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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on June 11, 2022, 11:22:PM

Title: Confrontational letter contents ['Colin Caffell' to 'Neville Bamber'] witheld!
Post by: mike tesko on June 11, 2022, 11:22:PM
Here is a copy of the letter in question, which served to 'unhinge' 'Neville', 'June', and 'Sheila', and turn each of them against one another. It remains a distinct possibility, that police treated this letter, as 'the suicide note found on top of a bedside cabinet in 'Sheila Caffells' bedroom! Police, treated the letter contents, as the reason why she may have 'shot and killed the others', before 'taking her own life' by way of 'suicide'..
Title: Re: Confrontational letter contents ['Colin Caffell' to 'Neville Bamber'] witheld!
Post by: ILB on June 11, 2022, 11:30:PM
Thanks for that Mike

From one Yorkshire lad to another  :))
Title: Re: Confrontational letter contents ['Colin Caffell' to 'Neville Bamber'] witheld!
Post by: mike tesko on June 12, 2022, 01:19:AM
'Colin' handed over this letter to 'Neville Bamber' shortly after arriving at the farmhouse for the beginning of a short stay involving, 'Sheila', 'Daniel', and 'Nicholas'. Nobody, other than 'Colin' and 'Neville Bamber' knew about the letter with its terms of reference. So, 'how did the letter end up in the possession of the police'! Since' no such record, as such 'existed' which could shed some light on the matter...
Title: Re: Confrontational letter contents ['Colin Caffell' to 'Neville Bamber'] witheld!
Post by: ILB on June 12, 2022, 07:30:AM
In fairness the letter is hinting at Mr caffells ( justified) disapproval of the religious behaviour June is bestowing upon his children.

Can't really see a hidden agenda from the police

Neither massively detrimental to a Shelia gulity or Jeremy innocent scenario
Title: Re: Confrontational letter contents ['Colin Caffell' to 'Neville Bamber'] witheld!
Post by: mike tesko on June 12, 2022, 12:15:PM
The letter content had consequences, which when she learned about it, she felt betrayed by her psrents, and ex-boyfriend ['Colin'], again ever that she had a relapse, which got brought on when 'Colin' told her, that 'they would never live together as a family'. As a result she sulked all the way during the  journey from 'Colins home address' to white house farm and in this respect   remained ' Silent ...

I am not trying to implicate 'Colin'  as the killer, or perhaps even as  '' Caffells' erstwhile accomplice!

The thing is, that to my mind, there was always going to be, 'inevitable consequences' surrounding the matters mentioned by 'Colin' in the letter in question! My point is, 'it's (or when) as in this instance, all the problems that 'Colin', ' his two boys, had 'to all intents and purposes', to 'deal with' it' in their own way. With that in mind, consider the evidence given to the court of trial, by 'Bradley'/'Knight' and 'other experts' or in other words how everything had to say regarding how 'everything that was' and 'had been occurring directly' or 'indirectly to anyone, or to all!

Title: Re: Confrontational letter contents ['Colin Caffell' to 'Neville Bamber'] witheld!
Post by: lookout on June 13, 2022, 12:11:PM
CC knew that Sheila couldn't and wasn't coping and once he'd heard from the teachers at the twin's school, he then decided to throw his weight behind a letter to her parents, blaming them. How dare he cover up his own shortcomings in this way !

 
Title: Re: Confrontational letter contents ['Colin Caffell' to 'Neville Bamber'] witheld!
Post by: lookout on June 13, 2022, 12:14:PM
The letter should have been produced in court to allow everyone involved to reach their own conclusions.
Title: Re: Confrontational letter contents ['Colin Caffell' to 'Neville Bamber'] witheld!
Post by: Jane on June 13, 2022, 01:15:PM
I have often advised people to write a letter and pour all their grievances into it. I then suggest that they take time to think about it before they send/give it. It seems very likely that this is exactly what Colin did. He may have reasoned that he'd worded it too strongly, and rather than give it to Nevill, potentially destroying a reasonable relationship between them forever, thus leaving no room for negotiating, he kept it in his pocket. At some point, he decided to give it to the police. Had he handed it to Nevill -something there's no way of verifying as Nevill was dead- he wouldn't have been able to do such, and the only possible way that Sheila could have known what were the contents was if Colin had left them with Nevill. It appears perfectly certain that he didn't.
Title: Re: Confrontational letter contents ['Colin Caffell' to 'Neville Bamber'] witheld!
Post by: lookout on June 13, 2022, 02:03:PM
Apart from the visible neglect of the twins, their drawings too should have been shown to the court, which expressed their sheer sadness at the time. They were not your average/normal drawings of a 5/6 year old of that era where there were no tv games, etc. to distract, showing a fire in a house, blood and the sun shedding tears. These pics. are on the forum somewhere.
Title: Re: Confrontational letter contents ['Colin Caffell' to 'Neville Bamber'] witheld!
Post by: ILB on June 14, 2022, 08:26:AM
Mr caffell was fully justified in writing this letter. He had his children best interests at heart. I've never heard one person utter a bad word about Nevill. He may have been conservative and old school. But he was a good and fair man

Title: Re: Confrontational letter contents ['Colin Caffell' to 'Neville Bamber'] witheld!
Post by: Jane on June 14, 2022, 09:00:AM
Mr caffell was fully justified in writing this letter. He had his children best interests at heart. I've never heard one person utter a bad word about Nevill. He may have been conservative and old school. But he was a good and fair man


I never knew him personally, but I do know many who did. They all concur with what you say, and as well as being the "good and fair man" you speak of, he was also enormous fun. An all round good 'un!!
Title: Re: Confrontational letter contents ['Colin Caffell' to 'Neville Bamber'] witheld!
Post by: ILB on June 14, 2022, 09:20:AM

I never knew him personally, but I do know many who did. They all concur with what you say, and as well as being the "good and fair man" you speak of, he was also enormous fun. An all round good 'un!!


Yeah I totally agree.
Title: Re: Confrontational letter contents ['Colin Caffell' to 'Neville Bamber'] witheld!
Post by: mike tesko on June 14, 2022, 01:24:PM
Mr caffell was fully justified in writing this letter. He had his children best interests at heart. I've never heard one person utter a bad word about Nevill. He may have been conservative and old school. But he was a good and fair man
note, that the letter he drafted to 'Neville Bamber' was / is 'undated '..

However, information documented elsewhere, points to 'Colin' having 'penned the facts' as 'he knew them to be', and that 'he did so', on 'an as yet unspecified date' between 'June' and 'July','1985'..
Title: Re: Confrontational letter contents ['Colin Caffell' to 'Neville Bamber'] witheld!
Post by: ILB on June 14, 2022, 08:11:PM
note, that the letter he drafted to 'Neville Bamber' was / is 'undated '..

However, information documented elsewhere, points to 'Colin' having 'penned the facts' as 'he knew them to be', and that 'he did so', on 'an as yet unspecified date' between 'June' and 'July','1985'..

I think the main Crux of the letter is Mr Caffell  worrying about his children's welfare in regards to custody matters regarding Shelia and June's religious beliefs. Which she has been bestowing upon Daniel and Nicholas .

Obviously written after Shelia was discharged from hospital