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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on March 27, 2022, 07:14:PM
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It is not just a coincidence, that the following relatives had to give blood samples to Essex police by the 22nd /23rd September 1986 - this was because police suspected the blood group result obtained from silencer 'DB/1' ( lab item no. 23) on the 12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September 1985, but those results were moved into a second silencer [`SBJ/1'] 'lab item no. 22'' which was received at tha lab' on the 20th September 1985, and renamed exhibit 'DRB/1 (' lab item no. 23') which relatives had in their possession at the time the first photographs displayed the scratch marks on the red painted kitchen aga [`14th September 1985']..
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most of the blood found on 'SHEILA CAFFELLS' light blue 'nightdress' did not originate from herself,
as established by the testing of several blood group samples, as verified by the following results carried out at 'Huntingdon forensic Lab' on blood samples taken from 'SHEILA Caffells' nightdress (exhibit reference,'ND/3')'lab item no. 19'
These blood group results, suggest very strongly, that blood from two (type 'A') or more (type 'O') of the other four victims contaminated the silencer when 'Shela shot them'..
This is a significant piece of research - 'Sheila' was not blood type 'O', and elsewhere her blood group type is recorded as blood type 'A1' making it possible that the samples that were tested from her nightdress originated from somebody totally different quite possibly other victims of the shooting tragedy!
(1) Stain 1 301 blood type 'A'
(2) Stain 2 [sample `JF192'] 003 blood type 'O'
(3) Stain 2 [sample ' BB9'] 003 blood type 'O'
(4) Stain 2 [sample ' BB12'] 2+03 blood type 'A'
(5) Stain 2 [sample 'BB16'] 2+02 blood type 'A'
(6) Stain 2 [sample 'BB20'] 003 blood type 'O'
(7) Stain 2 [sample 'BB21'] 002+ blood type 'O'
(8) Stain 2 [sample 'BB25'] 003 blood type 'O'
(a) 'Ralph Bamber' blood group type 'A1' [!!!] 22/09/86
'Ralph Bamber' blood group type 'O'[!!!!] 18/10/85
(b) 'Peter Eaton' blood group type 'O' [date taken - 20/09/86, date received at lab' - 22/09/86]
(c) 'Robert Woodwis Boutflour' blood group type 'A1' [date taken - 20/09/86, date received at lab'22/09/86]
(d) 'Sheila Caffell' blood group type 'A1' [!!!!] [date taken - 07/08/85, date received at lab'- 12/08/85]
(e) 'Sheila Caffell blood group type 'A' [!!!!] 18/10/85 [ dealt with at lab' - by John Hayward]
(f) 'June Bamber' blood group type 'A'
(g) 'Nicholas Caffell' blood group type 'O'
(h) 'Daniel Caffell' blood group type 'O'
(I) 'Jeremy Bamber' blood group type 'A'
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Additionally, I have researched the blood group evidence which is alleged to have been recovered from outside and inside of one [`DB/1'] lab' item (no. 23)of the two silencers which lie at the heart of the prosecution of 'Jeremy Bamber' for the murders of five members of his family, results obtained at the lab' on the 12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September 1985. Results [`A', 'EAP BA', 'AK1', and 'HP 2-1'] which were presented as being exclusive to 'Sheila Caffell' blood group types! I believe that part of the blood group evidence attributed as being present inside the other silencer [`DRB/1'] can now be successfully challenged, on the basis that blood types of the other four victim blood group evidence could have and did belong or originate from three or more of the other four victims! This latest argument which I am proposing, involves conflicting blood group results for at least two of the victims (those being 'Ralph Bamber'[presented on different occasions as blood type 'A1' /'O' and 'SHEILA Caffell' as blood type 'A1' / 'A']. This information has a direct effect on the credibility and reliability attached to the claim during the trial in 1986, and at the appeal in 2002. Since blood type 'A1' was detected and present inside /outside the version of a silencer [`exhibit DRB/1'] as being exclusive to '`Sheila Caffell' but that premise depends upon which of the blood group types can be attributed to her!
'Blood group type' A1', or 'blood goup type' A'?
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The study which I have carried out regarding the blood group type [`A1'] which was detected as being present on the outside and inside of a silencer, is capable of undermine the case that being at the time of the 1986 trial, the 2002 appeal and since, that 'one of the two silencers, had been fitted to the barrel end of the. 22 semi-automatic rifle that Sheila had used to commit suicide, then obviously ecause she eventually received two shots which entered into her neck, one shot not immediately fatal, but the second one was, that 'Sheila' could not ha be unscred that/the silencer, got to her feet and journey all the way downstairs to conceal it, inside a cupboard in a downstairs office, and then subsequently returned back upstairs to continue to lay down dead on the bedroom floor next to her parents...
I personally believe that there might have been two. 22 rifles which belonged either to the 'Bamber family' , or 'a relative' and that at least one of these two. 22 rifles, that a silencer
was attached to the end of its barrel. I believe that as a result of researching all the circumstances of this tragedy, that the rifle to which one of the silencers fitted onto the end of that guns barrel, that the. 22 rifle in question was a. 22 brno bolt action rifle, and that the silencer attached was a 1980 model of a Parker hale silencer own by 'Anthony Pargeter, which compromised of a metal outer casing, a metal screw thread end cap, a top metal washer, and had 17 internal baffle plates. This older model of this make of a Parker hale silencer, was a half inch longer in length, as compared to the later (designed) product which was on sale from the beginning of the 'November 1984' which had a lesser no. of internal baffle plates! I am as certain as I can be, that the 17 internalised baffle plated silencer belonged to 'Anthony Pargeter' and his. 22 bolt action brno rifle. This rifle was licensed to be used on the Whitehouse farm land for the purpose of vermin control and target shooting. His weapon and silencer was normally kept propped up behind the door, against the bathroom wall of the bathroom. On the other hand, the 'Bamber family' owned . 22 semi-atomatic rifle and the newer version [November 1984 production version] of the slightly smaller product was normally kept in a cupboard in a downstairs office Known to the family, as 'The Den'! I am sure, that the 17 baffled Parker hale silencer owned and belonging to 'Anthony Pargeter' was / is and had the original exhibit reference of 'SBJ/1' (lab item no. 22). This particular silencer was almost certainly seized by 'DS Jones' from the scene on the 7th August 1985, along with the taking from the same place as his silencer! This silencer [`SBJ/1'] lab' item no. 22, was eventually was relabled, 'exhibit reference' DRB/1 and assigned a lab item reference no. 23...
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This 'miscarriage of justice' is now taking on 'a new momentum'..
The criminal justice system criminals, have and are getting their backs against the wall! Our pursuit of true justice, will 'be relentless', this appellant, 'Jeremy Bamber' will 'get justice in relation to his position', its all 'going to be coming to ahead' !
Those that have benefitted financially and odd respectabity, are in for a shock!
The 'meek shall inherit the earth', and 'scumbag bully gentlemen' and 'women' will 'feel the full wrath' of 'dishonesty' and 'denial' through 'God'...
'Jeremy Bamber' was 'framed for the murder of his sister', and 'other members of his family', by virtue of the facts that (a) 'cops needed to cover up for mistakes' and 'the responsibility of their actions' which they 'performed disguised using the dishonest practice' of 'INFORMATIVES', and (b) 'greedy relatives' intent of 'getting their hands on the Bamber parents', and 'Mabel Speakmans', 'inheritances'!!!
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'Your days are numbered' either by the consequences of the forthcoming 'third world' (2nd Nuclear war alert) 'war confrontations'…
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'Your days are numbered' either by the consequences of the forthcoming 'third world' (2nd Nuclear war alert) 'war confrontations'…
Consider for one moment, 'the truth that you are choosing to ignore', victims' are victims', for a reason!
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I am now convinced 'that the blood of individual victims' was 'deposited into' and 'onto' the silencer', which 'affirms', as far as 'I am concerned', nearby 'Safe Havens' which 'are proveable'...
This victim, 'Jeremy Bamber' has been 'framed by police', 'relatives', 'experts' and 'the criminal justice system' - 'there is no such thing', as 'a fair trial'. 'It appears' to be, 'a matter' of 'which party is capable of telling the greater amount of truth' or 'lies'! Having 'more witnesses' to 'support the defence' or 'the prosecutions arguments', seems 'to count for a lot', irrespective of whether 'what is being spoken about', is 'true' or 'false'....
For 'the information of the general public', 'many prosecutions' of 'anybody', or 'everybody' depends upon 'how many witnesses support the case of each party'! But, and 'please be cautious', since, 'the police authorities', have 'a sly trick up their sleeves' - since, in 'almost every prosecution', or 'case', there 'will be at least two police officers', 'corroborating' what 'one or other', of the fact that 'a minimum of two police officers will', or 'might say', or 'mention in their concocted witness statements', or 'faked notebook entries'!
Of course, many other police officers will stick to the truth, as they know it, and as far as they are concerned, are telling the truth (to the best of their individual
Often,' senior', or 'other experienced police officers', 'make', 'edit' or 'redact the contents of other police officers', or witnesses statements' using 'words', 'phrases' and or 'paragraphs' which such a witness' has no input, other than the criminal who alters the narrative of the counts of these witness statements, con's, 'fools', and 'deceit which, that such a witness', or 'witnesses' into 'providing a signature' , as if 'to confirm' that what is 'being referred to', is 'their evidence', 'unifluenced' by 'anyone else', 'WHAT A COMPLETE LOAD OF GARBAGE'!!!!!!
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The study which I have carried out regarding the blood group type [`A1'] which was detected as being present on the outside and inside of a silencer, is capable of undermine the case that being at the time of the 1986 trial, the 2002 appeal and since, that 'one of the two silencers, had been fitted to the barrel end of the. 22 semi-automatic rifle that Sheila had used to commit suicide, then obviously ecause she eventually received two shots which entered into her neck, one shot not immediately fatal, but the second one was, that 'Sheila' could not ha be unscred that/the silencer, got to her feet and journey all the way downstairs to conceal it, inside a cupboard in a downstairs office, and then subsequently returned back upstairs to continue to lay down dead on the bedroom floor next to her parents...
I personally believe that there might have been two. 22 rifles which belonged either to the 'Bamber family' , or 'a relative' and that at least one of these two. 22 rifles, that a silencer
was attached to the end of its barrel. I believe that as a result of researching all the circumstances of this tragedy, that the rifle to which one of the silencers fitted onto the end of that guns barrel, that the. 22 rifle in question was a. 22 brno bolt action rifle, and that the silencer attached was a 1980 model of a Parker hale silencer own by 'Anthony Pargeter, which compromised of a metal outer casing, a metal screw thread end cap, a top metal washer, and had 17 internal baffle plates. This older model of this make of a Parker hale silencer, was a half inch longer in length, as compared to the later (designed) product which was on sale from the beginning of the 'November 1984' which had a lesser no. of internal baffle plates! I am as certain as I can be, that the 17 internalised baffle plated silencer belonged to 'Anthony Pargeter' and his. 22 bolt action brno rifle. This rifle was licensed to be used on the Whitehouse farm land for the purpose of vermin control and target shooting. His weapon and silencer was normally kept propped up behind the door, against the bathroom wall of the bathroom. On the other hand, the 'Bamber family' owned . 22 semi-atomatic rifle and the newer version [November 1984 production version] of the slightly smaller product was normally kept in a cupboard in a downstairs office Known to the family, as 'The Den'! I am sure, that the 17 baffled Parker hale silencer owned and belonging to 'Anthony Pargeter' was / is and had the original exhibit reference of 'SBJ/1' (lab item no. 22). This particular silencer was almost certainly seized by 'DS Jones' from the scene on the 7th August 1985, along with the taking from the same place as his silencer! This silencer [`SBJ/1'] lab' item no. 22, was eventually was relabled, 'exhibit reference' DRB/1 and assigned a lab item reference no. 23...
Are you saying that they found the Pargeter silencer on the 7th.?
If so, how does that change the evidence?
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most of the blood found on 'SHEILA CAFFELLS' light blue 'nightdress' did not originate from herself,
as established by the testing of several blood group samples, as verified by the following results carried out at 'Huntingdon forensic Lab' on blood samples taken from 'Sheila Caffells' - nightdress (exhibit reference,'ND/3'), 'lab item no. 19'..
These blood group results, suggest very strongly, that blood from two (type 'A') or more (type 'O') of the other four victims contaminated the silencer when 'Shela shot them'..
This is a significant piece of research - 'Sheila' was not blood type 'O', and elsewhere her blood group type is recorded as blood type 'A1' making it possible that the samples that were tested from her nightdress originated from somebody totally different quite possibly other victims of the shooting tragedy!
(1) Stain 1 301 blood type 'A'
(2) Stain 2 [sample `JF192'] 003 blood type 'O'
(3) Stain 2 [sample ' BB9'] 003 blood type 'O'
(4) Stain 2 [sample ' BB12'] 2+03 blood type 'A'
(5) Stain 2 [sample 'BB16'] 2+02 blood type 'A'
(6) Stain 2 [sample 'BB20'] 003 blood type 'O'
(7) Stain 2 [sample 'BB21'] 002+ blood type 'O'
(8) Stain 2 [sample 'BB25'] 003 blood type 'O'
No. of Calibrated Subject Donators [in sample batch] linked to exhibit 'ND/3' [Lab' item no. 19] 'Sheila Caffells' - bloodstained light blue coloured nightdress (as above, data)
'PERSON' [one]
(1) Stain 1 301 blood type 'A'
'PERSON' [two]
(2) Stain 2 [sample `JF192'] 003 blood type 'O'
(3) Stain 2 [sample ' BB9'] 003 blood type 'O'
(6) Stain 2 [sample 'BB20'] 003 blood type 'O'
(8) Stain 2 [sample 'BB25'] 003 blood type 'O'
'PERSON' [three]
(7) Stain 2 [sample 'BB21'] 002+ blood type 'O'
'PERSON' [four]
(4) Stain 2 [sample ' BB12'] 2+03 blood type 'A'
'PERSON' [five]
(5) Stain 2 [sample 'BB16'] 2+02 blood type 'A'
The nightdress ['ND/3', lab' item no. 19, worn by 'SHEILA Caffell' has/had/got 'five different sources of human blood upon it'] The results of this research profoundly impacts, and seriously undermines, the safety of the convictions and sentence(s) for five murders attributable to, or against 'Jeremy Bamber'..
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(a) 'Ralph Bamber' blood group type 'A1' [!!!] 22/09/86
'Ralph Bamber' blood group type 'O'[!!!!] 18/10/85
(b) 'Peter Eaton' blood group type 'O' [date taken - 20/09/86, date received at lab' - 22/09/86]
(c) 'Robert Woodwis Boutflour' blood group type 'A1' [date taken - 20/09/86, date received at lab'22/09/86]
(d) 'Sheila Caffell' blood group type 'A1' [!!!!] [date taken - 07/08/85, date received at lab'- 12/08/85]
(e) 'Sheila Caffell blood group type 'A' [!!!!] 18/10/85 [ dealt with at lab' - by John Hayward]
(f) 'June Bamber' blood group type 'A'
(g) 'Nicholas Caffell' blood group type 'O'
(h) 'Daniel Caffell' blood group type 'O'
(I) 'Jeremy Bamber' blood group type 'A'
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Are you saying that they found the Pargeter silencer on the 7th.?
If so, how does that change the evidence?
I know with 100% certainty, that 'DS Jones returned to the farmhouse and took possession of' Anthony Pargeters 17 baffled Parker hale silence which he found in the downstairs bathroom toilet [where 'Pargeter' always stored his weapons, gun accessories, and various type of calibre. 22 rim fire ammunition! 'DS Jones' returned to the farmhouse after he was told about his rifle had a silencer which could be fitted to his. 22 rifle. Upon learning about the 'Bamber silencer', 'DS Jones' left Jeremy's cottage and left 'DC Clark' to continue taking 'Jeremy Bamber witness statement [`7th August 1985']. Upon arriving back at the scene, 'DS Jones' went looking for the silencer belonging to the 'Bamber owned. 22 rifle. He searched in the kitchen, the hallway, and the downstairs bathroom/toilet, where he saw a collection of guns, rifles and a shotgun. He saw a silencer fitted to the end of a. 22 calibre rifle and he took possession of the rifle and the silencer which was attached to it. He did this after taking a photograph showing the silencer and rifle positioned inside the downstairs bathroom, he assigned the exhibit reference 'SBJ/1' to the silencer, and 'SBJ/2' to the photograph that he had just taken there' He then returned to the kitchen and took possession of a further two exhibits, one of which was a calender that had been hanging on the front fascia of the kitchen aga in the region of the surrounds left hand leg, he also took another photograph in the kitchen, which were assigned exhibit references, 'SBJ/3' and 'SBJ/4' respectively. He then left the crime scene and returned to 'Jeremy Bamber' cottage at 9 head Street, where 'DC Clark' was still busy taking 'Jeremys' first witness statement. Soon after he returned there, 'Ann Eaton and other relatives, and' Julie Mugford' arrived too.
'Ann Eaton' overheard 'DS Jones', 'Jeremy' and 'DC Clark discussing where' Jeremy' had left his rifle during the previous evening. This is all true - 'Ann Eaton' was aware on the 7th August 1985, that there was talk of a silencer belonging to a. 22 rifle, that belonged to the 'Bamber Family!' DS Jones' wrongly believed that he himself had returned to the farmhouse and the he had seized the silencer belonging to the 'Bamber Owned' silencer [`SBJ/1'] when he hadn't, because of ignorance he had taken possession of the 'Anthony Pargeters' silencer ' [`SBJ/1'] from the downstairs bathroom location. By that stage, 'DS Jones' was not aware that two different silencers were kept at the farmhouse [`the Bamber owned' silencer [`which subsequently became exhibit 'DB/1'] was stored in a cupboard of the downstairs office.The mix up was not realized until the 12th August 1985, when 'Robert Woodwis Boutflour' contacted Essex police by phone to inform them that his son,' David Boutflour' had recovered a silencer which belonged to the 'Bamber owned' rifle which had been found in the gun cupboard of the downstairs office!
This is what has caused the police, relatives and lab' experts, to introduce a false narrative, in which both silencers were eventually merged into the same one. It took until September 1986, for prosecution witnesses to end up singing from the same hymn sheet where they all maintained that there had only ever been one silencer found, and that silencer had been found by 'David Boutflour' at the scene, on 'Saturday the 10th August 1985, that it was taken to' Huntingdon forensic Lab' by 'Di Cook' to be examined by expert 'Glyniss Howard' on the '13th August 1985', handed back to 'DI Cook' on the same date, and that this silencer was subsequently fingerprint by the technique of 'oblique light test method, on the '15th August 1985', then fingerprinted again by 'the technique' of 'cynoacrylate fume method', [again by 'DI Cook'] carried out by him on the '23rd of August 1985', and that 'on' or 'around' the '29th August 1985' that 'DI Cook' [himself] had taken it upon himself `to dismantle that silencer' and in particular, to 'do a check on the internal baffle plates', 'within it'. 'DI Cook' took 'a series of photographs', at 'every stage of the dismantling exercise' for 'the purpose of confirming if any blood group type evidence' ['I]' was present therein'. On the following day (30th August 1985) 'DI Cook' submitted the reconstructed the dismantled silencer, to 'Huntingdon forensic Science Services' for oexamination'. 'Cook' did this, without him confirming that there was neither 'a small dried flake of blood' trapped between the '1st' and '2nd' internal 'baffle plates' paving the way for some unknown forensic service expert to be the first independent witness to notice blood on baffle plates. Please, understand, that 'if' there had been a small loose dried flake' of 'blood', anywhere 'between all combinations of all the collective baffle plates' which 'first raises' and which 'falls neatly' into such 'a loose type of a small flake of blood, that somewhat miraculously, never did get treated seriously, and ended up without being allocated an exhibit reference to it [in its small flake format] or even once the said flake was transformed into a solution'.
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I know with 100% certainty, that 'DS Jones returned to the farmhouse and took possession of' Anthony Pargeters 17 baffled Parker hale silence which he found in the downstairs bathroom toilet [where 'Pargeter' always stored his weapons, gun accessories, and various type of calibre. 22 rim fire ammunition! 'DS Jones' returned to the farmhouse after he was told about his rifle had a silencer which could be fitted to his. 22 rifle. Upon learning about the 'Bamber silencer', 'DS Jones' left Jeremy's cottage and left 'DC Clark' to continue taking 'Jeremy Bamber witness statement [`7th August 1985']. Upon arriving back at the scene, 'DS Jones' went looking for the silencer belonging to the 'Bamber owned. 22 rifle. He searched in the kitchen, the hallway, and the downstairs bathroom/toilet, where he saw a collection of guns, rifles and a shotgun. He saw a silencer fitted to the end of a. 22 calibre rifle and he took possession of the rifle and the silencer which was attached to it. He did this after taking a photograph showing the silencer and rifle positioned inside the downstairs bathroom, he assigned the exhibit reference 'SBJ/1' to the silencer, and 'SBJ/2' to the photograph that he had just taken there' He then returned to the kitchen and took possession of a further two exhibits, one of which was a calender that had been hanging on the front fascia of the kitchen aga in the region of the surrounds left hand leg, he also took another photograph in the kitchen, which were assigned exhibit references, 'SBJ/3' and 'SBJ/4' respectively. He then left the crime scene and returned to 'Jeremy Bamber' cottage at 9 head Street, where 'DC Clark' was still busy taking 'Jeremys' first witness statement. Soon after he returned there, 'Ann Eaton and other relatives, and' Julie Mugford' arrived too.
'Ann Eaton' overheard 'DS Jones', 'Jeremy' and 'DC Clark discussing where' Jeremy' had left his rifle during the previous evening. This is all true - 'Ann Eaton' was aware on the 7th August 1985, that there was talk of a silencer belonging to a. 22 rifle, that belonged to the 'Bamber Family!' DS Jones' wrongly believed that he himself had returned to the farmhouse and the he had seized the silencer belonging to the 'Bamber Owned' silencer [`SBJ/1'] when he hadn't, because of ignorance he had taken possession of the 'Anthony Pargeters' silencer ' [`SBJ/1'] from the downstairs bathroom location. By that stage, 'DS Jones' was not aware that two different silencers were kept at the farmhouse [`the Bamber owned' silencer](which subsequently became exhibit 'DB/1') was stored in a cupboard of the downstairs office.This 'mix up' was 'not realized until the 12th August 1985', when 'Robert Woodwis Boutflour' contacted Essex police [`Di Miller'] by phone to inform him, that his son,' David Boutflour' had 'recovered a silencer' which 'belonged' to the 'Bamber owned' rifle which 'had been found in the gun cupboard' in 'the downstairs office'!
This is what 'has caused the police', 'relatives' and lab' experts, to 'introduce a false narrative', in which 'both silencers were eventually merged into the same one'!
But this doesn't change the evidence, does it. [`Yes' - of course 'it would have', and 'does'..
Although she was being flippant, in a sense what the CPS counsel Darlow said at the 2020 judicial review has a kernel of truth to it: there could have been 40 silencers found, it doesn't necessarily change things evidential [`Yes' it would 'have' and 'it does make a huge difference'.. because 'the silencer they found in the gun cupboard' is the 'incriminating article'. Only one of the two silencers was recovered from the gun cupboard on '10th August 1985', the other silencer was recovered from inside the downstairs Bathroom, on the '7th August 1985', seized by 'DS Jones']
Are you actually saying that the forensic evidence officially found on and in the silencer - paint, grey hair, scratch and blood - was commingled between at least two silencers? ['Yes']Thus, for instance, you could have paint found on one [`Yes'] and blood found on another [`No', 'Human' and 'animal blood' in 'one', but 'just animal blood' in 'the other' thus since they could not explain this or fit it into a coherent case theory, they just merged the two exhibits.[`Yes']
If that is what you are saying, or something along those lines, who do you think knew about this? I assume Stan Jones? [`of course, he was'] The family? [`Yes`] Glynis Howard?[`She was compliant'] Malcolm Fletcher?[`Yes, most definately'] Bob Miller?[`yes, with certainty'] Ron Cook?[`He' and 'Di Miller'/'DS Jones'/and all the others involved in restaging various crime scenes within the farmhouse Aiiiiinnnnnsley [say it with a Lancashire accent]? John Hayward?[`YES'] I assume Taff Jones was not party to this? [`DCI Jones' knew 'what had occurred'. 'He' knew 'the true circumstances', surrounding the 'various places inside the farmhouse', that 'Sheila Caffells body was found at different times during the police operation at the scene (7.35am until 10.00am'] but 'He was against framing an innocent person' who had `no longer` any `close family left']
Was it just the two silencers,[`two prime exhibits', used 'during the 1986 trial'],will or might a silencer belonging to the relatives have come into play? 'At least two sound moderators' were 'collected from relatives' by 'a police motor cycle outrider', on 'the first morning of the trial', 'one of which was one silencer returned to them in' September 1986' in particular, exhibit reference 'DB/1' (lab' item no. 23) this being 'the silencer', which 'David Boutflour' took possession of [`it'] from inside a cupboard in the downstairs office, on 'Saturday' the '10th August 1985']...
Is it possible the relatives swopped Nevill's Parker-Hale silencer for one of their own, [`what actually took place' was that the relatives (the 'Boutflours', 'Eatons' and 'Anthony Pargeter'] knew that 'DS Jones' had 'returned to the scene' and `took possession of the 17 baffled Parker hale silencer`, in the belief that 'it' was the silencer to which 'Jeremy Bamber' had already `alluded to owning`, beforehand]. BUT, the silencer [`SBJ1'] that 'DS Jones' had taken possession of at the scene on the '7th August 1985' actually belonged to one of 'Anthony Pargeters'. 22 'rifles'] - [`of an identical model], (but perhaps with a slightly varied specification)? [`the silencer' belonging to 'Anthony Pargeter' was 'a Parker Hale product'! Which 'he had purchased' in '1980'. At that/this time, ' these /those silencers', of 'the type owned' and 'belonging' to 'Pargeter' was '7 inches in length' , with an 'internal design feature', totalling of '17 internalised metal baffle plates'. For your 'information', there were 'significant differences' between 'certain specifications' of 'a Parker hale silencer', that was 'manufactured during the 1980 production run' and which differed, 'one from the other' and 'vice versa', by 'virtue of the facts', which are that `in the manufacture' of 'a newer version of their silencers' the 'external' and 'internal features' and 'specification' [`November 1984'] 'had been drastically reduced' were at odds to one another!
A pet theory of mine, from a pro-guilt point-of-view, is that Jeremy took the silencer with him and disposed of it and the silencer 'found' in the gun cupboard is one of the relatives. [`No'] They counted on the real silencer not turning up.[`On the contrary' the 'real silencer, that was attached to one of the. 22 type rifles used during and throughout the shooting, episodes.. Any thoughts on that? [`relatives', 'cops', and 'Lab' experts' did not fully appreciate the differences in specifications between one or the other of both silencers until the 30th August 1985, when cops took the decision to forward the silencer [`DB/1'] to the Lab' at Huntingdon inside which blood group activity would later surface establishing that 'Sheila' had been shot and killed by a. 22 type rifle fitted with a silencer belonging to, the 'Bamber owned. 22 semi-automatic rifle..
Another thing. Assuming you are right about all this factually, is it possible that an innocent interpretation could be put on it? For instance, might it be possible that this was in fact a two-gun massacre, with two silencers, and whoat you are actually describing is the recovery of both silencers? I have previously made it known that I think that there was more than one firearm and silencer used in the incident I say this is an innocent interpretation, but it can't be entirely because it would mean the police and FSS have merged two exhibits into one [`Along these/those lines', correct] and thus misled the court and perverted the course of justice in a very serious way. [`YES']
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But this doesn't change the evidence, does it.
Although she was being flippant, in a sense what the CPS counsel Darlow said at the 2020 judicial review has a kernel of truth to it: there could have been 40 silencers found, it doesn't necessarily change things evidentially because the silencer they found in the gun cupboard is the incriminating article.
Are you actually saying that the forensic evidence officially found on and in the silencer - paint, grey hair, scratch and blood - was commingled between at least two silencers? Thus, for instance, you could have paint found on one and blood found on another, and thus since they could not explain this or fit it into a coherent case theory, they just merged the two exhibits.
If that is what you are saying, or something along those lines, who do you think knew about this? I assume Stan Jones? The family? Glynis Howard? Malcolm Fletcher? Bob Miller? Ron Cook? Aiiiiinnnnnsley [say it with a Lancashire accent]? John Hayward? I assume Taff Jones was not party to this?
Was it just the two silencers, or might a silencer belonging to the relatives have come into play?
Is it possible the relatives swopped Nevill's Parker-Hale silencer for one of their own, of an identical model (but perhaps with a slightly varied specification)?
A pet theory of mine, from a pro-guilt point-of-view, is that Jeremy took the silencer with him and disposed of it and the silencer 'found' in the gun cupboard is one of the relatives. They counted on the real silencer not turning up. Any thoughts on that?
Another thing. Assuming you are right about all this factually, is it possible that an innocent interpretation could be put on it? For instance, might it be possible that this was in fact a two-gun massacre, with two silencers, and what you are actually describing is the recovery of both silencers? I say this is an innocent interpretation, but it can't be entirely because it would mean the police and FSS have merged two exhibits into one, and thus misled the court and perverted the course of justice in a very serious way.
What a shame you ruined an otherwise intelligent post. You just can't help yourself, can you?
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What a shame you ruined an otherwise intelligent post. You just can't help yourself, can you?
Oh goodness me, just get a life, you sad man. Honestly, just find something constructive to do with your time and leave people alone.