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OTHER HIGH PROFILE CASES => Other cases => Topic started by: clifford on June 25, 2011, 08:15:PM

Title: Michael Stone
Post by: clifford on June 25, 2011, 08:15:PM
The only thing that convicted this man was from a convicted felon, who spoke to Stone through a gap in the radiator. Now the murderder of Millie has been connected to the Megan, and her Mums murder.
Is this another miscarriage of Justice.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on June 27, 2011, 06:53:PM
belefield fits eyewitness description much beter than Micheal does he also drove a the right car as were disiscribed by the other witness.
the car described was a red fieasta.

michel stone drove a white toyata was 5 inches shorter than eye witnes discription.

he is also bald as an egg were as the killer was supposed to have spikey hair

Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: shonapugs on June 29, 2011, 09:55:PM
It would appear that Bellfield now has an alibi for the Russell murders. But I have always doubted Michael Stone's conviction.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on June 30, 2011, 11:38:AM
i doubt if he really has well an unshakable albi anyway.

i a simple dna test would prove it one way or the other.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: jon on June 30, 2011, 08:52:PM
It would appear that Bellfield now has an alibi for the Russell murders. But I have always doubted Michael Stone's conviction.
Where did you read that ?
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on June 30, 2011, 09:40:PM
ive been searching round all over the place and i cant find anything about an albi.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: clifford on June 30, 2011, 10:29:PM
I am happy that you level headed members of this forum have started to discuss this case.
I truly believe that stone was as stiched up as was JB.
It must be so difficult for someone to change a one minded judge, who can influence a jury.
This is a case where there was no forensic evidence against stone, just a desire to close the case.
By all accounts Stone was a undesirable, but should he be in jail for a crime he did not commit.
The comparables with JB are there for all to see, the need for the police to secure a conviction no matter who.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: shonapugs on June 30, 2011, 10:44:PM
It might have been at the weekend, I read that one of Bellfield's girlfriends had come forward and said that, much as she'd like to shop him for the Russell murders, she could remember that he was with her that day.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: shonapugs on June 30, 2011, 10:48:PM
I remember at the time of the case, Michael Stone hardly seemed to know what day it was. I think that this truly was a MOJ. Does his sister still fight on his behalf?

It's probably best if Idon't comment on JB!!
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on June 30, 2011, 11:17:PM
yes shes still fighting.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: shonapugs on June 30, 2011, 11:25:PM
I think it's as cliff says, lazy plod work tidying up a very high-profile case. Any images of Michael Stone that I've seen show a very confused, ill, frightened man.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on June 30, 2011, 11:44:PM
It might have been at the weekend, I read that one of Bellfield's girlfriends had come forward and said that, much as she'd like to shop him for the Russell murders, she could remember that he was with her that day.

if you find it again can you post it here please shonna.
because ive been looking all over the place for it
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on June 30, 2011, 11:47:PM
I remember at the time of the case, Michael Stone hardly seemed to know what day it was. I think that this truly was a MOJ. Does his sister still fight on his behalf?

It's probably best if Idon't comment on JB!!

he was in total shock he couldent even believe hed been accused of such a thing let alone put on trail for it.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: shonapugs on June 30, 2011, 11:55:PM
I'll have a look, nugs - if it was on Saturday, it would have been the Daily Mail (sorry!). If it was on Sunday, it would have been in the Mail on Sunday, the News of the World, or the Sunday Times. I am certain that I did read it, but I can't remember which one of his exes it was that said it. One of them was on This Morning, this morning, the one who had 4 of his children. Bellfield truly is a beast. I hope that he gets crucified in prison.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: shonapugs on June 30, 2011, 11:56:PM
Sorry, cliff, that probably doesn't sound too level-headed!
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on July 12, 2011, 05:07:PM
here is his site.

http://www.michaelstone.co.uk/
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: grahameb on July 12, 2011, 07:44:PM
It would appear that Bellfield now has an alibi for the Russell murders. But I have always doubted Michael Stone's conviction.
Same here.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: shonapugs on July 12, 2011, 10:36:PM
It's sad, isn't it Grahame, that Michael Stone doesn't seem to have the same high, sympathetic profile as JB? He needs a Jackie. He doesn't even have a smiffy.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on July 12, 2011, 10:51:PM
hes got andrew baron though i don't know weather that's good or bad.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: shonapugs on July 12, 2011, 11:13:PM
I'm guessing bad. The case seems to have been laid to rest.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: clifford on July 14, 2011, 06:42:PM
I'm guessing bad. The case seems to have been laid to rest.
I think you are right Pugsy, but once we have got JB released we should switch our attention.
There is no doubt in my mind  M Stone is not guilty. Trouble is no one is fighting his corner.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on July 15, 2011, 11:24:AM
interestingly enough the guy who michael stone was supposed to have confessed to had a gbh charge dropped against him after he agreed to testify.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: grahameb on July 15, 2011, 11:27:AM
interestingly enough the guy who michael stone was supposed to have confessed to had a gbh charge dropped against him after he agreed to testify.
For the police to make bargains with crooks makes them to be crooks also.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: OnceSaid on July 15, 2011, 11:34:AM
I'm guessing bad. The case seems to have been laid to rest.
I think you are right Pugsy, but once we have got JB released we should switch our attention.
There is no doubt in my mind  M Stone is not guilty. Trouble is no one is fighting his corner.

Unfortunately this is the case for many miscarriage of justice victims.  As much as they protest their innocence in the inside there is no voice for the majority of them on the outside to research, discuss and highlight their case and get the facts out into the public domain which would get the publics attention, and hopefully muster some support.  Apparently those M S shares his life with in prison (guilty prisoners) all believe in his innocence, which says a lot to me.

Supporting miscarriage of justice individuals/cases can be a lonely and frustrating life, we are defintitely in the minority,  but it is heartwarming that people who have an interest in justice/injustice, give their time and effort to support them in some way. I would hazzard a guess that most families who find themselves in a position where a family member/friend has been wrongly accused/convicted wouldnt have a clue as to where to start fighting their (loved ones) corner.  The internet for those that have access, will show they are not alone and that there are many moj victims/families in the same position. My advice would be to make contact with these people and build up a circle of friends who have been affected themselves and also likeminded people who have knowledge as to how miscarriages of justice can and do happen, support one another. The emotional support you recieve from others will give you the strength to get up in the morning and instead of the usual thinking of how the hell did that happen (conviction) start thinking, what can I do to right this wrong, and those already involved with moj will be able to give you advice and information to help you along the way.   Its a big commitment, but if you believe in the persons innocence/justice/injustice this will be what keeps you going. Sorry Cliff, Im not directing this post at you, just my thoughts about some people not having much support.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: shonapugs on July 15, 2011, 09:47:PM
I'm guessing bad. The case seems to have been laid to rest.
I think you are right Pugsy, but once we have got JB released we should switch our attention.
There is no doubt in my mind  M Stone is not guilty. Trouble is no one is fighting his corner.

I'd be up for it, Cliff. It would be good to be on the same side, for once!
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on July 16, 2011, 03:51:PM
another interesting thing about this case is that damien Daley the cellmate stone is supposed to have confessed to is alleged to have confessed to another cellmate that he made the whole thing up at the court of appeal this  was dismissed on the grounds that they only had the other cellmates word that Daley had ever said this ironic or what.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on October 27, 2011, 10:31:PM
it also says about that even the victems said he could be crtan of stones guilt though he stoped short of saying he was innocent.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on February 18, 2012, 09:24:PM
I'll have a look, nugs - if it was on Saturday, it would have been the Daily Mail (sorry!). If it was on Sunday, it would have been in the Mail on Sunday, the News of the World, or the Sunday Times. I am certain that I did read it, but I can't remember which one of his exes it was that said it. One of them was on This Morning, this morning, the one who had 4 of his children. Bellfield truly is a beast. I hope that he gets crucified in prison.

its funny ive looked all over mail and this articall does not seem to exist.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: JackiePreece on February 18, 2012, 09:37:PM
Looks like he needs someone fighting on his behalf
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on February 18, 2012, 09:47:PM
yes he does.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: JackiePreece on February 18, 2012, 10:06:PM
its a shame if i did something on this case i reckon if shona was still on here she would have helped me
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on February 18, 2012, 10:32:PM
well he has his sisters support and support from andrew baron but yes i think he could do with all the help he could get.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: lonny on March 06, 2012, 03:22:PM
The only thing that convicted this man was from a convicted felon, who spoke to Stone through a gap in the radiator. Now the murderder of Millie has been connected to the Megan, and her Mums murder.
Is this another miscarriage of Justice.

I'm convinced he's innocent, absolutely no evidence against part from a confession to a self confessed liar. I can't see him ever being released though.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on March 06, 2012, 04:25:PM
unless something is done i cant ethere.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: wichfinder on March 07, 2012, 07:37:PM
oh hes guilty.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: nugnug on March 08, 2012, 12:03:AM
i hope they never call you for jury service.
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: Newbury1 on March 08, 2012, 09:29:AM
i hope they never call you for jury service.

Except where they are obviously guilty!  ;D
Title: Re: Michael Stone
Post by: Hartley on March 08, 2012, 09:30:AM
Except where they are obviously guilty!  ;D

Yes, in that scenario they would be a perfect choice.  ;D