar in Dukes one evening, but only for a few minutes. It seemed like they owned the place. Dukes was packed some nights, maybe a thousand or so party animals and it seemed like I was one of only a few not on anything.
It took me a while to work out what I was dealing with.
We had some crazy situations back then.
On one occasion I took ******* home after an evening out in Chelmsford and all the roads were blocked off around her house in Great Baddow. There were at least 20 police cars.
It was a massive drug raid, ( all her friends up and down the road were on gear too ), but she never mentioned what they might have got from her place.
The stuff going round in big numbers was E's, she certainly took plenty at the time - kept an ample supply in her handbag and back then no one bothered much about hiding the stuff.
They didn't search me during the Saturday night raid, I turned the car round and drove back to Colchester.
******* was a friend boxer Nigel Benn. I met him too. He was a gentleman and very polite.
I'm off to walk the dog and will try and remember some of the things ******* mentioned back then.
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For Michael Stone......read Mick Steele,who along with Whomes was sold down the river by a certain Darren Nicholls.
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are yes i get you.
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its believed though it hasnt been proved that keneth noye ordered the shootings.
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That's the bloke who wrote the book. Bernard O'Mahoney. I think he was a bouncer at Raquel's nightclub in Southend. Also a body guard for a few celebs like Nigel Benn. My boy thinks he knows more than he's letting on. He was at a book signing at Chelmsford when my son bought his book and O'Mahoney asked if he wanted it signed and my boy didn't recognise him. ;D
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dodgy character certanly
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Something else...a friend of mine was inside with Pat Tate in the 1980's. It might have been at Hollesley.
Tate spent hour after hour working out and doing push ups in his cell.
One day the two of them had quite a fight in the library.
Tate came off far worse.
After that they became mates.
Back to Rettendon....I'm in touch with people who knew Micky Steele as he lived nearby in Great Bentley.
They don't think he or Jack did the shootings.
Drug transportation was more their line.
My friend ******* was visiting a 64 year old in Chelmsford Prison days after the murders.
She always maintained that he knew who was responsible but he never told her.
It sounded more like a gangland hit from South of the Dartford Tunnel than Betts and members of EP firearms squad. Having said that though, there was a police delay in arriving at the crime scene. The shootings were reported 2 hours before the bodies were discovered from what I've heard.
I used to feel nervous in *******'s company as she was convinced we were followed whilst we were in the Chelmsford area. We might have been, but by then she was hitting cocaine and paranoid.
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Grahame,If I were you,I wouldnt believe a word that Bernard O'Mahoney writes in his books.He does not know half of what he claims to know as he was never in the loop so to speak.Tucker couldnt stand him and Tucker,Tate and Rolfe all knew that he was a grass.To be honest,Im surprised that due to O'Mahoneys big mouth,that he is still alive!
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Forgot to mention Grahame.If the case interests your son,I can recommend the book Muscle,by Carlton Leach.He was a good friend of Tuckers,and there is a little about the rettendon murders in there.
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Jaymo.Hi by the way.
Your statement of Steele and Whomes being sold down the river by Darren Nichols.
I take it that you believe them to be innocent? Can I ask why?
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Forgot to mention Grahame.If the case interests your son,I can recommend the book Muscle,by Carlton Leach.He was a good friend of Tuckers,and there is a little about the rettendon murders in there.
Thanks Tyler. I'll let him know. I'm not interested in it myself. I remember the Retendon murders and heard about it being connected with the death of Leah Betts somehow. But beyond that I'm not really interested in gangsters and drug dealers. And tell you the truth I don't want to know much about them.
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Forgot to mention Grahame.If the case interests your son,I can recommend the book Muscle,by Carlton Leach.He was a good friend of Tuckers,and there is a little about the rettendon murders in there.
Thanks Tyler. I'll let him know. I'm not interested in it myself. I remember the Retendon murders and heard about it being connected with the death of Leah Betts somehow. But beyond that I'm not really interested in gangsters and drug dealers. And tell you the truth I don't want to know much about them.
I agree Grahame.Alot of Essex people were relieved when those 3 were taken out.They were getting out of control and were very nasty characters indeed!
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from what i can see there was bugger all evedence to find them guilty.
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from what i can see there was bugger all evedence to find them guilty.
Not even their mobile phone signals that put them in the right place at the right time?
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i dident know about that
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Jaymo.Hi by the way.
Your statement of Steele and Whomes being sold down the river by Darren Nichols.
I take it that you believe them to be innocent? Can I ask why?
The name Jessie Gale,Canning town mob.
Tucker, Tate and Rolfe were also allegedly into £25,000 with none other than Kenny Noye.
Phone evidence would suggest that Mick Steele and Jack Whomes didn't do it.
Darren Nicholls the guy who's evidence helped convict Steele and Whomes is unreliable to say the least. He was an informant and worked with a dodgy copper called DC Wolfgand Bird.
During his time in custody Nicholls version of events change on several occasions on top of that he managed to negotiate a book deal and seal an advance of £14,000.( Gosh this sounds a lot like Julie Mugford and the NOTW.) Whilst in protective custody who is also alleged to have told his cell mate that his evidence was concocted to help convict Whomes and Steele. There is a sworn affidavit to this effect.
Nicholls never served a sentence for his crimes, he was released after his time on remand, his identity was changed. All though he was arrested in Newcastle circa 2006-7
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Yes,I know about the connection with Noye.I have been led to believe that he ordered the slayings due to a dodgy batch of drugs that Noye had stumped up the cash for.
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Yes,I know about the connection with Noye.I have been led to believe that he ordered the slayings due to a dodgy batch of drugs that Noye had stumped up the cash for.
Cannabis bought over from Holland by Steele and Whomes and found to be duff.Tate borrowed the money with a promise of a profit.
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It did look like Kent 3 Essex nil.
Tri cell from Workhouse Lane supported Whomes account of where he used his phone.
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bit of a strange case happened up here a few months ago.
2 men were found in the road, both were severely beaten to death and just left or dumped there.
i think the police are still appealing for information.
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ive watched a few videos on the rettendon murders, and there's always peopls posting comments such as "legends", what was so legendary about 3 drug dealers? violent drug dealers at that.
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The crime scene pics for this case are horrendous.
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They are, i agree.
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The crime scene pics for this case are horrendous.
We were talking about these in another topic, I agree the pictures are absolutely horrendous.
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Bumped - as it seems to be current topic.
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In the last documentary by Bernard Omahoney he claims it was Steele and Wholmes all along. Makes him look rather silly when for almost two decades he said he knew who done it and it's not Steele or Wholmes.
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In the last documentary by Bernard Omahoney he claims it was Steele and Wholmes all along. Makes him look rather silly when for almost two decades he said he knew who done it and it's not Steele or Wholmes.
Doesnt O'Mahoney have a dodgy rep? Is he some kind of 'stooge'?
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Doesnt O'Mahoney have a dodgy rep? Is he some kind of 'stooge'?
roch was he also used by the police to give evidence in the leah betts case.there were a few who disliked him from the start as soon as he arrived in essex (not to be trusted)
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He also hates JB with a vengeance,mmmmm,wonder why ?
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He also hates JB with a vengeance,mmmmm,wonder why ?
All of a sudden I like the man ;D
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All of a sudden I like the man ;D
I prefer to ask or wonder why. NOBODY likes a smart-arse do they ??
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All of a sudden I like the man ;D
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